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Srell-Meister
03-25-2004, 05:41 PM
I know regen = faster hp gain = more mana for us, but what I'm wondering is should I go for as much regen as possible right now? Hopefully soon I'll have the help of my friend and his friends (65 druid, 65 2 tanks, 65 sham, his old explicit friends =\ ) and we'll be doing LDoNs and I noticed there's quite a few fun regen items.. being an iksar I would like to get as much regen as possible, but is it really necessary? I will be doing solo/duo quite a bit so should I get as much as possible?

Omnius
03-25-2004, 05:51 PM
You can regen all you want, but it won't make your mana bar go up faster. My advice is to first raise your mana regeneration and get affliction efficiency, affliction haste, and burning affliction. If my health bar slips during an adventure, all I have to do is cast a mana-efficient lifetap dot instead of a regular dot.

Kompressor
03-25-2004, 06:07 PM
interesting, mana regen > hp regen ??? THat seems counterproductive.. meaning, hp regen = mana regen in a sense wouldnt it? Of course, u should work on regen, and all focuses.. mana regen comes with a simple cast of a spell. unfortunately we dont have a hp regen buff.. Hp regen counteracts the lich of the spell, so in the long run, any mana regen item will not matter as much as a hp regen item will, as the spell itself will give u enough mana to do anything u want.

Jebasiz
03-25-2004, 07:00 PM
I've never died simply because I was OOM, but sure enough every single time I run out of hps...I'm dead.

Saryrn's Kiss = 200dmg/tick 650m

Horror= 435 dmg/tick 470m

all I have to do is cast a mana-efficient lifetap dot instead of a regular dot

You and I have different opinions of efficiency....Get regen plsthx

Srell-Meister
03-25-2004, 07:04 PM
Yeah I figured I should get all my focus', that seemed like a given. What I was mainly after was if it's necessary for duo/solo to have maximum regen. I know any regen is good regen, but should I go after as many regen augs and regen items I can? I keep thinking I'm answering my own questions, but I guess it just comes down to this: In duo/solo/etc., should I have maximum regen, or is it going to matter as much with mob hits and whatnot.

I know it's not going to make me get mana faster, but it would help me keep my HP from dropping as fast, cutting down on the downtime.

Another thing, if I have a regen2 aug and a ft2 aug, which would be more prefered?

Edit:
And I agree with Jeb, Duration Taps aren't exactly efficient..

Omnius
03-25-2004, 07:36 PM
You and I have different opinions of efficiency....Get regen plsthx

You and I also have different abilities to get regen equipment. At my level, the best I can hunt for is +1 here and there. Demi-Lich is 48 hp per tick. You know how much plat I'd have to shell out to get enough regen to even NOTICE a difference? I do quite well with 0 worn/clicked regen.

Edit: The DPM is a little closer at my level.
EB is 146 / tick, 7 ticks, 320 mana
BoD is 80 / tick, 9 ticks, 360 mana.

I can't even con people into doing EF adventures, so I won't be getting Horror anytime soon. Even when I do get BoT, FPoK, Horror, and SK, hp regen gear will still be hard as shit to get. What's the answer? Regen augs in items that become obsolete in short order?

Tsulle
03-25-2004, 09:59 PM
I can't even con people into doing EF adventures, so I won't be getting Horror anytime soon.

Hmm... the 760 pt plate armor is there. Don't know about your server, but on my server... mid 50s clerics, tanks and bards are trying to get pts there... don't be afraid to start groups....

Kompressor
03-25-2004, 11:07 PM
At my level, the best I can hunt for is +1 here and there. Demi-Lich is 48 hp per tick.

heheh, 1+2=3 usually, gotta start somewhere.. it all adds up.

AnimocityStromm
03-27-2004, 03:31 PM
Saryrn's Kiss = 200dmg/tick 650m

Horror= 435 dmg/tick 470m

That's a bit misleading AND inaccurate. SK is only 550mana, is Alteration which is most likely primary specialization, and is double the ticks of Horror. Not to mention SK likely won't be resisted whereas if you factor in Horror's resist rate it's efficiency drops measurably.

Gruzzen
03-27-2004, 08:46 PM
You can get lotsa of regen in very short order at 55.

Zlandicar's Heart +5 Regen (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4778)
Fleshweavers Mark +1 Regen (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=19665)
Signet of Grisk +1 Regen (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=19651)
Shield of Costal Purity +3 Regen (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=26238)
Robe of Abrogation +2 Regen (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=22517)

Those are all doable at 55. That alone is 12 regen per tick. Congrats, you just dropped Demi -Lich to decrease just 6 more Hps then Lich. Spend some cash on the Potion.



Still need more Regen? at your level? go buy 10 Dose Potion of Soluan's Vigor + 1 to 14 hps per tick (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=25731)


and that's assuming that you don't have the magic 1750 in Trade skills. Lots more there.

Gruzzen

Omnius
03-28-2004, 04:24 AM
Z-heart is 40k on my server, and the shield isn't exactly soloable. Therefore, I cannot obtain these at the moment.

Jebasiz
03-28-2004, 04:58 AM
Alright, animocity...I type in the dark alot after my roomates goto sleep... saryrn's kiss is 10x 200, horror is 5 x 430..., which means what your fighting dies faster so you don't have to re-apply other dots or your recasting horror again and having a very significant dot on your target again. I'd rather cast horror and chance a resist, then SK...if I don't need the hps. SK preceeding lifeburn is a beautifull thing, but...using it for dps or excessively to heal yourself is a great way to create downtime for yourself. 80 more mana to do less dmg in twice the time...

Gruzzen
03-28-2004, 05:52 AM
Shield of Coastal Purity Walkthough by 55 necro (http://www.necrotalk.com/index.php?showtopic=916)

Solo Hunting in Natimbi - by drekati (http://www.necrotalk.com/index.php?showtopic=908)

There ya go. A walkthrough for the shield of Coastal Purity by a 55 necro. Your sig says your 55, so you should be able to do this.


Gruzzen

Omnius
03-28-2004, 01:12 PM
I will try this since boats to Abysmal have been completely borked since the DX9 update. Translocators plz.

drewz21
03-29-2004, 08:46 PM
Ok, I'm BIG on HP regen as you can see if you click on my magelo. Granted my necro was twinked out in the beginning but all but my hand piece are pretty easy to do or buy in the Bazaar.

Paid 50K for the stupid handwraps but I love them!


All of my prices are on Veeshan, your prices may vary.

The Z-heart on my server I see fairly often for under 30K and have seen it as low as 24K. Still may be pricey.

Robe of Abrogation. Just helped a guildmate last night with a 300pp loan to buy one for 3500pp. The guy selling them had 6 for sale. Very common item now.

Wurm-Eaten Skull Charm neck piece. I've seen several last week always starting at 10K and going for about 3-5K after being up for a few days.

Frost cloak back piece. Have been a couple this last week from 10K to 12K.

Belt waist piece. Those have been going in the mid to high teens lately. Most expensive one I've seen has been 21K.

The Coastal shield. Easily soloable by 55. It takes patience and it isn't as easy to aggro-kite underwater but if you pull the sirens to the ledge underwater, I believe it's loc -1900, 770 or thereabouts, nothing wanders by there. I just swam out into the water hitting F8 until I targeted something. Also keep DMF up all the time, didn't even use an EB item. Then pulled it back to the ledge and aggro kited it until dead. The Siren parts are VERY rare drops and it took me several nights of hunting to get them all.

I started at 54 and by 55 I had regen 3.

I also run some regen tribute. Depending on how much you have to spare, I NEVER donate plat I just look for items that give me more tribute than what they sell for in the bazaar, you can run up to regen 4 and that gives you 8 more points of regen.

Also donating for a POT9 in PoK helps too with both mana and hp regen.

In Demi-lich form, I'm losing about 5hp per tick. I keep deflux memmed, cause it's cheap in mana and fast to cast, and hit a mob when I'm somewhere below 90% health.

Mana for me is never a problem. And if I'm lucky enough to group with a regen casting class...well all the better.

Good hunting.
Jos.