Best Kiteing 81 to 85

[Bonestripper]

Just wanted some other peoples opinions on some of the better places for kiteing from 81 to 85 and at what levels to go there, Recently at 80 Ive been doing my AA exp in either FM up in the top right corner, or in beza instance. Ive just returned from a 5 ish month break, stoped playing right before SoD was released and I just got SoD a few days ago. Did a few new crucial SoD aa i was able to get at level 80, but now its time for me to level up. I dont know any good kite spots in SoD or when I should go there. I plan to grind hard to get from 81 to 85 here in the next week or so. Just wanted some other peoples advice on where I should kite and when I should go there. I have little over 21k mana and 1700aa if that helps determine the places I should kite. I had been thinking about FM or Beza until 83 then maby moving on somewhere else. Any advice or Tips on where you leveld up would be much appceriated, Thanks in advance!

[Ultulus]

gators.

[Bonestripper]

Gators in LP? Till what level? Maby till like 83 ish? where about after that? theres gotta be a better camp around 83/84 isnt there? I just got sick of kiteing gators lol

[Drazzminius]

Prolly till 85+.

[Bonestripper]

Id imagion thier has to be a better exp spot in gators fomr 83-85. Also I play on the zek server, so a zone like lopain plains gets a fair mount o traffick and pvp sometimes, lookin for a little bit of a more remote zone, where i mite note have to worry about pvp as much and possibly farm some SoD necro spells.

[scrat]

Unless you are simply in a mad rush to 85 - I'd highly recommend doing progression tasks & aug collection tasks and let XP be a by-product. I'd imagine by the time you finished OGH/Kith augs & progressions you'd be 83 minimum. Additionally, you'll be wanting some factions to purchase rk2 spells and eventually type-3 augs and chest emblems. And if you then get your FoS and Warrens progression tasks done I'd be very surprised if you weren't 85. Very surprised, unless you got a guild basically taskadding you one after the other with no soloing on the side between tasks.

That said, there really is no place in this expansion that stands out as an xp spot...other than korafax/discord which most things are immune to snare. I have been finding myself going back to tosk if I want to burn a lesson doing solo kiting. Tosk and above can drop random augs & purity augs now, so there's a little bonus for staying in tier4 or above. Warrens is also good xp, but the dungeon has it's own drawbacks including the random zone-wide pathing see-invis verkichikcicichcicichki bastages. Bloodfields -can- be good if you are lucky on keeping kyv away, and City of Dranik can be good also. You need to check 'em out and find what fits you.

[Bonestripper]

I actually am in a mad rush to get 85 within the next week, as I said I just got back fomr a 5 month break so im trying to apply to this guild and geting raiding again ASAP, and I need 85 to do so. I still plan to do all the progression and aug taks and stuff, I just dont have the time to do them until after ive hit 85. I also have a serious amount of exp potions+lesson once a day, so ill pretty much have some sort of exp bonus going on the whole time

[Zark]

Iksar messengers in FoS near Cabilis can be a pretty save spot for kiting. so la la xp if no group hunts Slact. but dont even try it if there are more than 20 people in the zone.

[Veneichlung]

I like the shivstlakers camp in Tosk, plenty of mobs and Basta dies easy with Third Spire.

[Bonestripper]

Bastsa a named I take it? well I wont have 3rd spire until I get 85 and get my AA flowing back in, but I can call in the troops if I spawn him and need to keel him, the exp pretty good there?

[scrat]

I like the shivstlakers camp in Tosk, plenty of mobs and Basta dies easy with Third Spire.

Make sure you compliment that with task "Streets of Justice" ~ Chrono's have turned into $$ and the xp can be saved for a lesson burn for 2x.

[Veneichlung]

Bastsa a named I take it? well I wont have 3rd spire until I get 85 and get my AA flowing back in, but I can call in the troops if I spawn him and need to keel him, the exp pretty good there?

Basta Shivstalker is a static named for the task Streets of Justice. The XP is very good imo, at 3300+ AA's i can get 6 AA's on a lesson burn there followed by the task turn in. They have rough 200k hp so have to be careful with them.

[Ultulus]

Gators are the best exp in the game... end of story..

JoA coming in at a close 2nd.

JoA is pretty remote I'd say.

[Veneichlung]

The problem i found with gators is because of the lBlue con they don't give out enough xp per kill ratio as one is leveling. Although i may be looking at things from a raiders stand point as far as gear goes. But nonetheless as soon as They hit lb they sucked for xp, if anything the new spells let us kite in HoS and be able to take the Blackwater camp out easy.

[Mystiqat]

why would raiders gear affect anything?

[Ultulus]

I raid.... >_<

Light blue cons from SoF are the best exp.. cause you can use 3-4 dots to kill them for maximum deathage. just use high DPM dots and kill 4-5 of them at once.. nbd.

[Mystiqat]

i may be looking at things from a raiders stand point as far as gear goes
I raid too, I was talking about this quote, it bothers me

[Loophur]

raiders have better foci, so they have higher pds and a higher dpm and are so more efficient.

Gators are blue till 84 and turn light blue at 84.

If you want to grind(without any faction or other things to do) you wont find really better spots then gators as long as you dont run out of mobs.

Tho it would prolly be faster exp if youll find a good group at 84. Cuz youll kinda end up grinding with your spells from 80.

[Ultulus]

raiders have better foci, so they have higher pds and a higher dpm and are so more efficient.

Gators are blue till 84 and turn light blue at 84.

If you want to grind(without any faction or other things to do) you wont find really better spots then gators as long as you dont run out of mobs.

Tho it would prolly be faster exp if youll find a good group at 84. Cuz youll kinda end up grinding with your spells from 80.

you are BEST off finding a group from 80...

and honestly... as long as you have the camp to yourself... grinding gators is still even the best at 84. I wasnt too far behind most of the rangers in grinding to 85(pre headshot nerf obv). and that was before i even had raid gear. took all of 4 days. with max kith and FoS faction to boot.(though I had FoS hand/foot exp to help me through 60% of a level or something.

[solithan]

This is basically a "your milage may vary" debate.

Its been suggested that the gators are easy to kill and die fast and while they might not produce the single best xp per kill they represent an easy kill for good xp if you keep the kill count up.

Gear could make a difference, in that if you are very well off in the raid gear department you could find a zone that has tougher mobs but still die rapid style but produce more xp per kill.

For example, in OBF I kill 1 mob in 1.5 mins and net 10%xp.
In, LP I can kill 5 mobs in 1.5mins, each mob nets me 3% for a combined 15%
Purely based on speed of XP, its in my best intrest to go to LP.

The speed in which you kill is based on gear and AAs and skill level so this will very greatly from person to person and zone to zone. The trick is to pay close attention to how long it takes to kill a mob and how much xp you get in that amount of time. Then repete the procedure exactly when you go somewhere new. The newer expansions tend to scale up the HPs of the mobs higher then the XP reward from killing the mob thus leveling often takes longer in new zones then previous zones until your geared high enough to make up the difference.

That being said, the better the gear the quicker the easier mobs will die, so unless you clear all the mobs faster then they spawn, they still might be better xp. Without parsing its pointless to continue the debate.

[Atvar]

With raid gear, I can kill Tosk mobs with 6(sometimes 7) dots. I can also kill over 30 mobs there per lesson burn. I'm guessing I'd need at least 60 gators to do a similar burn to Tosk. I think I'd run out of mobs in loping before that.

[Veneichlung]

Even when i was i kiting in LP at the Kulthar camp i would run out of mobs and have to pull maybe a gator 3(even after pet tanking the nameds). Think i may post my lesson burn for today.

[Veneichlung]

Combined: A Shivstalker thief on 3/10/2009 in 1324sec

Total
--- DMG: 3956691 (100%) @ 2988 dps (2988 sdps)
--- DMG to PC: 28191 @34dps

Veneichlung + pets
--- DMG: 3610539 (91.25%) @ 2727 dps (2727 sdps)
--- DMG to PC: 28191 @34dps

Janer
--- DMG: 346152 (8.75%) @ 262 dps (261 sdps)

Produced by GamParse v1.0.2

Did this with 20 mobs on my lesson burn today. Didn't get all of my spam pets and Janer as well for that matter. I got about 6 AA's doing that

[Greven]

Granted im not quite raid geared, but imho nothing beats gators for exp, even at 85. I can easily get 8 - 10 AA depending on procs and pieces of dirt. Nowhere close on other zones, 4 - 6 in both FoS or Tosk.

Gators is gold, but its too far away and always camped.

[Bonestripper]

Solo kited from start of 81 to 84 at gators in 2 and half days. Nows all the gators are light blue at 84, exp was slowin down good bit at 83. Tryin to plan where I should hit up to burn threw 84 tomorrow. Thinking either maby Beza instance or somewhere in SoD? maby CoD? or Tosk? just wondering where others found the best exp at 84 to be. Gonna try and grind it all out tomorrow.

[Ultulus]

Solo kited from start of 81 to 84 at gators in 2 and half days. Nows all the gators are light blue at 84, exp was slowin down good bit at 83. Tryin to plan where I should hit up to burn threw 84 tomorrow. Thinking either maby Beza instance or somewhere in SoD? maby CoD? or Tosk? just wondering where others found the best exp at 84 to be. Gonna try and grind it all out tomorrow.

I would still say either gators or attiiki unfortunately. Beza instances kinda suck imo because you run out of mobs too quickly for my taste and there isnt that great of a place to kite. I burned through 84 in about 6-7 hours at gators when I had the whole camp to myself. So it really depends on whether you have to share it or not.

[Bonestripper]

No i dont have to share the camp, they repawn fast to wich is good, but i jsut feel like its slowd down alot at 84, thought i do have to worry about pvp comeing to interupt me sometimes, why a instance can be good, does suck having to get new task frequently and rekill the shocktroopers. you say JoA was good? i need finish few more missions for faction so i can get some purity augs.

[Ultulus]

No i dont have to share the camp, they repawn fast to wich is good, but i jsut feel like its slowd down alot at 84, thought i do have to worry about pvp comeing to interupt me sometimes, why a instance can be good, does suck having to get new task frequently and rekill the shocktroopers. you say JoA was good? i need finish few more missions for faction so i can get some purity augs.

JoA was good too yeah.. but you have to kill basically all of hte efreetis in zone before repop... :P

Honestly. 84-85 was awful. It was very slow. I'd really just suggest gators really. or the instances if you are worried about pvp.

[Veneichlung]

Try teh Blackwater camp near the graveyard in HoS. Prolly gonna need to add a few dots to your lineup but the mobs there are DB to 84, i finished off 84 out there.

[Bonestripper]

I finished it up at gators, all in all i mainly exped at gators from 81 to 85, did a little exp in the beza instance. Took me 2 day, 16 hours and 30 minutes to solo kite from start of 81 to 85 over the week. Glad to have just gotten it out the way, now need find a new AA exp spot for 85, got a long list of AA to get going on. Does anyone know someone had told me that monday for started of fabled was saposed to be double exp all day? anyone know if thats true?

[Raqab]

Old City of Dranik. Start at Xangef and work down to clearing Cythkes room. Use the dragorn guards above as needed to help on kills but make sure you get majority damage for the XP. Before the zone changes with named summoning and majority xp being lower i'd pull 10 AA per lesson here, now 6 to 8 AA.

With 3 DA's and Exigency/Supp and your 5 or 6 max dots and all the good AA's you can have a great time here and even take out the named with a chance for zw random aug drops.

It took a lot of dying to figure it all out, if you are looking for good XP and a challenge I recommend it.

[Filter]

wow, I'm super gimp I know but I just log on late sometimes and kill in FoS where there are a bunch of animals bunched in a smallish type area. I only get 2 blue of reg exp there at 82. I tried gators but they had way to many hps for my shitty gear/spells/mana. I'm assuming Tosk boars are always camped right? I wanted a new spot so I can push to lvl 85. I know I need spells and foci to make it work better for me but I'm trying when I can.

Are boars in Tosk as easy as animals in FoS or close? I just want to hit 85.

[Aiyee]

Exp is nice, but imo just let it happen and it will come as fast or faster than if you chase it. Start in Ogh/Ogv doing the Bayles tasks for aug, you should be able to solo them all but maybe the ancient treant and escort guard out of BB. The exp for the kills and the task wins should add up nice and you will get a fine aug. Then go to kith theme and do same thing. In kith everything is soloable by a nec for the aug except rain of ruin ambush. More exp and another fine aug.

[Zeli]

I'm going to add to this thread rather than starting another one, my question seems relevant enough to not totally derail.


Basically: Am I doing something wrong?

Typical LoD grind for me yields ~4 AA not the 6+ most people are seeing. I'd like to maximize this as lately it seems LoD is about all the playtime I get on a regular basis.

I know I have the following issues, I'd like some input on what seems to be the biggest issue.

1) No 2.0
2) No Anguish robe click
3) No PoR robe click
4) Gear

Thoughts?

[Zeli]

Another LoD run yesterday at LP gators...almost 4 AA exactly. Only had 1 true ooc regen, the rest was kiting multiples.

Beginning to think it's just a combo of all my issues leading to a relative inefficiency compared to those who don't have my deficiencies.

[scrat]

Another LoD run yesterday at LP gators...almost 4 AA exactly. Only had 1 true ooc regen, the rest was kiting multiples.

Beginning to think it's just a combo of all my issues leading to a relative inefficiency compared to those who don't have my deficiencies.

Hey Z, I gave a good look at your magelo and I really don't see any issue. Now, I did make one big assumption: you must not be using SoD rk2 spells because you don't have any SoD focus i.e. 45% pr/ds can be obtained without any void progression. Regarding your old focus, some DPS/efficiency AA lines yet to finish out and mana pool - 4aa/lesson doesn't seem like a bad rate.

Now, if you had SoD focus items (which would indicate you probably have rk2 SoD spells and a larger mana pool) I'd be asking about what spells you are using, general tactics.

[encephalitis]

Do a multiple kite (maybe 3+ crocs) to open, and keep the mobs on even burn until you're almost OOM and they're almost dead (5-10%). Just before the first one dies, pop your Lesson, and let the other two die just after. Do as many as you can for that opening round. This I actually learned from a ranger long ago at the undead murkglider camp in WoS. He'd basically murder down the murks til they were in "run away" mode, snare them one by one (15 minute snare), and then when he had about 10 or 15 "parked" at 1-2% life left he'd pop lesson and nuke or bow them down one by one, thereby getting at least 15 kills at the double exp rate.

Same principle applies, and in fact, if you have the no damage snare aa, you could do this same exact thing now. Gather up all the crocs one by one for the killin', get em down to like 1-2% hp (this might take some practice learning the combo of DoTs that will do this for ya), and then when you've got several down to that point, just pop lesson and lay a small disease DoT to finish them off.

Then you OOC for 3 minutes and begin kiting as normal. Should net you a few extra kills per lesson, and can probably put you closer to 6aa/lesson.

[Zeli]

Hey Z, I gave a good look at your magelo and I really don't see any issue. Now, I did make one big assumption: you must not be using SoD rk2 spells because you don't have any SoD focus i.e. 45% pr/ds can be obtained without any void progression. Regarding your old focus, some DPS/efficiency AA lines yet to finish out and mana pool - 4aa/lesson doesn't seem like a bad rate.

Now, if you had SoD focus items (which would indicate you probably have rk2 SoD spells and a larger mana pool) I'd be asking about what spells you are using, general tactics.

I have the SoD bazaar-bought Rk2's. I've been avoiding upgrading my Glossy Silk...I don't want to "upgrade" to T1 when my fellowship will hopefully be farming T3 within a matter of weeks. I'm ok with being outdated slightly for a short period of time, knowing that I have big upgrades around the corner. Side note, I am currently factioning for Soul Reaper's Rk2, and will be following that up with Scorching/Slitheren in that order I believe.

Re: AAs...3rd spire will be done this weekend. Aside from that, which DPS ones would you prioritize? Very unfamiliar with alot of the new ones...I want the swarm pets next I think, unless they are just useless.

I think my general tactic is on par with everyone else, aside from the "first round of LoD kills" just discussed previously. Read a whole bunch on here and made myself quite a bit more efficient than when I first returned a few months ago.

[Siluuael]

Questions:
1) Do you have Searing Shadow? This and scorching have ridiculously good DPM and are great for multi-kiting, since they (like the disease spells of old) are nice for timing snare.

2) Are you using 1st spire twice during lesson? It has a 90 second duration and 10 minute recast, so you should be able to get this off twice. 3rd spire is better, but until you get that use 1st.

3) Do you have netherside rk. 2 and do you use spirituality potions? Those two together give you a ~30 mana regen / tick advantage over netherside 1 alone.

4) Are you using personal tribute for dot haste and dot mana preservation? Those two will be dramatically better than what you have on your gear now.

5) Get whisperwind. It's no damage, but it's $$ for pulling / kiting, especially when you are kiting a crowd and end up in a corner, or need to make some room to snare another add.

6) Do you know how many / which dots it takes to kill a croc, without overcasting? Test this out on a couple before you start your next burn, and see what is the most efficient setup you can get to take them down. If you get a GoM proc and can drop a big pyre dot on them, then don't cast one of your other dots to preserve mana.

If the answers to all but #5 are "Yes", then I don't have anything to offer over what was already said, besides to look at upgrading your augs, as most of them are pure HP augs. Start looking for augs in the 65/65/65+ range that you can solo. Once I'm done with my upgrade to poohjure's aug spreadsheet, you should be able to use that to sort them out pretty easily.

You're going for the right two dots currently, as SRP and scorching are both really, really nice. The sooner you can get into T3 gear, the better you're lesson burn xp is going to be.

[Zeli]

Questions:
1) Do you have Searing Shadow? This and scorching have ridiculously good DPM and are great for multi-kiting, since they (like the disease spells of old) are nice for timing snare.

Yes and can't wait for the new one.

2) Are you using 1st spire twice during lesson? It has a 90 second duration and 10 minute recast, so you should be able to get this off twice. 3rd spire is better, but until you get that use 1st.

I'll admit I haven't played with it much. There is room for improvement here.

3) Do you have netherside rk. 2 and do you use spirituality potions? Those two together give you a ~30 mana regen / tick advantage over netherside 1 alone.

I have Netherside Rk2, potions I have not been using but great idea. Btw...are there mana potions like there are healing potions?

4) Are you using personal tribute for dot haste and dot mana preservation? Those two will be dramatically better than what you have on your gear now.

Another great idea what I am aware of and going to be working on ASAP. Need to farm some items.

5) Get whisperwind. It's no damage, but it's $$ for pulling / kiting, especially when you are kiting a crowd and end up in a corner, or need to make some room to snare another add.

I was wondering how awesome this AA was...I'll grind it out.

6) Do you know how many / which dots it takes to kill a croc, without overcasting? Test this out on a couple before you start your next burn, and see what is the most efficient setup you can get to take them down. If you get a GoM proc and can drop a big pyre dot on them, then don't cast one of your other dots to preserve mana.

In a nutshell, yes. My current lineup will kill the gator say 75% of the time, the other times it will be left under 10%...all depending on luck with crit, GoM and such. I'd say that in general, I get my mana's worth.


I appreciate all the info and the time it took everyone to check out my gimp stuff. Thanks for all the tips and confirmations of my hunches!

Maybe if I'm real nice I can con Vene into soloing me an Anguish orb! :eek:

[scrat]

I can totally understand wanting to wait for the fellowship to hit SoD upgrades - as they will be huge and come with a great sense of accomplishment.

The swarm pets...meh. Rise Bones provides the quickest bang for the buck, but rank3 peaks around 230dps with max pet crit/flurry AA. And usable once every 10 minutes, and only at a minute per shot - it's a sustained over-time ADPS of only 23 lol. It is more of a burst, and has no defensives at all.

AoTD, while a much bigger cost investment + reuse reduction series - nearly doubles the burst dps to 450s (again with max pet crit/flurry aa). And since it is 90s duration with 3min recast - your sustained ADPS can hit 220+ dps. That can be significant. Then again, so is the AA costs to get to that point. One big advantage is these are decent defense pets also.

Mastery of the Past is one of my favorites believe it or not. Not fizzling on stuff 5 levels below you can add up as well as not fizzling on GoM procs. Mana saved = mana available to destruct.

But I think once you grab scorching shadow you will see a significant leap in efficiency and kill rate due to your mana pool stretching further.

[Zeli]

Mastery of the Past is one of my favorites believe it or not. Not fizzling on stuff 5 levels below you can add up as well as not fizzling on GoM procs. Mana saved = mana available to destruct.

Man do I *hate* fizzling on a GoM proc. This may win out. It definately is going on the short list of ones to get sooner than later.

AotD > Swarm...I'd have never thought it. I read bunches of places that AotD is all but worthless, more of a "for show" AA. Maybe I should start parsing a little more often and trusting the internet a little less.

I should mention that when I took my extended break, circa Spring 2006, I had ~1100 AAs...so that's why you see lots of goofy AAs instead of ones that are useful now. Was getting at least somewhat close to maxing anything remotely nice, and well now I'm just plain out behind haha.

[scrat]

AotD > Swarm...I'd have never thought it. I read bunches of places that AotD is all but worthless, more of a "for show" AA. Maybe I should start parsing a little more often and trusting the internet a little less.



I need to clarify...IMO AotD is only truely beneficial when you are soloing (when you can manage the corpse pile and able to maximize the duration (taking a hit from another mob when their current target dies to force them to continuing attacks). As a kiting tool, it is very useful. Very useful.

In group/raid scenario it's usually impossible to have ample (or any) corpses + group members willing to handle the visual sewage + targets that last long enough to make the cast time worth it. I usually resort to only using aotd on named. So the stuff you read about this ability being near worthless is still true - but it's from the viewpoint of grouping & raiding.

[Zeli]

Ah, great clarification there. I don't raid and my group doesn't mind AotD. A ton of my time is kiting.

3rd Spire and Whisperwind done. 3rd Spire is nothing short of amazing. I had a 10,850 tick of Reaver's Pyre Rk1 last night (3rd Spire + Blood Proc)...not the greatest still but I tell you what, it sure felt like a milestone. :)

Few days and Soul Reaper's Rk2 faction will be done. Now to look into FoS faction! Kith has been mind-numbingly easy other than playing the waiting game to request the tasks.

[Filter]

I swear everytime I come here and read what others are using for aa's or spells or tactics or or or......I get more and more mad at myself. I would love to get my necro up to 85 so I can switch to aa's again (only have 400). I wish my play time allowed for more but it is what it is. I still need to finish my dot crits sadly (need a couple more I think).

Filter
83 Gimpified Necro

[Zeli]

I did anything related to DoT crits as I levelled. Couldn't stand to wait, knowing with each added tier of AAs I'd be more and more efficient.

Picked up a few other misc. ones as I saw fit, still need a few of those that I convinced myself I could do without. :eek:

[Zeli]

3rd Spire and Whisperwind done. 3rd Spire is nothing short of amazing. I had a 10,850 tick of Reaver's Pyre Rk1 last night (3rd Spire + Blood Proc)...not the greatest still but I tell you what, it sure felt like a milestone. :)

One last update/derail...

[Sat Apr 25 12:50:00 2009] A restless alligator has taken 15074 damage from your Soul Reaper's Pyre Rk. II.

[xikariz]

One last update/derail...

[Sat Apr 25 12:50:00 2009] A restless alligator has taken 15074 damage from your Soul Reaper's Pyre Rk. II.

What'd you have running for that? So far I've only managed to catch 13kish crits, but I'm guessing you may have a better foci / might've had a bard bot etc.

[Ultulus]

[Thu Jan 29 22:24:34 2009] Chief Researcher Entharr has taken 22977 damage from your Soul Reaper's Pyre Rk. II.

That was without a bard with 70% focus to 80. Glyph+3rd+blood I think.

edit: checked log again.. no glyph. just blood+3rd

[xikariz]

[Thu Jan 29 22:24:34 2009] Chief Researcher Entharr has taken 22977 damage from your Soul Reaper's Pyre Rk. II.

That was without a bard with 70% focus to 80. Glyph+3rd+blood I think.

edit: checked log again.. no glyph. just blood+3rd

Maybe I don't pay enough attention but I don't think I ever have crits that high. How's that even possible without a bard or a glyph / vet AA?

[Zeli]

What'd you have running for that? So far I've only managed to catch 13kish crits, but I'm guessing you may have a better foci / might've had a bard bot etc.

Mine's not even close to the best...I have gimp focus.

That was 3rd Spire + Blood proc, nothing else.

[Ultulus]

Maybe I don't pay enough attention but I don't think I ever have crits that high. How's that even possible without a bard or a glyph / vet AA?

mine very well may have had a glyph and it just didnt get read by gamparse. *shrug*

definitely no bard though.

[solithan]

It "could" have just been a very lucky blood proc of 100% adjustment. I've seen 12K crits without blood so it would stand to reason a 20k or even 24k could come without vet AA

[Agshar]

The topic is and was about best places to kite from 81 to 85...who gives a moss snake's ass about how you crit on mobs?!

enough derailing already!

[Zeli]

Wow. :eek:

Last post almost 3 weeks ago. There were even apologies in the posts for derails...let it slide.

Did it really bother you that much? There's some good info in there, even if it's unrelated.

[Agshar]

search is in a mess bcz of this. it doesnt bother me that much, but it helps to have some integrity.

[Zeli]

Bothered you enough to resurrect a thread over it, and post additional unrelated info. :)

I'm done, sorry, no hard feelings. So where do you kite at 81+? Maybe we can turn this around into some more positive info for everyone.

[Filter]

FoS still for the ease of mobs if its not over camped. There is a nice little spot at the bottom of the map (bottom and left I think....sorry for the stellar directions there) with 13 to 15 animals there. I can kill all of them and sit and med to full before repops happen. I only to this for an hour or less before raids start just to burn lesson.

Its amazing how much foci, 82 pet, EM4 and mage pet gear helps. I was in tbs group gear crap for months since I really didn't want to buy any new gear until I got up to lvl 85 and then work on SoD. I used to have to load up 5 dots in order to kill them (ashengate, dread, kedge, magic dot (one lower than mortal) and reapply dread in order to kill them. Now I just use dread, kedge and ashengate and they die in short order. The 40% foci (well probably is more like 27ish% averaged out I think I figured) does wonders for my dps.

If I could find some place better (better = mobs are easy to kill and not to difficult), I would give it a shot.

[Zeli]

I'll have to try it, I'm a tad burnt on gators right now. Spent the last little bit finishing Emp and VT keys in Luclin...I'm crazy right?

Every time I go to FoS the zone is packed, can't hardly find a spot to kite without "stealing" others' mobs.

[Agshar]

I tried two camps in Tosk, one known to many which is Shivs camp and one near Tonkk spawn spot on the way to warrens, plenty of space and mobs die slightly faster.

[Chasie]

I've tried the corner ya talked about in FoS, but as also stated trying to find the zone unpacked on Luclin can be a pita. Havnt tried Tosk though might give that a try in a few days.

[solithan]

I had to leave FoS due to lack of mobs. I don't think my new place is "better" xp but atleast I don't compete for mobs.

[Filter]

I'll have to try Tosk then. I really never compete with people since I play late or semi late on raid nights.

You talking about killing boars only in Tosk?

[Osgoode]

May I suggest the OldCommonlands Obliteration mobs in those static camps? I find splitting them difficult until I broke down and purchased a Cleric merc so the pet tanks while the merc heals. I'll go back and see how they taste now that I'm lvl 85.