Do you Melee?

[Mixylplix]

Simple question? Do you Melee at all? Personally I have maxed out my 1HB at 100 and have 2HB at 75 (Since Epic is 1HB I switched). Some MOBs will NOT let yu sit down and med. As soon as you do they are on you so for me when in sitation like that I start swinging away. I am not going to get in increble DPS out of it but my 8 here 12 there and a proc for 15 more does help act like another DOT. And it is fun to beat MOB's on the head while some tank is getting abused. :lol:

[Emzeon]

I stopped meleeing at either 12 or 16 when I became more familiar with fear kiting and such. I don't even know that I have a melee weapon in my inventory to switch to.

[Mixylplix]

Responses are interesting... I would have thought Necro's woudl fight more. From my experience we are better at it than other casters.

Hell the other night the cleric was getting pounded so walked up dotted the beast and then started beating it on the head. He went after me then. I never got below 80 pct health as I beat him down and lifetapped him into submission. Yeah I pulled my pet all the main mob to help me, but I gave the cleric much grief afterward. I mean HE can get decent armor too. Watching casters turn tail and run all the time just gives me the giggles.

Do not fear death Welcome it. You ARE A NECROMANCER after all. :unsure:

[Emperson]

Well, i would melee, but i use zheart so i cant... oh well hehehe

oh yeah and i dont feel like switching weapons heh

[Nerium]

For each point of defense gained, my armor class is raised 2 points. For melees I believe AC goes up 3 points for each point of defense gained. soooo....HECK YA I melee. I'll take all the free permanent AC I can get! My 1hb, piercing, offense, and defense generally max out by 40th, if not sooner. Tanking beyond 40 is too impractical since a robe-wearing caster simply cannot absorb the damage.

Nerium of Neriak
Necromancer

[Majordeath]

My 1 HB is a little over 100 now. I use Z-heart so no longer have my polished stone staff equiped.
I have had to fumble it out when OOM and pets DOA and that Sabertooth really wants my liver :o but I don't think I will make a point of training the skill any further.
I do however step in and take melee damage to help keep pet alive when needed. I figure I can get hp back from next mob easily enough and I don't want to use another set of summoned pet supplies if it can be avoided.

[Ahura Mazda]

its all relative.

at 65 with 110 maxed 1hb skill just go and see exactly what you are able to kill.

Its embarrassing to be sitting at an LDoN camp and have a orc attack you and it takes a minute to melee him down. This is with maxed skill 121 str and epic as weapon.

If you are using melee as anything other then something to kill time then you should quit your caster and go make a tank.

[Perkoset]

I don't melee at all ever. I stopped at about 14.
One major reason is my sister is a cleric and I hear here always grumbling about "idiot casters" who tank. More work for her and as if Rangers wheren't "mana sinks" already. A tanking casters is worse. :D

Stuff in quotes are her words. :P

I've never seen the point of tanking as a necro though. Some do, some don't.

[Xarulsis Soulreaver]

Wow, I have no clue how you guys can tank. I level in PoV and if I get a creature on me for more then 3 seconds Im dead and thats it. So don't expect to be a good tank at higher levels, cause u will die and die quick.


Xarulsis Soulreaver
58 Necromancer of
Lanys Tyv'il

[Schaeffer]

Originally posted by Xarulsis Soulreaver@Dec 31 2003, 03:12 PM
Wow, I have no clue how you guys can tank. I level in PoV and if I get a creature on me for more then 3 seconds Im dead and thats it. So don't expect to be a good tank at higher levels, cause u will die and die quick.
I don't think they said Tank, I believe the word used was "Melee". If you're fear kiting, there's nuthing wrong with following behind with your pet and adding a little DPS. In group situations, if you can't melee without getting aggro then don't melee. Most casters shouldn't because it's a drain on the healers mana, especially MoBs with damage sheilds. Necros can lifetap to counteract that and your healer should know it, but you still shouldn't be taking aggro from the tank with melee, you might make him cry.

Everyonce in a while I will jump in to save my pet, take a few whacks, back off, life tap, and take a few more. This is only if the pet is dangerously low on HP's, the MoB is close to death, but not close enogh that one nuke will do it and I've slowed him so he isn't going to whack me into next week. If it get's too crazy, screw the pet and FD early, better to FD before getting hit and recast pet than take chance that FD will fail while you're getting beat on! Haven't tried it in Valor, and I don't think I will either!!!

[Dranul]

I try to avoid melee in groups, but if I'm the only one that knows something just popped, and the tanks don't respond to my message, I set up my three DoTs, ac tap it, and get in there. I'm lvl 31 and I still use a dagger, and my peircing is only 49, so it's not like I'm doing anything, but I can take more hits than my pet can.

Of course, while soloing, I always melee, though I've been doing some experimenting with fear kiting. I'm hoping Invoke Fear is more reliable than Fear so I can continue this practice.

[nethyia]

Well, I'm currently at 27, and till a few levels ago, I would help my pet tank. Simply put, lower level pets do not really have the HP to tank effectively, and areas where fear kiting is not good, till I got Shock of Poison, the first real DD spell, I would simply be bored, get whacked on so my bet wouldn't get as much of a beating, then lifetap to kill the mob and bring my health up. Now I usually do it to mobs that have been feared, or wimped at at low hp, just whack em from behind. Offense, piercing, and defense are near max. As a melee, I suck. I will never be good. But sometimes, it just feels good to stab someone in the back. (Note to self: maybe you should start a rogue).

Nethyia, Wielder of the Dark Arts

[abys]

At 50, everything hits for at least 100 a round against robed types. I was soloing Ghoul Lord just today with a Virtue on (2800 hp, not too bad for level) and I was at 60% hp from 100% in a matter of seconds without lich up. I had to FD and /q out when both guards popped on my head =p

This anecdote just shows how things get once you get past your 30's. The only time you will tank at high levels is.. well, when you die. Some necros farm at 65 by out-lifetapping a mob, but thats with 5k+ hp and 50-100+ AAs worth of mitigation/evasion/hp/regen.

I don't even carry a melee weapon with me anymore. My Ancient Tome of Necromantic Magic helps me do what I do best: cast.

[Aneastin]

I melee on caster mobs long enough to get my Draekkel(sp?) Wolf Claws to Proc. The 2 min FT 6 proc is nice and in groups combined with Mind Wrack it drains the Casters pool relatively quickly. That can be a good bonus when fighting CHing mobs. Other then that I try to stay out of the mobs way.

[Soulsapper]

Ok well I did not know about the 1 defensive skill giving 2 permanent AC. What mobs can I fight now at lvl 38 that would give me some raised skill without pommelling me to the ground?

Soulsapper 38 Necromancer
The Nameless

[Jebasiz]

I melee all the time...That damn spell refresh is just so slow hehe. The procs are nice too.

Jeb

[Badnewz]

its not hard to get melee skills up really, when u in a group they dont expect much of u anyway so why not hit it a little? at raid lvl theres quite a few good weapons for a caster and the manatap procs can be pretty effciant. theres few 60dmg 30del 1hb weapons. one thats dropable i think, -30 int but still. being a caster and laying down 100+ hits cant be all that bad. i persoanlly use a blood runed battle wand and enjoy smashing on mobs to keep things exciting when im grouped.

[Shadowmana]

when i solo in veksar i melee a little ill cast undead slow and vexing and let mob beat me down while i try to proc my staff of undead legions 585 free damage to undead and mean while my pet doesent need to take any damage
and cause i am only casting 2 spells per battle im almost never OOM and after 2 or 3 enemys my HP's will get a little low and ill let pet take some damage while i vex from a distance

free fast exp and good way to get your melee up
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[Devlinn Deathcaster]

Well im only 33 necro ATM, but i do see the advantage of using a weapon to help kill off mob, but i wouldonly resort to it if i had a tank who could keep a nice agro or if i was fear kiting other than that theres really no point to having a melee. Except for the Scythe OF sundering(i think thats what is called) nice stats for a necro and good melee dmg. but if you can find a weapon thats better than ur primary slot item than go for it.

[Doomfir]

At 65 I can't see of one reason to stand up and tank unless you are only going to take one whack and it will save the life of your pet. Now, saying that, I will say this. I have tanked... and I have done it in the HoH.. but only out of dire necessity because the tank went LD and someone had to do it.. Why not me because I can lifetap it back out of the mob while the others concentrate on assisting to kill it rather than running all over the place.

On the whole though, you do more for yourself and your group by sitting down and helping to med up the mana for another Neurotoxin nuke, FPoK dot or whatever than by getting up and trying to proc some marginal spell. I also have staff of undead leagions and it sux for dps because the weapon is so slowwww. You might get one.. or at most 2 procs before your group kills a mob. if you would just have sat down and gained more mana you could have had another 2+ casts of FPOK for the same time. It is all in the math.

I don't know how many times I have seen a cleric hammering away at some mob, only to say later he needs to med because he is lom.. what a shmuck! His dps with his hammer is almost insignificant...

My armour is pretty good, but not as good as Jeb's. Perhaps if I had his gear I wouldn't mind getting in and mixing things up a bit in non planar zones just for fun.

[Fahllen]

:ph34r: I've melee'd since the beginning I have almost 100 defense 90 or so in 1hb. I'm lvl 39 and I die a whole lot slower and less than any caster that I ever party with. One of the main reasons that I chose to melee, by pure accident it happened to be the same type as epic, was to use the Delightful Orb of Forgotten Magic. Starts proc'n at lvl 35 and starts out doing around 314 instant DD damage, at 39 its doing 318/320.

Another recommendation I give to any necro is get a Robe of Abrogation--Regeneration II-- and I am of course Iksar. The natural regen+ikky regen will hold you to be over or break even until 34 with your mana/hp convert spells. The Robe of Abrogation runs 5-15k depending on server, it is Dark Elf tailored and have heard it is around 180-190 skill to create. I just got lucky I was tailoring my 50 wiz hunting in bazaar to check to see how much Words Of Abrogation were going that day and saw the robe for 2.5k....lucky break I quit tailoring at 132 :P

Also for those who were looking for a place to skill up around 29-40 give or take, you can solo pull gaurds in HHK(I recommend you get Temperance from a cleric before doing this) and melee him w/ life drain spells.

Fahllen


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