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Shadowmana
12-05-2003, 12:32 PM
well i read else were on this sight that some of you hunt in veksar and i have been there many time never even considered hunting there i was never any good at hunting in enclosed areas i always kite so just post how you do it or how you would think you would. what charm/pet/root/snares you would use im lvl 57 ATM
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Beltathor
12-05-2003, 01:27 PM
Well.. when I solo there.. there are a couple of things I do first..
Head to the bazaar and grab mage summoned items (haste mask, weapons, and 500 hp belt for the pet)
head in.. invis past the gobbies and go straight up the ramp to the undead
make a pet ( I dont DC unless I am in a group. the DC pet can't taunt, and has a tendancy to argo mobs), buff pet and give him the mage items.
Send the pet in to the first mob. Slow. Personally, I reverse heal when I solo. I use saryrns kiss, then HoT the pet. sit.. med.. Recast the HoT on the pet.. maybe an undead nuke or 2.. and its dead..
FD is your friend.. you may pull argo from the slow.. (oh yea.. and you cant FD with a DC mob.. you loose the charm)
**note** these are the mobs BEFORE you go swimmin.. once you swim, the mobs are alot tougher, and summon, but the same rules apply.. I just add a second dot.
I didnt solo there until 60, but with a slowed mob, ya may be able to do it.
Vhampyre01
12-05-2003, 02:48 PM
It's been my experience that they pretty much ALL summon, cept the goblins at the entrance...maybe I'm mistaken.
glandeen
12-05-2003, 03:56 PM
im 57 and also solo at the top of the ramp... i have done it 2 different ways.... one makes for a whole lot of downtime where the other is more risky but provides almost non stop killing.
first way: invis past gobbies up ramp. Pull and buff pet. Med to full without Lich (don't ask me why id med without lich cayse im not really sure just a funny lil thing ive gotten into i buff self buff pet sit and med and get ready for the battle). Ok now im read to rock... turn on lich and cast Hungry Earth on mob.. yes i Root it.. reason being is that if thye are rooted they do NOT summon if they are free to roam they DO..(happened to me night before last) they also HT and id much rather fido take that as opposed to me.... while rooted i slow then VM and CoC then send pet in and FD off aggro... works great but pet needs to heal up a lot between fights.
Second way: invis past gobbies up ramp. charm the first one i see.. dont have DC yet so its not even an option. do not haste pet.. turn him on next mob slow and med and be ready with FD in case charm breaks... just have to make sure our not sitting in somones spawn spot or getting up could pose a problem. once fist mob is dead make haste and move along to next mob.. repeat this process till your pet is at 20% healh roughly... then make hime guard far away from you and FD off the charm then stand root and finish him off...rinse and repeat for repop... i can take out a room of 5 with the pet before i have to kill him off. Although this way is a lot more risky it also has much less down time given the huge boost to pet DPS.
SIDE NOTE: Undead in Veksar HT SUMMON AND FEAR... this can add up to a BAD combination so be ready to FD and if necessary Levant to ZI.
hpe this info helps
Shadowmana
12-05-2003, 05:09 PM
Gahh i jst got back from trying to solo there and i was B 4 the swimm and a little after the ramp and i gotta know what charm your useing cause im usieng thrall of bones
heres what i do
there is a little u turn with 2 mobs near the end but not too close to the turn i dont know if you know were im talking about but it doesent really matter there are 2 mobs i wait till FOM then i cast thrall on 1 mob sick him on other mob and cast slow on other mob and ill throw in a vexing for fun but the charm doesent last but 2 seconds and it is gone and they boath come and eat me and them in FD with little HP and no mana and i gotta wait for the regen and try again.... and it fails again died 2 times doing this ... ohh well got a necro buddy of mine to rezz me
ohh yeah im still a newb at this message bord stuff thats what the strange voting thing is up top srry :-)
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Mixylplix
12-05-2003, 05:44 PM
I was there once. Trying the Shaman Gobbies near the entrance. Cast on one, agro'd a second and was hitting gate before I knew it. Talk about getting blasted by spells. I had three nasty spells on me in a heart beat and was at 41pct and dropping fast. Had to pull up the remove disease and cast it then bandaide myself to get back to 50 then sit and cuss for 5 minutes.
Veksar looks promissing, but I beelive I got to hold off on trying that without a full group anytime soon.
I am 50 now.
Shadowmana
12-05-2003, 05:55 PM
well im back again lol i was charming crusader and thats why it was breakig so soon i think i charmed the other one and actuly got 2 kills :-) thanks
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glandeen
12-11-2003, 04:25 PM
couple things to keep in mind....
when you charm a MOB it has a chance to break charm based upon three things
1. its MR
2. the random # generator for the " random duration" of the charm
3. Charisma
it will make these 3 checks every tick so them mob can break charm at any given time:
SO if your going this route i would suggest AFTER charming it use scent of darkness and lower its MR.. also lose any netted kelp stuff or -cha gear your wearing and get a cha buff from a chanter/shammy. my charms were going full till i broke them almost every single time. Also stay away from the fight as much as you can (across the room if you can would be beast) and if you keep the NON charmed mob rooted if charm DOES break then only 1 will be on your back. being far away will get you some time to start getting the spell off before he hits you. This method works great for me but; like i said before definately much more risky. try the cha buff and MR debuf and see if that helps any.
raiff
12-12-2003, 07:45 AM
DC pet doesnt hold aggro?
hahahaha
i got dc almost first off, and with it can make 30k a day in veksar. easy
summoned pets before 60 dont hold up too well against these mobs, before i had dc, i "tanked" for my pet, loaded deflux and chained it, while rouge pet beat on mob from behind, wasnt very efficient tho
Shadowmana
01-04-2004, 12:07 AM
well i started this and i have been hunting in veksar for a while and i think i know how to do it :-)
i use my monk pet casue well thats all i have and i buff him with my aug then i pull mobs with my undead slow / shackle of spirit then i cast eather vexing or pyro depending if i need HP's or not then i sit back and cast mend bones yes thats right mend bones 50 point heal for 25 mana not too bad if you ask me and i can chain pull all day and all night like that unless some how he fears my pet and i get adds that rarely happens and when it does i just FD and start over
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Schaeffer
01-04-2004, 10:18 AM
ok here's what i do,
Use highest pet you got, why because it's higher level and resists fear better. Yeah the warrior pet at 49 has more HP's but the 56 monk has higher DPS and resists better. There are two types of MoBs in that little area, Crusaders and Sentry's.
Sentry's - Root, Slow, send pet, splurt, shadowbond pet, Vex mob and wait till dead.
Crusader's these bad boy's have a nasty harmtouch. You want the pet to take that, cause if you cast slow first, you'll have slow aggro, and low HP aggro and you're screwed. So, send pet, wait for Harmtouch, shadow pond pet, slow mob, vex mob, splurt, reshadowbond pet, sit and wait till dead.
Easy as pie.
P.S. Crusader's fear as well. Like I said before, use highest level pet you got so it resists fear. If pet get's feared then MoB hit's on you and pet may come back with adds. I suggest taking run off and not having sow on as well. Fear pathing leads you right down ramp to Gobby's and you don't want six of those on ya.
Umbrello
01-04-2004, 06:13 PM
What kind of drops do you get soloing the ramp? what about after the swim?
Just curious, cuz I know some crazy stuff drops in Velks. I know of a high lvl necro that camps the moss covered hood, can anyone give info on item camps and their experiences?
Velyan
01-05-2004, 10:47 AM
Generally if I'm goin' to Veksar, I'm camping either the temple or the shopkeeper. Temple has 3 named spawns, and 8-12 mobs for good aaxp with only self imposed downtime, shopkeeper has the really good loot, when the stingy bastich drops the Soulscream belt.
This place is cake for decent aaxp at 65, if you want to just kick back and relax for a while. (As opposed to agrokiting in PoP zones for real aaxp. :P )
Typical non-named pull is usually, pull with slow, sic pet, FD to lose slow agro, drop a tap over time, sit, go back to talkin' in /gu.
Named pulls, add Funeral pyre, a pet heal or two, and gratuitous ranger joke.
Veksar is usually pretty quiet on Povar, so it's a nice place to relax and hang out with friends.
Enidano
01-06-2004, 07:17 AM
The way i hunt here is quite simply and effective.
If you are facing a sentry cast slow on it send pet. If sentry is still on you FD. Then get up cast splurt, Ignite blood or Bond. Cast Shadowbond on pet and sit. Heal yourself as needed.
I use the 49 pet for HP, i also cast spirit armor and augment of Warlocks Pantaloons. Give him weapons too.
Against Crusaders cast shadowbond on pet. Send pet, slow after pet takes HT, Splurt and heal yourself as needed. If your pet gets feared stand toe to toe with the crusader with deflux until pet returns if he follows pet he will aggro gobs or other undead and then your in trouble. Gl to all.
sintalon
01-06-2004, 05:42 PM
My 2 cents. I hunt Veksar frequently for cash and AA. I use the DC method. I use Mage summoned weps and girdle. Im not sure who said it on this thread, and ive seen it before regarding DC pets not taunting, but allow me to show you a few things about DC that may help you in the future. I will get into that shortly.
I go in and find the first sentry or crusader i can. At this time i have FD attempt to charm if it fails i FD and try a diff one. There are many by First Undead area past gobbies one of them is bound to be DCable. Once i get the pet i Shrink it, give it weps, and haste it.
Now keeping in mind that a DC pet is around 45-46 you have to watch his aggro. At 65 i can fight pretty close to another mob and they ignore me. However they WILL notice the pet. So i step around a corner and there are 2 there. I pull one with slow and sick the pet on it. Within about 3 seconds he is off me. I wait about 3 more seconds and DoT it. Honestly with that pet you really dont have to even dot b4 the swim area but it gives you soemthing to do. Now instead of pulling the next one with a slow i sick the pet on it directly. I then wait a moment or until i see the pet summoned then i slow it. Max elapsed time is less then 5 seconds. Ill never get aggro unless i quadd dot them.
Before the swim there are 2 nameds Ph is a phantom and a duke. Ill leave you to look them up on Allahs.
After the swim there is alot of places you can go. With the DC pet you can fight the Iksar GOlems if you want. Youve got a pet that that has around 8k life so it is actually kinda fun to do. I do recommend having ToD tho it makes it alot more doable. Usually i will go to the Warlocks. Temple has the 3 that where named earlier but the attached room holds the 4th Named PH for warlock in the opposite middle tunnel right side. Usually the shop is camped when i go there so ill either take warlock or go down to the trooper. If you take that path only do it with a DC pet or invis your way there. You have to fight commanders and spellbinders i think they are called. Commanders were happily hitting my pet for about 376 i dont think CoB would hold up that long, although i have never tried it. Commanders give about 4% AA per kill and 10ish or so plat.
I could go on and on and on. the camps are boundless in Veksar. DC is really the way to go. FD is nice but, and i dont mean to sound harsh on this, dont use it as a crutch and dont mess up. I hear alot of necs avoid DC cause they cant FD i just kinda find it ridiculous. THe pet holds aggro so well its scary. Even in a Hate Kite scenario i have to load up specific hate dots just to keep HoH mobs off my DC pet.
To help out the other question on DoT line: Its mainly magic and fire that i use. They are pretty resistant to Poison and Disease, which in that zone is another reason to have DC pet. for those of you that will be playing there as a reminder level 64 ToD does have a Disease counter remover of i believe 8 on it. 2 casts of it on your pet and you will remove a slow that has been casts on it if it makes it thru.
Overall its a fantastic place to make immediate pocket cash and bazaar loot. I made around 130k last week and Veksar was a contributing zone.
yes we are necros but remember were not made of paper. the mob is slowed you can take a hit or two. and as always i recommend if you are new to the zone grab yourself an HP buff so you have a cushion.
Umbrello i recommend looking at Allakhazams and posting up something particular you want info on. there are alot of camps there and alot of items.
Schaeffer
01-06-2004, 09:01 PM
Ah so your the one, just kidding we on different servers, but I've noticed that others must do the same. Everyonce in a while I'll notice that one of the MoBs in the first ramp camp won't spawn. Then sometimes I'll see it shriked with a butload of mage gear on it. I always take it out real quick when that happens. Give the mage gear to my pet and presto uber summoned pet till I'm ready to leave.
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