Human necros suck...

[Nemeen]

.. yes I know, but I chose to play a human to be different. You wouldnt believe the number of people feeling the need to inform me that I should start over with anything 'cept a human. Im only lvl 11 and im anon to stop the free advice. <_< But im starting to wonder. Is me playing a human necro going to make that much of a difference later on as I lvl? So far its been nothing but fun and I wish I started a necro much sooner.

[Slitherclaw]

I don't like humans. But my first necro was human got him to 44 no problems. If you like him then don't listen to anyone else. Keep your chin up be a proud human nec.

Slitherclaw

50 Necromancer

Xegony

[Jenton]

I'm a human necro, too. I am level 63 and have no troule with my race choice whatsoever. Once you get to the higher levels it really makes very little difference what race you are, with the exception of Iksar due to the regen. But keep in mind they level much slower. Just play what you enjoy and you will do just fine.

[Sepulturah]

In your own words, you said the most important thing - you were having 'fun' with your human. That's all that counts, really.

And if the uber folks dis you cause of the human 'disadvantages' just remind yourself you can make up for them:

- no night vision (Dead Eye or Serpent Sight equip effects)
- lower INT than DE or Erud (INT gear, easy enough to max up with)

Remember, you have no xp penalty (unlike Iksar); probably the toughest part of being a human Necro is that you don't have a city to call your own (unlike Paineel or Neriak or Cabilis), but you can always do faction work, which I think is fun, to correct it. And humans are in a good position to make nice faction increases most anywhere.

I give kudos to you human necros :)

BTW - I just started a human necro (of Burtoxxulous) myself last week. Hurrah, the humans!

[Vhampyre01]

/agree Humans suck.

Make a gnome or resolve yourself to the inevitable feelings of insecurity that will forever be your lot in life!

2cp

[Sslitthar]

If your bent on not making a human necro you two best choices are Erudite or iksar, don't worry about the iksar KOS is no biggie after a while all necros suffer the same problem. I have a 59 iksar necro and even with the xp mod the natural regen is a must, with regen3 now I regen faster than ever. Not to mention several NPC drop only spells are sold by spell vendors in Cabilis.

Gnomes are okay, but really iksar are the best a little longer leveling through the hell levels but in the long run they are the best race.

[Sepulturah]

Didn't they get rid of hell levels?

[Beltathor]

To a point.. yes.. there are still "hell levels" past 59.. They took out the 35, 40, 45, 50, and 55 hell levels, and 36, 41, 46, 51, and 56 after hell levels (where you loose almost twice the exp per death).

[NeSikWay]

Well, Play what you have fun at. I'm a human in real life, want to do something else when online. I did try a DE necro once, and killed it, tryied a gnome necro, gnome mage, and a DE mage, killed them all. made a Iksy necro, and I've been wonderfully happy since, but its because I like to play him. Yes they are slower to exp, a gnome mage will be 6 when you are 5, so for every 5 lvls a gnome would be another lvl higher. So it can be a pain, but wouldn't trade it. If you enjoy your character play it, have fun, its a game. I love seeing people gutzy enough to play gnome warriors and other odd class/race combo's. Makes things more interesting.

[Shadowmana]

yes i totaly agree with NeSikWay have strange race / class combo's makes the game fun i would like to see a gnome warroir be the main tank Vs a dragon that would be great :-) i chose a gnome cause they are just so damn sexy and becuase they got good INT and the Dex helps a little with the casting
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[Doomfir]

Race means exactly nothing at the higher levels. At first being a human means you are blind in the nightime and dimly lit zones, but after you get some good seeing gear (like ornate head item with plainsite) then it means nothing. Humans have lower int initially too, which means a smaller mana pool. But after you get some good gear that initial -10Int or whatever is a moot point because of the good gear out there. It can make you go over cap anyhow so it doesnt matter after that point.

Even iksar regen means nothing at the higher levels. What is a few hps a tick when you compare what both our lichs are doing and our lifetaps? The small amount you regen naturally compared to those, and the amount of hps you now have (hopefully 2500 - 4400+) then what is a couple of hp a tick (6 seconds) regen? It is insignificant.

The only thing you need to concern yourself with is if YOU are happy with your char. Mine is a DE but then again, so is all my other char I play cause' I just like DE's. We get the fine chicks. :-)

One thing about the gnome warrior though.. that does not line up with this argument... the ONLY real race for a warrior is an ogre.. I say this because they are the only race that cannot be stunned from a frontal attack. No amount of armour etc can make up this innate atribute for a tank.

[Pixiknig]

Hello all.

I must agree with the few on it does'nt matter what race you pick.

If you want it easyish then erudite is the way to go with high int at creation.

But at then end of the day high int only gives you more casting end of,and with hp to mana spells lower int players have no real probs keeping mana pool up.

I played a erudite but got fed up with the long down time in hp regain so plugged for iksar.Yes we get xp hit but stats we are the best in all but int and charisma,no big hay there my ikky out leved my erudite cause of the hp regain.Where i was backing off or dying at lower levs from not being able to regain hp fast enough the ikky romped to 12 where the eruidte only made it to 5.

At the end of the day play what you feel is right for you and you only,everyone has their fav but its your choice on how and what you play.

Final though on best necro class.Its only as good as the person playing it :P

[Blacklotis]

Originally posted by Pixiknig@Dec 11 2003, 07:16 AM

Final though on best necro class.Its only as good as the person playing it :P
I believe this says it all: :rolleyes:


Blacklotis

[Dycacian]

In the end it doesn't matter a bit what race necro you pick. Your gear and spells make up for any low points.. I picked DE 2.5 years ago based on good looks. And now I don't believe that any other necro has more advantage than I do.. I do fine. extra lil bit of regen doesn't matter when you get good gear. and we all have the same mana regen. HP is everything to a necro.. having high INT matters little since we regen aman so fast.. a big mana pool won't help much when it is exauhsted. but your lich will always be ther for all races. Iksars get a bit of health regen.. but they also get a 10% exp penalty. but at 65 with good gear.. a bit of regen won't make that much of a diff. as for night vision and junk.. I think skellie illusions give Ultra Vision. and you are in that 99 % of the time when it matters. and if not we get a spell. I think DMF gives UV but I could be wrong.. and Dead eye gives Infravision.

My 2 cents,
Dy

[Amused]

Must agree with everyone else. Race doesn't really matter. Just pick what makes you happy. I have a twisted mind (thus the sig), so I picked a gnome. He has a real problem with "little man syndrome". But then again, being short shows 1 main thing... I HAVE NOTHING TO MAKE UP FOR! =P

[Vhampyre01]

Originally posted by Amused@Dec 12 2003, 05:37 AM
Must agree with everyone else. Race doesn't really matter. Just pick what makes you happy. I have a twisted mind (thus the sig), so I picked a gnome. He has a real problem with "little man syndrome". But then again, being short shows 1 main thing... I HAVE NOTHING TO MAKE UP FOR! =P
Dude, please change your signature. That sort of thing may be funny to you, but if that's the case, you need counselling bro. I have a friend that lost a child to a freak accident with a loaded handgun, and when I see that signature, which makes light of that situation, it makes me want to puke. I'm asking ya nicely, please find something else (less offensive) to use as your signature.

Thanks.

[Rentz]

Humans suck at just about everything.

[nophobias]

Got a prob with humans punk? need me to woop yo ass punk? Lol

[erunec]

Originally posted by Vhampyre01+Dec 12 2003, 12:53 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Vhampyre01 @ Dec 12 2003, 12:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Amused@Dec 12 2003, 05:37 AM
Must agree with everyone else. Race doesn't really matter. Just pick what makes you happy. I have a twisted mind (thus the sig), so I picked a gnome. He has a real problem with "little man syndrome". But then again, being short shows 1 main thing... I HAVE NOTHING TO MAKE UP FOR! =P
Dude, please change your signature. That sort of thing may be funny to you, but if that's the case, you need counselling bro. I have a friend that lost a child to a freak accident with a loaded handgun, and when I see that signature, which makes light of that situation, it makes me want to puke. I'm asking ya nicely, please find something else (less offensive) to use as your signature.

Thanks. [/b][/quote]
I can't see what his sig image was, since it isn't loading, but your comment is more offensive to me than any image would have been. I didn't come to an EQ necromancer board to discuss gun safety and individual responsibility, but here it is.

The vast majority of "freak accidents" that involve guns and result in the death of children are not accidents at all, but simple cases of personal negligence on the part of the parents and/or gun owners.

I know this, because I have been taught gun safety, originally by my father, and then in a classroom setting. I also have personal experience in my family with the subject, since back in the 1970's my uncle managed to "accidentally" shoot my aunt in the head with an "unloaded" rifle in their kitchen, killing her instantly.

I'm sorry to say, but if your friend left a loaded pistol in his sock drawer or whatever, and his child found it and discharged it on himself, your friend is individually responsible for the death of his child. The person responsible is whoever the negligent person was that either gave a child access to the firearm or discharged the firearm in the direction of a child. Guns don't bust out of their secure gun safe, point themselves at children, and fire themselves. Modern guns won't even fire of you drop them or throw them against the wall.

[Schaeffer]

Originally posted by erunec@Dec 31 2003, 01:23 PM
I can't see what his sig image was, since it isn't loading, but your comment is more offensive to me than any image would have been. I didn't come to an EQ necromancer board to discuss gun safety and individual responsibility, but here it is.
The Sig Picture was a baby lying on it's back, holding a gun in it's mouth, nuthin funny about that, and not knowing the situation maybe it's best to just leave it alone then go into a big rant about it.

Gun Safety is no joke, I took a safety course once. First thing he taught us was never to load the gun until your ready to use it. The instructor was a friend of my father's He accidentally shot himself in the leg while climbing his treestand.

It's always tragic when a child dies due to a gun accident, no reason to badger someone about being sensitive to a picture like that, no matter who's fault it may have been.

[Mortilda]

Good day, my fellow Necromancers. I would first like to say, I am a Dark Elf and in my opinion, the only race to be as a Necromancer, however, you should not listen to what people say, do what you want to, I always give the advice not to play anything except a Dark Elf, but you must have fun while you play, if you believe it is much more fun to play a (YUCK) Human, then by all means, go for it. As long as you have fun. The choice is yours, not ours. Until next time, my fellow Necromancers, good day.


Mortilda Deathcaster
Necromancer of the 53rd Season, World of Quellious

[Perkoset]

I'm a human necro and I love it.
I love it when people tell me I should have made this or that.
Honestly, in the end there is no big difference with the gear in EQ now.
Sure in the beginning it made a difference but now it doesn't.

Be what you want and quite worrying about what others think you should be.