Stop Healing me!!

[Mortimus]

Does everyone have problems with Goody Goody Clerics feeling sorry for for you? I very rarely come across a healer who will let my health bar get to 40% which I reckon is an efficient place to use Tap over Time spell. Even some of my oldest game friends just can't bring themselves to do it!!

Nothing more frustrating than building up a reservoir of mana and dropping some on the hard pressed healer, only for them to waste it healing me!!

Time and time again I will say "Do not heal me unless below 40% or Under attack" , 2 minutes later, my health reaches 80% and I get healed!

I think it's in their Psyche :lol:

[Shadowmana]

lol i have the same problem every time i do a LDoN adventure at start i say dont heal me unl;ess i get B low 40 % or unless there is a mob on me but do they ever lission I think not <_< it must be a bad habbit but i have a cleric and because i have a necro i know when to heal and not to heal a necro so if you wanna get a good LDoN healer choose me :-)
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[Vavra]

I always have to educate the healers, not to heal me unless they see my hp dropping fast. I always tell them to save thier mana to heal the tanks (which means less twitching on my part)



p.s. DING 100th post :D

[Emperson]

yah lol its like none of these healers have ever played or played with a necro before...

oh yeah and grats hehe

[Luvinman]

All necros everwhere should make a hotkey for clerics...name the hotkey 'cleric'!

" Please do not heal 'charname' unless I drop below 40%, I will hurt the enemy to heal myself! I am at 90m and I will twitch you in a sec!"

What do you think?

/flame on

hehe
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[Death's Servent]

I have only had that problem with clerics a few times. I also play a cleric so I rarely heal necro but I have had the experince of getting yelled at by a necro for not healing him when he just allured himself down to 65%.


I say that some people will never learn.

[Rentz]

I have the same problem as well as you. While I don't mind the thought of it, I still do find it annoying. I can heal myself without a Cleric.

[Mortreus]

Yea i spent the majority of my time in lich so my life bar is constantly flowing back and forth, so i hear this alot in none combat situation's (Mort are you all right your lifes going down) this is usualy answerd by someone who plays a shammy (oh thats just his canablize spell you know life for mana). But when im on a good raid or grouped with my close friends my life rarley drops past 70%. but when i solo the fight for mana usualy keeps me lif around 50% or less at most times""""




Oh YA! WooT Vavra!!!!!!



Mortreus
52nd circle Heritic
Saryrn

[Vavra]

also I like to resond this way..

Healer: Vav you ok, your hp keeps dropping.

Vavra: I am ok I just doted myself to freak you out..

or

Vavra: ya I know, I am trying this out this new fad diet that changes you into a skeleton and slowly eats your life away..

guarenteed to get a few laughs from everyone cept the healer... :P

[Mixylplix]

I just want regen from a druid and I am cool. Rememebr gang with Lich with drop like 16 a tick even when sitting and medding and being good. Arch Lich is worse. So get a regen if you can, it makes things safer. :ph34r:

[sintalon]

I feel your pain. My brother is a 65 shaman and his GF is a 65 cleric....after all this damn time they still do it to me on occassion. At least i have the ability to reach over and bop them on the back of the head when they do. :) They are bad but my wife is a 63 druid and shes worse!!

[NeSikWay]

I have a cleric in my guild I've grouped with just a couple of times with my necro, I dont' think he's use to a necro, he heals me ALL the time, I just quit leaving my lifetaps in and do other spells LOL.....and alot of the time when I'm with him I have c3 on now and I'm not even in lich form!!!! I just shug it off and go on, but I have to admit that cleric does know to manage his mana very well. Though I have been with clerics who do know how and when to take care of me, its great :)

[cumadieaneu]

well since i can say i'm a cleric of the 56th yr and also play a necro I feel your pain I also tell the clerics not to heal me and I get the heal anyway hehe, as a cleric its in our nature to heal even if told not to, I don't unless like you say get below 40 % or are dropping health to fast, from attack. :D :lol:

[Tumi]

What's the big deal. I use to tell cleric's don't worry about it, but like someone else already said, it's easier on the cleric to watch for those low hp bars and cast without having to associate who really does and doesn't need help. It's their job, let them do it...besides, a necromancer has more damaging DoTs in their spellbook than health liches, use your mana for those when you have a healing cleric. I promise, you start using arch lich and casting spells that reguire 400 mana, you won't complain about alittle help from your friendly cleric once in awhile. :)

Tumi

[Schaeffer]

It's one thing to have someone cast a regen on you, i love druids and Shammy's for that. It's another thing all toghter to have a cleric heal you and then whine for a twitch. It's a waste of mana...

[Mortayna]

I have a cleric as well as my necro and I have caught myself healing necros before they drop below 50%. I usually just say oops habit, and dont do it again. :D
My necro is still learning and still on the lowish side, but extremely fun to play, and amusing to watch healers question the drop in hp's.

[Nyteson]

I've been pretty fortunate, haven't run into Clerics healing me. They do ask at the beginning of an adventure when they should heal me tho'. The Clerics must be learning. There's hope for them yet. ;) I even get the, "You alright over there Noc?" I reply with a, "Yeah, here in about 4 seconds"... /cast 2 (Drain Spirit) :D

[cyberdragon]

well when i group with a cleric they always have to heal me and i tell them not to but they say the forgot or the cleric is asking me why my hp is going down and it bothers me too much :angry:

[Jebasiz]

Heals..no heals, I'm still getting my life back I just don't see a problem here. Someone healing me doesn't cost me more mana for a lifetap.

Jeb

[Vanadinaa]

Ive come to the conclusion that almost (i said almost!) all clerics in the EQ world cant handle NOT healing i dont understand it ive told many many clerics not to heal me heal the tank save your mana cause im tired of twitching you! lol but they never listen its like tellin someone dont push the button or dont look behind you! its a messed up thing so i guess in a group were gonna be forever tormented with perpetual twitchin due to clerics waisting mana healing us when we dont need it

[Jebasiz]

I'll break down and mindwrack for group exp, very rarely will I ever twitch, and even then it's only really on raids like TRC or Xegony.

Jeb

[Aneastin]

This bothers me to no ends on longer fights such as raid mobs, because my tap over time is much more efficient manawise then my taps are. But for LDON or trash mobs I could care less.

[HazardousPanic]

Early on the ADV decide if your going to twitch - if you are twitching then the cleric is going to heal you - if you are not twitching then thy don't need to heal you.

Matter of preference. They can't see your Mana bar - so next time you are down to 15% and no mana and the cleric doesn't heal you - well remember you said it here, "Don't heal me"

From Exp. I haven't complained about a cleric healing me. One less thing to worry about and that much longer to stay with a conversion effect going.

[Arez_Voodoomaster]

Heh...lots of Necro/Cleric players. Since I played a Necro far longer than my Cleric, I've learned use my mana efficiently on both toons. When playing my Necro, I usually tell the Cleric in the group to not heal me if there is a Shaman, Druid or Ranger in the group. If there are no Regen-ers in group, then I let the cleric know not to heal me unless I ask for it (it's easy enough and more mana efficient to FD than to twitch back the mana the cleric spent on you if under attack.) Because I've played a Necro, and when playing my Cleric, I know the tell-tale signs of when the Necro in my group may be in trouble (which is very, very, and I say, very seldom) and may need a heal from my Cleric. In the end, remind the Cleric over and over if you have to. :)

[Skova]

I have both a cleric and a necro and i always felt this lead me to better understanding of both clases. A better understanding of what a necro does for a group.

I would prefer the SOP of 40% or falling fast. If there is a regener in the group this only happens when i am falling fast. but remember when in a group and no regener i use auspice. this is basically a 30 point regen for group. not exactly a mana efficient dot but so valuable to a group i use it every mob. Even when we have a regener in the group i use it to help top off assist tanks and casters. Shammies will love you for it!!

I would like to add a little known fact. Auspice and BOD or VM stack as a dot. usually in groups i find that helping the healer keep peeps healed is better than straight dumps. I start with auspice regenning the group. then cast vex mord. now the recourse on these spells do not stack. you will only get the life for VM. but turn around and hit lifebond on the mt. they now recieve 30 points for auspice and 125 for lifebond. no its not a cleric heal but will save the cleric much healing mana. And the mob DOES take the damage from both spells.

Not sure if this works with the higher levels ones yet but you can believe i will try)

[stukka]

Well, I have a 55 cleric and have just started playing a necro. When my cleric groups with a necro, I have to admit that I will heal the darkone, but only if mana is near full. I figure since it would just be wasted mana to sit full, i may as well heal, and the necro can then decide to DOT or lifetap, or whatever. If I am way wrong, please let me know :lol:

[Aneastin]

Stukka,
If you can use your mana on something else, then you probably should. If you can up the dps of the group with dd's or by tanking, then your group will be better off for it. Up until 61 a Necro's best or second best DD spell (except against undead is their lifetaps).

[Aryse Andenter]

I had a lot of trouble with this, and then it seemed to magically disappear when I hit lvl 46, as though all clerics who had been to the planes knew better. I used to explain to groups no heals for me, but it never seemed to help. It's not so much that I ever object to a heal, and when I'm down to 30%HP and oom, I'm awfully happy for it...
BUT - I hate all the sit and med time clerics want... I would much rather forgo the heal and pull/xp faster. And I can always FD or HS and the MT can't.

Plus, I seriously can't tell you the number of times I was in groups that didn't want to pull because I was in low health. I've honestly gotten cranky in groups about that to the point that I have threatened to die to my lich if they don't pull :lol: (Only I think it was probably the one prior to Lich back then)

[Jebasiz]

Twitching in ldon..I'd much rather donate or help pay for a KEI donation (if necessary) then twitch for 20-50mins during an ldon. I guess I just don't find it enjoyable.

[Schaeffer]

If i wanted to constantly waste mana like that I'd start a cleric and let the ranger tank....

[Sliderfx]

"Early on the ADV decide if your going to twitch - if you are twitching then the cleric is going to heal you - if you are not twitching then thy don't need to heal you."

When i do an adventure I always twitch and keep myself healed. For the most part the cleric will not heal me due to my request for them not to. I am able to twitch, dot and keep my health up without dropping below 50 mana. If i am not twitching at the moment then i dot and heal myself and never drop below 90. Regardless of whether or not you twitch in an adventure is irrelevant to whether the cleric needs to heal you. You are a necro therefore you should be plenty capable of doing it all.