Joining a guild

[fraserd]

I am a level 17 necro on the Rodcet Nife server. I am looking for a change from soloing and am wondering if it is worthwhile finding a guild to join?

Regards

David

[Mortimus]

I guess it depends on what you want to get out of the game, and whether you find a good guild.

I am a member of an extremely friendly guild on AB and I enjoy the guild chat, which gives me a bit of company when I am soloing or tradeskilling. If you want to do your epic (or even a worthwhile quest) you can get help and support with it. It also gives you a ready pool of players to group with as well as much help and advice.

If you want to get involved in raiding later, a guild is the way to go.

On the down side. Guilds can be full of politics and argument. If you don't join one that suits your style of play it will be doomed to failure for you.

Choose carefully, and if you find you have joined the wrong guild for you, move on.

[Doomfir]

Yeah, I joined one with my main (65 Rogue) and decided later on that I wanted to work on a Necro.. Well. I had so much fun with him I decided he was going to get some of the guild raiding pie for the non pop zones... well.. my guild leader had other plans and stated that the guild essentially "contracted" with me for my rogue only and that I had to play him on raids.. What a crock of shite... Since we raid all the time I would almost never get to play him in any serious role so I left the guild. Good riddance is all I can say.

I would rather have fun in the game (the reason I play in the first place), then to have someone tell me what I have to play all the time. He was just being a prick.

[Emperson]

my guild on SZ used to be pretty good... but now it just seems like a joke... everyone seems to be low level except a few people, but they never want to group with me... and nobody ever talks in a guild chat... so im gonna join a new guild probably pretty soon... lol

However, if you can find a good guild with friendly players and some characters around your level... definetly try it out... at worst you could end up just having to leave and maybe ending up with a few friends...

[Rentz]

Originally posted by fraserd@Dec 17 2003, 12:20 AM
I am a level 17 necro on the Rodcet Nife server. I am looking for a change from soloing and am wondering if it is worthwhile finding a guild to join?

Regards

David
At some point in your life as a Necro you will HAVE to join a guild. If you want to get high uber items and perhaps even your epic you will need help from people.. lots of people. That is why joining a guild is a good idea in my opinion.

[NeSikWay]

Guilds change over time as the member change. and guild is a personal preferance, you join a friends guild, or a raiding guild. raiding guilds have very strick rules and requirments. I'm in a cross guild, it was a guild started by some high lvl characters that couldn't commit to raiding all the time, but wanted to work on epics and have fun, but also have a chance to play alts and be excepted. Its a really nice guild, but some of the rules are a little strick so we can do some raiding...to me its kinda the best of both sides. May not ever get to time, but will have fun.

[Xaupus]

I am a member of an extremely friendly guild on AB

My i ask wot guild ??

[Death's Servent]

It can be a pain finding a guild. The guild that I am member isn't a bad guild tho we still have a few problems. From the look of it they started out trying to be a raid guild but ended up being a friends/family type guild. They can really help you out alot. They have helped me out alot on founding words or a tradeskill item for a quest that I was doing. Only grief I get from them is that I don't play my cleric or 50 warr main enough.

[Panagiota]

A guild is nice because it gives you someone to talk to when your soloing :) You will have the most fun if your in a guild with people you like and with people who a re friendly. Power hungry phalic waivers have been the cause of too many guilds falling apart (that I have seen). Stay away from guilds with excessive amounts of these types of people. They are not fun at all. Unfortunately it can only take one real stinker to tear apart a guild.

Panagiota

[Doomfir]

At some point in your life as a Necro you will HAVE to join a guild. If you want to get high uber items and perhaps even your epic you will need help from people.. lots of people. That is why joining a guild is a good idea in my opinion.


That isn't necessarily true any more. Ornate patterns are droppable and as such are for sale in the bazaar. They are just too expensive atm and I suggest you wait for the prices to come down... OR.. get your char high enough to hunt in BoT and get your own.

Then, with the advent of LDoN gear (which is very close to elemental planar gear at the high end of the points), then guilds are becoming less and less necessary. I do agree that if you are going to get your epic, you will need guild help. However, the necro epic really isnt much more than bragging rights. Anytime you can get a manaless snare / dot, it is good, but the stats werent that good back when it was new, and even worse now.

What you miss in a high level guild is the adventure of high level raiding. However at level 17 that is not a concern. Guilds at your level are mainly for compantionship and to have a pool of people to ask when you want to go do something together.

When you DO get 60+, then you can decide if you want to spend the time in a raiding guild that it requires. There will be many low or no sleep nights if you go this path as many raids may last to 2am or later. Fortunately PoP has cut back on some of those very late night raids.

It can be fun, or it can be hell in a high level guild. Only time will tell you which it is for you. I have played long enough and gotten good enough gear that I refuse to allow any guild to lord over me with idiotic rules or by people bent on forcing their will on other people when logic dictates contrary. I miss the guild, and I miss the people in it, but I don't miss the egotistical, meniacal guild leaders / officers.

[warlok34]

Ahh, guilds, they can be tricky, as I've soon learned.

Should you join a guild? Totally personal preference. If you're playing just for fun and mostly like soloing, then maybe a guild might not be for you. If you like belonging to a group that can help answer questions, or if you like helping other people with what info you know, then a guild might be for you. As stated before, very difficult to complete Epic Quest without a guild to help you raid (I know, not because I've done it yet, but because I've read up on what is required, LoL)... although not impossible. I have occassionally started groups to go do stuff that I needed (like going to Dulak for the components for the Auspice and Comatose spells) without guild help... simply used /OOC in POK and the LFG tool. This, of course, is unique and only works occassionally. With a guild, you get much better chances of getting a group or raid together to help you. And some raids are just fun (I went on a raid in Kael against Giants once, first time to ever see Giants fall down, soooo much fun, LoL).

Be forewarned, however... as mentioned, not all Gulids are fun. I actually have to admit I had to leave my first guild. Won't list names or guild, but I was kind of tired of hearing people be rude to others, and being impatient with those who were new to anything. I know many people are sarcastic, and like to joke around, and I know some people can be in bad moods, but that's no excuse to ruin someone's fun while playing a game... a game, not real life. Needless to say, however, I have joined a new guild that has not once showed such behavior (so yes, they do exist, if one guild disappoints you, don't let it destroy the whole guild experience, just find another that suits you better).

Also, pick your guild wisely. Since necros are evil by default (not to mention evil-raced necros), we are KOS almost everywhere (as we all know by now, LoL). Another drawback of my first guild, most were good-aligned, and last raid I went on with them, was to a place I was KOS at, since I was invised and Sowed almost the entire way, I totally didn't know, until it was too late, LoL. This can be a problem with many raids if you are with a guild that is mostly good aligned characters. Not to mention, that some of the raids could mess up your faction with the only remaining areas you were not KOS. On that same token, if you are like me, and wanting to not be KOS in as many places as possible by killing faction changing mobs, joining an evil guild might not be a good idea, either (although I have yet found out the extent of how many places an Iksar Necro can change faction to non-KOS). And one final factor, is time of day guilds. Find out ahead of time (if you can), what times most people in guild are on-line compared to your schedule. I have met some people at 3AM central time who were in guilds with noone on at that time, as well as those who were on at 3PM central time and in a guild with the same problem.

Anyways, apologies to the long-windedness, but I just like helping people out :-).

[Vavra]

I like being in a guild it can be fun and rewarding.. the best thing to do is start grouping with people if the person(s) are nice and are in a guild ask them about thier guild (I recommend doing this in /tell) see if they have a guild website and then go check it out read thier charter and rules then try and group with a few more of thier people and if you fit join them..

check out Guildportal (http://www.guildportal.com) this website has hundreds of guilds that are registered on it. they have a guild search you can use it to check out some of the guilds on your server...



ps. hey death nice to see a fellow necro from Bristlebane

[Mixylplix]

eq.guildmagic.com is another listing places for a BUNCH of guilds.

Look lets talk about "How do I find my first guild" I say My FIrst as in ALL likeilyhood you WILL change guilds.

1. Don't even think about it till after level 20. They are not going to want to deal with you, if they are worth anything, till you aer "out of diapers". Raiding Guild will not talk to you till 55 or even 60. "Ueber" guilds want 65 with 75 AA's.....

2. I assume that by level 20 you have made friends that you play with, or are you always soloing??? See what guilds they have.

3. Find a guild that has more then 50 REAL members. Below that you will never find more than 5 on and they are not going to be much value. PLAYERS, not toons... A guild might have 400 toons, but only 50 players and that is deceiving.

4. Play Style. RAID RAID RAID RAID LOOT LOOT LOOT LOOT.. Then find a top-end guild and hunt them down and find out what THEY want. You got to live by THEIR rules adn they will get you into the Elemental Planes. On Rathe Server the top end guilds are all well known to anyone that has played long. But they are ALL very serious and very uptight and require five raids a week are 4 to 5 hours PER NIGHT. You being getting flags adn loot like made, but xp is slow in a raid.

4. A. PLay Style FAMILY FAMILY FAMILY. Lots of chatter and talk. People turn EQ into a group hug chat room. Raid once in a while, but basically a chat line and a place to find groups. (this is my personal preference).

5. Guild Average Level. If teh average level of the guild MAINS (in Guildmagic yu can turn ALTS off) is 62 then you will not have any fun with them at 35. If the average is 50 then you might be ok.

6. TIME ZONE. My original Guild was heavy with people in Japan. I am in Georgia. That meant we hardly ever saw each other. There are Austrailian Guild, European Guilds. Find out where they are before you get invovled or you will just be frustrated.

Guilds are fun. They can be your family and pull your butt out of many a bad situtaion. GUilds are GREAT for farming Resaerch words (though they cannot be taught which ones are Mage only). Guilds are really agood thing. FIND THE RIGHT ONE. :rolleyes:

[Keystone]

ya like they said just get a feel for whatever guild your thinking of joining, group with members from it hang out with them at raids just be around them in general. Every guild will have a different feel to it, no two will be alike, some are really goodygoody like no cursing no this no that all loving and everything will be ok, others are full of assholes. Hell i love my guild to death thoroughly enjoy most everyones company and i think we'r pretty efficient at what we do but i'd be the first to tell you the vast majority of people couldn't take it, not because of the "strict guidelines" but because of the shit we always give each other. anyway that post got longer than i planned but just make sure you know what you are joining and that it's someplace you will be happy.

[Kandailu]

I currently am in a sub-uber guild on A Ro. We raid once or twice a week (usually twice). Most of our guild is over 50 and tons over 60.

As stated always look for the times, levels, rules, etc and find the one that fits.

[Nny]

With the release of LDoN, a guild is no longer required to get good gear. Casual players are able to get equipment that is very, very nice without the timesink of farming or having to rack up DKP.

For example:

Immortal's Bloodied Robe
AC:18, Str:13, Dex:11, Int:10, HP:90, Mana:110, FR:12, MR:12, DR:12, type1,type2,type3
Nec, Enc, Wiz, Mag

Thats a heck of a nice robe, and costs essentially nothing other than time invested to gain adventure points. I like LDoN over raiding and normal experience groups because I can plan my time much better than I could before. I pretty much know how many adventures I can go on in X amount of time. Its not open ended like a raid or an experience group can be.

The different types of guilds have already been listed, but in my opinion the biggest question to ask yourself when it comes to choosing your guild is whether or not you like being told what to do in a video game.

[cyberdragon]

well i am in a guild it is fun but some time it gets anonying because some people talk to much but that is not a reason to not join a guild my guild the bog brigade it really big it has like 632 members and it is fun i have some friends i group with and just talk to or ask for help and what is cool is every high lvl player i nice to me alot of the time they will give me handmedowns that i use or hand down to some other low lvl member they are very nice they will buff members for free or can help PL u and it is just a fun guild i am glade i join a guild u just have to find the one that u like the most and join u will have a great time that is what i think :)