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Omnius
09-15-2004, 01:29 PM
With the new level cap and even more valuable AAs, it's time to reexamine the conventional wisdom that levels > AAs. I pose this issue as a bazaar-geared 66 necromancer with access to VT (raid only so irrelevant I guess) and Tactics.

This is completely a non-issue to folks with pofire or kodtaz access. /who all 67 last night yielded about a dozen toons, and /who all 68 this morning showed a wizard in pofire.

I'm worried about leveling myself out of a viable AA spot. At what point do pit mobs sour for AA? Is 66+ hard LDoN likely to be popular? Should I stay 66 until I start getting 66 and 67 spells?

Persephonae
09-15-2004, 01:35 PM
I was in Tactics soloing a little bit to see how the XP was at 66. I generally do Diaku upstairs rather than "pit" but it was coming out to be 3-4 mobs per 1% of pure XP at 66. That was based on 15 mobs getting me 4% XP.

Was more than a little depressing, to say the least. <_<

Rikam
09-15-2004, 01:36 PM
Basicaly my plan is to grind to 67 atm and then go back to aa since less I can obtain the other spells no sense in having the levels. The balance for exp over aa was bacause the spells you would be getting made it easier to kite therefore made getting aa faster with the higher level spells. My war will be going straight to 70 as well my monk cle and nec will stay 67 till find out where to grab spells.

Omnius
09-15-2004, 01:42 PM
15 Diakus for 4% XP? BoT wasn't much worse and a lot easier in a group. :(

Tauruse
09-15-2004, 01:43 PM
During OoW beta all beta buffed to 65 Necros were given 26AAs.

Just saying...

I have no intention of not having what SOE considers normal before I hit 66.

I plan to get one kill away from 66 and then go full AA until I have at least 26 AAs.

cornflkeboy
09-15-2004, 02:23 PM
That's odd, I was in the beta and I was started with 300 AA's and some uber gear that I will never have access to.

Tauruse
09-15-2004, 02:41 PM
Originally posted by cornflkeboy@Sep 15 2004, 09:23 AM
That's odd, I was in the beta and I was started with 300 AA's and some uber gear that I will never have access to.
That's really odd.

I was beta buffed to 65 and like everyone else that played a caster and got beta buffed i was given 26 AAs to spend and the gear the buff gave me about 3.5k hps and 250ish int.

/shrug 300 AA is a bit off the norm

Rikam
09-15-2004, 02:44 PM
What self respecting necro doesn't have 300+ aa? I ask you who /presses "v" oh wait I mean uhm /run.

gnecrosis
09-15-2004, 03:01 PM
if u guys are doing normal aa in a pop zone ur crazy... mayb pofire but if u do an expedition in the FIRST OOW zone on the right side of the zone and find a grand historian get 4 people to explore a cave...4-6 people can get into the cave.... i was getting 1% exp at 65 though it was still good exp for the amount of people go agro kite in the oow zones farther in....the hit for 500 ish so run liek the wind:P

Rikam
09-15-2004, 03:15 PM
at 65 mobs who hit for 500 are jokes=). I worry about the mobs who quad for 1.2k=).

Omnius
09-15-2004, 03:18 PM
if u guys are doing normal aa in a pop zone ur crazy... mayb pofire but if u do an expedition in the FIRST OOW zone on the right side of the zone and find a grand historian get 4 people to explore a cave...4-6 people can get into the cave.... i was getting 1% exp at 65 though it was still good exp for the amount of people go agro kite in the oow zones farther in....the hit for 500 ish so run liek the wind:P

Silly gnecro. You assume people actually group there on my server. Pickup GoD and OoW groups are virtually non-existant in my experience. I was /lfg last night for 6 hours and only got guild invites, so Tactics may be my best option.

Persephonae
09-15-2004, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by gnecrosis@Sep 15 2004, 03:01 PM
if u guys are doing normal aa in a pop zone ur crazy... mayb pofire but if u do an expedition in the FIRST OOW zone on the right side of the zone and find a grand historian get 4 people to explore a cave...4-6 people can get into the cave.... i was getting 1% exp at 65 though it was still good exp for the amount of people go agro kite in the oow zones farther in....the hit for 500 ish so run liek the wind:P
I did the cave expedition in the first OOW zone last night.

Logged on, killed a noc to get 66, bought the extra spell gem & death peace then went to explore OOW a little.

2, maybe 2 1/2 hours of OOW including some greenies and light blues before the expedition got me 9% into 66... on the upside, 9% is enough to die and not lose 66, as a Death Knight that just would NOT get snared was kind enough to show me this morning B)

A solid group of 66s, all but 1 of us KT flagged made the expedition about as dull as normal Rujark LDoN. *yawn* I was carrying on an extended conversation with a guildie in tells and surfing the web looking for updated UIs on the other computer while we were fighting.

On the upside, for the moment at least, the trash loot brings in OK coin. Some junk weapons we figured for OOW Fine Steel sold for like 38pp to a vendor and a lot of the other stuff that I was figuring would be nearly worthless was going for over 10pp.

AnimocityStromm
09-17-2004, 04:56 PM
26 AAs to spend and the gear the buff gave me about 3.5k hps and 250ish int.

If you take 100 necros who have 3.5k hps and look at thier AA's, I'd bet 99 of them have alot more than 26.

Don't bother with what you think SOE considers "normal". if you want to level to 70 before you get any AA's, then do so. If you want to hold at 65 and grind 200 AA's, then do so.

najiwench
09-17-2004, 05:23 PM
Originally posted by Tauruse+Sep 15 2004, 02:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Tauruse @ Sep 15 2004, 02:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-cornflkeboy@Sep 15 2004, 09:23 AM
That's odd, I was in the beta and I was started with 300 AA's and some uber gear that I will never have access to.
That's really odd.

I was beta buffed to 65 and like everyone else that played a caster and got beta buffed i was given 26 AAs to spend and the gear the buff gave me about 3.5k hps and 250ish int.

/shrug 300 AA is a bit off the norm [/b][/quote]
were you looking at the aa's they already spent for you? my beta buffed toon had run 5, suspend minion, and several other aa's already bought and then 30 aa's i could spend on what i chose...after spending those i think it came out to like 297 aa's spent or something to that effect