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Vumr
12-19-2003, 11:37 PM
Is anyone else having problems with fear since the last patch. About 50% of the mobs I fear since Thursdays patch are warping across the zone. I have had a couple of them reagro me as much as 5 min after they disappear. I have done /bug but have not heard anything from Sony. BTW, I realized this should have been posted in the spells section after I posted it but don't see a way for me to move it.

Emperson
12-20-2003, 03:31 AM
i dont think ive done any fearing since last patch so i wouldnt know.... but that seems odd... anywho ill check it out if i can get back on (problems with connecting atm) and ill take care of moving the post bud.... GL

sintalon
12-20-2003, 02:01 PM
Never heard of that one. I havent feared in a long time. Ill ask around in game and see if any of my lower level necro friends have had the same issue on Luclin.

Xelgadis
12-21-2003, 10:42 AM
Since I pretty much live in the planes now, the only time I've used fear recently was when soloing boats in Dulak, which I haven't done since I was still using my monky pet. Can't wait to see what LoZ does to the Broken Skull... /snicker

Hexia
12-21-2003, 11:32 AM
There is defenetly a bug with fear atm.

I had mobs vanishing right in front of my face, happend to me about 50 % of the time, when i tryed to fear kite in south karana.

Death's Servent
12-21-2003, 12:49 PM
I remember that quest and complain. Yes there is a problem with fear. I tried kiting a few walruses in EW while fearing any adds. As soon as I feared that, they disappeared. I mean I didn't see them running away, they just vanished.

I wonder if it has something to do with the GMs playing a few tricks on us or if it is a problem with the patch.

Vumr
12-21-2003, 03:54 PM
I am glad to see I'm not the only one having this problem. I hope anyone having the problem is sending in a bug report. Maybe if they get enough of them they'll do something about it before the next expansion.

Majordeath
12-22-2003, 04:09 PM
I too have had problems with mobs dissappearing. Not just when feared but when they turn to run at 20% they poof. I had one come back to me after about 5 minutes. It came hauling ass across The Overthere while I was running around going "duh, which way did he go, which way did he go?"
So far it has occured in The Overthere and Lake of Ill Omen.

Jovhato
12-22-2003, 07:15 PM
I haven't had the problem with fear, but I have had the problem when, In the easy part of OT at lvl 18-21, I slow the mob and keep the agro on me. I can run backwards just fast enough to keep out of strike range (mob chasing me) while my pet hits from behind. I have lost about 5 mobs in the last couple of days this way. When they finally die from my dot, I get no exp for it.

Jolia
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Luvinman
12-23-2003, 10:49 AM
I have had a mob that was almost dead...running away...then poof he is across zone. Happened in Rathe Mountains and in dulak.
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Vavra
12-29-2003, 09:07 PM
I have had the same problem fearing mobs in DL when soloing, I was pulling the mob to KC then sick pet and fear next thing you know poof mob is gone, I can still see the dot messages going every tick and also see when the spells drops, then about 5min later here comes this major pissed off Drolvarg, who is so pissed off that my pet cant pull him off, have to resnare and fear him...

Emperson
12-30-2003, 07:18 AM
man that sucks im glad i got to the point where i dotn gotta fear kite before that

Doomfir
12-31-2003, 11:25 AM
I wager this bug was produced when they tried to correct some fear / pathing exploits that were being used. Like in ToFS, you used to could fear a mob on the bottom floor and they would ALWAYS run to the OZ mirror and just stay there running against it. NOW, he will poof and then return with friends. Good ole SoE, screw with a minor issue, and create a serverwide impact one instead.

KarmaKeeper
12-31-2003, 03:22 PM
i think there must have been a change as well because i know what your talking about, and its why i havent used fear except for SF and dulak in a long while. its too unpredicatable and the mobs mostly meanders back, with social aggro.

and yeah, thatd be SoE for ya

Xisbus
12-31-2003, 04:43 PM
/sigh
I found that bug last night in DL.
Quite annoying to say the least.

Reported the Bug, hope they get this fixed soon.

Orthene
01-04-2004, 07:04 AM
I have reported this bug like ten times in the last week. I was in Marus Seru a couple days back and feared a Stone Grabber, pop he disappears. Im like oh well that was weird. About 5 min. later I see a Stone Grabber that looks like its charging me, drop darkness on it and run back to pet. I turn around when I reach my pet and there are about 10 Stone Grabbers running past the one I slowed, looking to pound my gnome butt into the ground. Sent pet in (suicide mission) and ran for zone. I hope they fix this soon! :blink:

nethyia
01-04-2004, 06:00 PM
The worst part about this bug to me is all the experience I've lost. Was hunting in Lake of Ill Omen, and after losing the 5th mob to the bug with fear, started agro kiting. Then the goblins would disappear when wimpy level was reached, and no exp. This is becoming MOST annoying for me. No exp, no plat, just faction hits (already KOS to them, but still). And since the issue isn't actually fear, but just with mobs running away, its not just a Necro issue. And yes, I made sure to post a Bug report. Thanking about starting to send emails.

Nethyia, Wielder of the Dark Arts

Doomfir
01-05-2004, 11:21 AM
It is a server problem. I was fear kiting in Sky fire and had the same thing happen to me this week. The mob would poof then come back all pissed off later after my dots and snare had failed to kill him completely and with no snare. All I can say is bug report it often.

Xisbus
01-07-2004, 01:06 PM
Anyone still having problems with Fear?

Me and another necro were hunting in DP last night , I didnt notice any problems last night.

Parthox
01-08-2004, 07:41 PM
:blink:
New to forum ...Hello All
38 Erudite Necro

Has been happening to me all over Norrath:

Slate in EC <4 times>
Various mobs in The OverThere
same in Rathe Mtns
EW
Stonebrunt

This is on the A. Ro server and is starting to get frustrating. More so in EC when I pass through for some Slate bashing. :ph34r: Nice to be able to give some payback after all those beatings he gave me...

Have /bug many times and hopefully this will be addressed soon

Fizzleplink
01-08-2004, 08:29 PM
Vavra and I ran into this in Dreadlands some weeks ago, too. Fear > poof > 20 mins later he returns.

You'd think they'd count themselves lucky to have escaped the first time... silly dogs.

Orthene
01-10-2004, 01:47 AM
I've been hunting in the Overthere for the last few levels. And every so often the mob fades away and ends up somewhere else in the zone. It's still targeted and I still see my dot's doing damage. The worst part is the mob dies and I get no xp. I have reported this bug many times now since I last posted on this thread.

Mobs have teleported on me on when:
1) They are feared. :o
2) Root breaks. :(
3) Mob health drops below 20%, and they turn to run. :angry:

I am on the Karana server. Please continue to report these bugs if they happen to you. Not sure SOE will do anthing about it, or if anyone is even reading the reported bugs. But maybe they will :lol: , hey stranger things have happened.

nethyia
01-11-2004, 08:18 AM
Okay, it happened to me quite a few times today. I've stopped fear kiting altogether because of it, but killing Overthere, the Sarnaks, cockatrices, and cacti all run away when below 20%. I have found if they are snared when they reach that level, the stop, and don't disappear. So in order to make sure I get the experience from the fight, I waste the mana on a darkness just before they reach 20%. Still can't fear kite, but at least this way I won't lose the experience. Note that even if they are snared when they hit the running away point, if the snare drops before they are dead, they can still disappear when they start running.

Also, posted more bug reports, lost over 10% of experience to next level from lost kills.

Nethyia, Wielder of the Dark Arts

Cthulha
01-11-2004, 09:49 PM
Just happened to me in Frontier Mountains.. GRRRRRRR

Origomali
01-11-2004, 11:56 PM
I had the same experience as Doomfir in Skyfire.....figured I do some soloing and /occ any Cleric drops. I was using a combo Aggro/Fear tactic....have them chase me till 50% hp, then fear. Everytime I cast fear, the mob would warp and return later, healthier and at full speed, sometimes with friends. After a couple of FD's and lost pets, I decided it wasn't worth it.

Xavier
01-12-2004, 03:36 AM
As per told to me via a GM. It is not fear so you can lay this to rest. The problem is with the y axis. When you type /loc there are 3 sets. One is the y axis. The final number. This number states your height above and below flat ground. When you fear or agro kite and they get low on health they fall "through the world". This used to be a problem with players as well. Exspecially in ec where youd wind up underneath orc 1. And able to see all the people. They have corrected this problem temporarily buy allowing the mob to port itself to a safe spot. But it is still agroed on you so it will travel to get you. Sometimes bringing extra mobs. And sometimes not. If it dies while under this y axis you will recieve the faction but not the exp. The y axis is also the reason why in PoN necros and bards are having problems kiting to the left of the entrance. With the whole "you can not see your target".

Xisbus
01-12-2004, 12:21 PM
Hmmmm

Well the explanation does sound good however I have had the mob Poof and still be targetted with the mob still at or above 80%.
So I am not sure its the same situation as you ( Or the GM ) have described.

Cthulha
01-12-2004, 02:44 PM
How can it be a location/low health problem? I have only seen the mobs disappear when I cast fear on them. They literally vanish when the spell hits them. It has happened to me several times, and the mobs had anywhere from 20% to 70% health. And the terrain has been varied, from flat land to mountains. It HAS to be the fear. I have a druid friend that has never had a problem with mobs warping to other ends of the zone.

Schaeffer
01-12-2004, 02:54 PM
Cause I've seen this happen to MoB's that run at 20% when snare wears off. It's not just a fear issue, it's a MoB running away issue, I've had it happen in Dulaks and in LDoN adventures while they weren't feared...

Damifikno
01-12-2004, 03:28 PM
I have had this problem in DP....poof they are gone...also if I kill ,I sometimes dont get any exp.....This is on a blue con....I have to be close when pet kills to gain exp...If I let pet follow npc...once they are out of sight and pet kills...I get no exp

Cthulha
01-12-2004, 04:38 PM
It's not just a fear issue, it's a MoB running away issue

It is not just a "mob running away" issue either, in my previous reply I stated that it has happened to me when the mob was at 70% health. I am only stating what I have seen with my own eyes. Each time, it happened when the fear spell hit the mob. Obviously, there are a combination of factors here.. it can't be isolated to a single cause. I just hope that SOE gets enough complaints and fixes it.

Schaeffer
01-12-2004, 05:35 PM
Last I checked when a MoB is feared he's running away, no matter his health is at...

nethyia
01-13-2004, 02:33 AM
Some confusion seems to have entered this discussion. To clear up, the mob poofs when it is running away. This can be caused by:
1) Fear spell.
2) Low health (only some mobs do this)

So don't think its just a low health issue, if either of those conditions is met, the MoB will poof.

In quite a few zones, this issue can be a problem. It doesn't always happen. I've feared a mob several times in a zone it is known to happen, with no problems. Then the next day, 90% of the feared mobs go poof.

So basically, if you fear a mob and it goes poof, find a new zone, or stop fear kiting, till the issue is resolved.

Hrm, maybe a list of zones where this problem has been posted here:
South Karana
Lake of Ill Omen
The Overthere
Frontier Mountains
Eastern Wastes
Rathe Mountains
Dulak
Dreadlands
Marus Seru
Skyfire
Stonebrunt
Eastern Commons
LDoN
Dawnshroud Peaks

Dang, that's all over. Um, guess we just have to suck it up? Blah!

Additional note: after playing a while, it seems to be certain parts of zones. Killing with a group at skyfire ramp in the Overthere, and none of the mobs poofed, either from fear or running at low hp. I know they still poof around the dark races outpost in the NE corner, though.

Nethyia, Wielder of the Dark Arts

Toede Dragonlord
01-16-2004, 12:27 PM
/sigh
I was hoping that was only happening in a couple of zones.

Anyone seen anything official posted about when this will be fixed?

Havent seen anything myself .

Salizarr
01-19-2004, 09:57 AM
This sure is a stupid bug!!
I think we should all report it, like MASS report the bug all over the server and have to do something about it.
I could barely play this weekend due to this bug.

In my case, they only poofed when i feared them, be it below or not 20% health.

Add these zones to the list of "poofing mobs"

Great Divide
Eastern Wastes
Cristal Caverns
Mines of Nurga

Sal

Neante
01-19-2004, 05:06 PM
Hill Giants in Rathe Mountains will warp when the path you fear them makes them climb a tree :) out of the corner of my screen I see him fall out of the sky way in the distance.... There is a specific place they "pop" down at so when they warp... they warp there.
funny bug that needs to be fixed.

Doomfir
01-19-2004, 05:12 PM
You want to know a bad poof zone, go to dulak harbour and kill the luggald mobs in the tunnel there. Esp near the back. They go INTO the wall and your pet follows them. Next thing you see is the luggald vanishes and so does your pet. Has to do with pathing and collision detection of the game.

Salizarr
01-20-2004, 09:58 AM
I /petitioned this yesterday and i got an almost instant response from a GM in povar server.

She talked to me and she told me that it has been happening to her necro as well and she also thinks it is a pathing bug but not that many people have complained about it (shrug!).

Anyway, she then told me that a higher GM would contact me in a while to discuss that (i was really impressed). So i waited a few for that GM to contact me but it was getting late and i had to sleep in order to work the next day (im GMT-3). So i set up my trader in bazaar, make her afk and go to sleep. This morning, for my surprise, there was a tell window from the GM asking me to discuss fear issues!!!

My point in all of this is. If you haven't bugged this, please /bug it and /petition it on your sever! They will listen and hopefully, if we get enough people to complain, they will fix it ASAP.

Sal

Kilulisi
01-21-2004, 08:32 PM
Confirmed on giants in EW, the disappear when running away....

zzeris
02-13-2004, 03:07 AM
:angry: K even now the mobs r still poppin out. Really great of sony on fixin a 3 mnth old problem.