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Aargoth
05-18-2005, 03:23 PM
Hi all,

Recently joined up with a raiding guild and am finding the flag progression for PoP
to be confusing. This weekend, the guild will be raiding Sol Ro Tower to kill Solusek Ro. I have the Sol Ro Tower flag and on guild raids have killed 4 of the 5
"mini bosses". Now, my question - In order to enter Sol Ro's Chamber, do I need all 5 minis or just the Sol Ro flag? I have done a search here for the answer to this question and gone to the various links on the PoP Progression pages but the
answer doesnt seem to be addressed directly. I have also heard that the So Ro Tower flag will get me into the Chamber to kill Solusek Ro.

Help! Which is correct? If I have to get that 5th mini, I have 3 days in which to do it but it is unlikely my guild will go back to kill this one mini just for me. Therefore,
I will have to camp in Sol Ro in the hopes that another guild will be raiding this mini and I can go along for the kill.

Btw, we have killed RZtW and Bertox as well as Terris Thule. I dont know if this has any bearing on the answer but given the convoluted flag progression for PoP,
thought I would throw it in.

Thanks,

Aargoth

Schaeffer
05-18-2005, 03:38 PM
I have not done this, but my understanding is:

You can not get into Sol's room without all 5 mini flags UNLESS you get 'gimped' in as part of the 15% rule. I heard that once you kill him, the floor opens up and you zone into Fire. I don't know if you need to finish the 5th mini for Fire access, in order to come back to Fire after you leave the raid.

That being said, I'm pretty sure you'll be able to enter his room via the 15% rule and get the flag atleast.

aeriform
05-18-2005, 04:52 PM
It used to be that you only needed the SRT flag and could be piggy back up into Sol Ro's chamber. As of last October you needed both the SRT flag and all 5 mini's. I was (and still am) fully flagged except for one mini and once the 85% rule was broken (too many flagless) I left raid and did a log in log out dance. Can log in and do a minute worth of damage then log out again before your 2 minutes are up booting you from zone, then just log back in again, at least you can provide a little dps that way. Works better if you have a fast load time of course.

Brahman
05-18-2005, 05:46 PM
once willed into his chamber as long as you are solro flagged you wont get booted. You can will in an entire raid to his chamber as long as you have 32 people flagged. (once people that are will ins click up they have to leave the raid)

you don't need the mini's for progression.

Quezquotyl
05-18-2005, 08:51 PM
You don't need any Mini's if you are Sol Ro Flagged. Setup a group outside to deal with the local's, and one PK whom you will duel. Once you duel just die and run back to the entrance, then another Necro can summon your corpse down and rez you right into Sol Ro's chamber.

aeriform
05-18-2005, 10:49 PM
Sorry Brah and Que, you're both wrong. Thats the way it used to work, but they changed it late last year at the same time they added the alternate access quest to the zone. If you don't have all 5 mini's and SolRo flag, or all 5 mini's and alternate access, you will be booted from the chamber if you're outside the 15% rule. For my guilds last SolRo kill I got booted from chamber despite having 4 mini's and SRT access and elemental access, the trick you're mentioning does not work anymore.

Karae
05-19-2005, 04:12 AM
Originally posted by Quezquotyl@May 18 2005, 12:51 PM
You don't need any Mini's if you are Sol Ro Flagged. Setup a group outside to deal with the local's, and one PK whom you will duel. Once you duel just die and run back to the entrance, then another Necro can summon your corpse down and rez you right into Sol Ro's chamber.
Dunno where you got the idea you can summon corpses in Sol Ro's room, but you can't. It's never been possible.

Xislaben
05-19-2005, 02:08 PM
Originally posted by aeriform@May 18 2005, 10:49 PM
Sorry Brah and Que, you're both wrong. Thats the way it used to work, but they changed it late last year at the same time they added the alternate access quest to the zone. If you don't have all 5 mini's and SolRo flag, or all 5 mini's and alternate access, you will be booted from the chamber if you're outside the 15% rule. For my guilds last SolRo kill I got booted from chamber despite having 4 mini's and SRT access and elemental access, the trick you're mentioning does not work anymore.
You no longer need the Rallos Zek flag to enter Solusek Ro's room?

Does that mean that alt access to sol ro + 5 minis killed + sol ro killed = pofire access?

Can you really bypass Marr, Saryn, Tallon, Vallon, and Bertox? OR do you just have to go back and do those too after killing sol ro for pofire?

This is kinda funny:
"Solusek Ro was Charmed on Saturday May 29th 2004 on Ayonae Ro.

An enchanter was dead and a necro wake the dead on chanter's corpse. Boom, the pet charmed Solusek Ro makes it immune to all spell/melee/arrow etc and loose main tank aggro.

when the charm broke, all hell break loose. tank cannot get the aggro back, Sol ro ate the necro, ate the clerics and makes all melee laugh on bind points.

That was incredible experience!! we wiped but we had a good laugh :D

Tome was the dead Chanter
Symon was the Necro
Bombom was the bard who laugh at his bind point right after Sol Ro reach 2% and wipe us all.

Bombom Bombom
Fellowship of Dragons
laughing at Ayonae Ro "

Quezquotyl
05-19-2005, 04:06 PM
Dunno where you got the idea you can summon corpses in Sol Ro's room, but you can't. It's never been possible.

Really now? So explain how I got my Sol Ro flag before aforementioned changes with no Minis? You think you know its not possible, but it was at one time, thats how I got my flag. Don't assume something is misinformation just because you never did it that way. :P

I will also mention that when I got my Sol Ro flag, I didn't even have Sol Ro access(the zone or the Sol Ro's Chamber..No RZ flag yet), so the 85/15 rule might have been the factor. Who knows, it might not work now, but it did then (Oct/Nov 04).

Aargoth
05-19-2005, 08:26 PM
Ok, now I'm really confused.....

Do we agree that all 5 minis plus So Ro zone flag are required to enter the chamber without being piggied? From the various answers, that seems to be the common thread.

Don't know what SOE was thinking about when they put in this convoluted scheme to gain access to the PoP but without a doubt, they was smokin somethin!

Aargoth

Working SLOWLY Towards Elemental Flagging
Lvl 63 Nec On Povar
Member Of Wolves Of Zek Guild

Xislaben
05-19-2005, 08:40 PM
I'm going there soon to kill minis, doubt we'll get em all (even if all up), let alone sol ro too, but if we do I'll let you know. I only have alt access to sol ro, and one poj trial (execution) done for normal progression.

I've been reading what's out there, and it looks like Riziona is the hardest of the minis, at least in bard form.

Aargoth
05-19-2005, 08:46 PM
The 4 minis we have taken down were wusses. The only one I need is that Arixlia or somethin? Rizlona wasnt bad at all. Not when compared to RZtW, Terris Thule, and Bertox - now them was some bad mobs lol.

Aargoth

Quezquotyl
05-19-2005, 09:10 PM
Do we agree that all 5 minis plus So Ro zone flag are required to enter the chamber without being piggied? From the various answers, that seems to be the common thread.

Think you need RZ + 5 minis as I understand it from what I have read (Sol Ro Chamber). Its been a couple of months since I've paid any attention to PoP progression though and I could likely be misinformed.

Xislaben
05-20-2005, 03:50 PM
Originally posted by Aargoth+May 19 2005, 08:46 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Aargoth @ May 19 2005, 08:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> The 4 minis we have taken down were wusses. The only one I need is that Arixlia or somethin? Rizlona wasnt bad at all. Not when compared to RZtW, Terris Thule, and Bertox - now them was some bad mobs lol.

Aargoth [/b]
I just went there last night to kill minis. Getting to them seems to be far more difficult than actually killing them, and we didn't have any chanters with us, and only 2 clr.

http://img265.echo.cx/img265/9707/xiskilledxuzlblur6qj.jpg

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I will also mention that when I got my Sol Ro flag, I didn't even have Sol Ro access(the zone or the Sol Ro's Chamber..No RZ flag yet), so the 85/15 rule might have been the factor. Who knows, it might not work now, but it did then (Oct/Nov 04).[/quote]

I was told you can be 85/15'd into sol ro's chambers, so if you were 85/15'd into the zone maybe you were also 85/15'd into his chambers...

Xelgadis
05-20-2005, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by Xislaben@May 19 2005, 08:40 PM
I'm going there soon to kill minis, doubt we'll get em all (even if all up), let alone sol ro too, but if we do I'll let you know. I only have alt access to sol ro, and one poj trial (execution) done for normal progression.

I've been reading what's out there, and it looks like Riziona is the hardest of the minis, at least in bard form.
Rizlona's only "hard" part is splitting her from her 2 guards. Beyond that, it's a cake fight.