Veksar

[boonees]

Hi all, just wanting to see some of you others may have done the split of the 3 mobs in shop, ie where the rev spawns, i have yet to be able to get the rev who is the ph for rotting shop keeper as a single, and have found it difficult but not impossible to do the 2 mobs who come, once spawn is broken all is fine.
I guess there are several ways to try and manage the situation with 2 mobs, usually i pull with slow on the rev, and while they are beating on me cast a slow on the other mob, do a quick heal when im able (if i dont die in the mean time :P) then hit screaming terror on the add while pet is beating the rev down.
Any ideas would be welcome, tried rooting rev but ended up with all 3 mobs so have given that idea away.

Boonees 64 necro

[Jebasiz]

I Ivu to the staircase and make a pet, pull the PH with slow, eat/resist the HT and then tank both. However I used break the room a few different ways. 1, charm the one that adds(with WoT) and sic it on the ph/named, slow the mob and let him kill it, pet guard here....fd, stand and slow...then kill the one that was charmed (would be low life anyway) without a pet. 2. death's silence on add, you and summoned pet kill one at a time. 3. use force shield, and just charge the room(this is more recently, as the mobs are relatively easy for me now). I guess it depends on play style. I have never ever pulled just one...then again, singles are kinda boring =).

Jeb

[boonees]

Er ok, i just looked at ya profile, i can see now how you are able to take 2 on at a time with no probs, however im running around with 2100 hps and obviously cant take to much of a beating, eating a ht and taking a few beltings is ok for about 5 secs, then i have to do something, i cant afford resists or im a dead boonees, yeah i know i can go get a virtue, just tryin to be self sufficient is all :)

Boonees

[Jebasiz]

You can still mez and charm...

Jeb

[Doomfir]

Was fighting there with a dire charmed sentry the other day. It was allot of fun. :-) I don't use even CoB anymore there since the golems can chew him up pretty bad. Even ToD is hard to keep up on occassion with the mobs. A DC pet there however owns. :-)

[Doomfir]

Why arent you guys using the mez we get (death's silence)? DS them then shackle of spirit them and keep the one mezd while you smoke the other.

[Jebasiz]

Why arent you guys using the mez we get (death's silence)? DS them then shackle of spirit them and keep the one mezd while you smoke the other.

I used to...but now I just don't need to. I dot both(after shackle) and they die together...it's touching, really.

Jeb

[Doomfir]

lol.. You take more than double the dmg when you take two mobs at once.. shackled or not why deal with this? It gets almost exponential as the mob number goes up. Don't believe it? try to cast with 20 greens on you. All it takes is one to stun you then, and there are plenty trying. You get no spells off etc.

I much prefer to Mez a mob, shackle him, then root him, then shackle pull the second mob. While my pet deals with the one.. and I can keep my attention to him. I then hit the mezd one every now and again to keep him still till my pet finishes the first one. No mess.. no hastle.. and if he does break mez he is slowed already and easy to reroot.

[Jebasiz]

lol.. You take more than double the dmg when you take two mobs at once.. shackled or not why deal with this?

cuz I Can.

[Doomfir]

Happy for you but that doesnt help 99% of the people out there.

[Dalemar]

One method of single pulling him is to Screaming Terror the near one. This aggro's the PH, who you then pull to the top of the stairs and sic pet, slow, dot, dead. In the mean-time, go back down and slow the first one, redoing Screaming Terror. Then come back up and deal with the PH. Screaming Terror has a chance, however small, of aggro wipe, so the first mob may not even come up after you. If he does though, he's already slowed, so you can then either straight up mezz him, or if you don't have it, chain Screaming Terror, FD'ing when the PH is dead, or just tap nuke him while your pet is dealing with the PH. Up to you at this point.

I've yet to find a way to pull one with absolutely no aggro from the other.

[Jebasiz]

Doomfir,
I already posted how I used to mez/slow etc(which should help people)

Jeb

[Doomfir]

Originally posted by Dalemar@Jan 13 2004, 12:20 PM
One method of single pulling him is to Screaming Terror the near one.* This aggro's the PH, who you then pull to the top of the stairs and sic pet, slow, dot, dead.* In the mean-time, go back down and slow the first one, redoing Screaming Terror.* Then come back up and deal with the PH.* Screaming Terror has a chance, however small, of aggro wipe, so the first mob may not even come up after you.* If he does though, he's already slowed, so you can then either straight up mezz him, or if you don't have it, chain Screaming Terror, FD'ing when the PH is dead, or just tap nuke him while your pet is dealing with the PH.* Up to you at this point.

I've yet to find a way to pull one with absolutely no aggro from the other.
If I remember correctly, (though I might not), Screaming terror is not an option in the shop because most of the mobs are too high for it. I used to get a "this creature is immune blah blah blah.. when I used it. Is this still not the case?

I personally use Death's Silence (Mez / memblur) and then shackle of spirit and root. Each I do the same way in turn. I have yet to find one that agroed on me when I used our mez so I have virtually no adds. The hardest one is the shop keeper (not the rotting one) since he is on the wall right next to the first room and it is hard to get around the wall and target him without an agro. I have done it, but I can see the possibility of doing it and geting him on you before you can slow him etc.

The way I like to do it is to stand away from the door and use my F9 key to switch views and swing around so I can target him without being in the line of sight. Then I send in pet (after everything else was mezd, slowed, and rooted), and soon as pet engages hop around the corner and slow, FD, stand up, Saryn's Kiss, shadowbond to pet, ToD pet, remez the others and now I got everything under control. Be sure to recast Force Shield often when you get summoned just so you will never get whacked.

If you are inclined, and have the AA into it, bring a Dire charmed pet from the cubby's near the first ramp you come up. Sometimes you will try to charm on that is too high there, but just FD, and move to the next one. In one of the three cubbies at the first ramp into the undead you will get one. They tank so much better on the higher level mobs than even our 65 Pet it is really sweet.

[Dalemar]

Screaming Terror works on all mobs up to 55, and the only ones here that break that are the Wraith and the PH/Named. There may be the occasional that breaks 55, but for the most part the trash stays below. I mainly used Screaming Terror for those below level 63 who don't have Death's Silence, so they can do this camp as well.

But yes, Death's Silence, if you have it, is the way to go =)

[Doomfir]

The revanent in there also is immune. I tried it last night on him and it was the same responce " this charector is immune blah blah." I don't know but sounds like you roll the dice on the mobs with screaming terror on them in there. I suppose if that is all you have then that is the way to go.

I had the roughest time splitting them last night. For some reason the technique I used before stopped working as before I could mez with only one other coming. Now I get two when I mez any one of the three.

I am going to try pet pulling next time while I am FD in the far corner of the first room. I have used the technique of "fishing" with my pet in the past and it worked great. I am pretty sure this is a level thing though and someone lower may not get the fishing to work right. I want to try it in the shops to see if it would work.

Essentialy, you get as far as you can away from the mob you are pulling and FD.. then send in pet and pull him back just as soon as he enages. The mob follows solo. I think this ties to the pets no longer cause agro in and of themselves, and since you are FD you are essentially indifferent to the mobs, plus.. the level you are and the distance you are away from other mobs. I can't explain it, just that it works in many cases where you can't pull in any other way without adds. It isnt a silver bullet by any means, but it might be the trick for certain situations.

[Jebasiz]

pull from the bottom of the stair case, the 3rd won't add there.

Jeb

[Doomfir]

Very good Jebasiz. I agree the mob closest to the stairs will go solo from there and the ones on the top floor dont agro long as you stay somewhere on the stairs.

The only problem I see with this is if I still want to use my DC pet rather than CoB since I cant get to the stairs with him. If only we could IVU and still keep our pets.

[boonees]

Thnx guys, the easiest way i have found to do this was to lvl and get deaths silence :P go to bottom of stairs and send pet onto rev i then slow rev and mez the added shopkeeper, then a tod on pet and a saryrn kiss for me and a fp for rev and keep shopkeeper mezzed and slowed till im ready for him.
Thnx for all ya input, and ds rules:) as for words of torment i have had em drop from trooper murak i think it was and then promptly made a fp which i sold for the princely sum of 10k which i might add is about 8k cheaper than most sell it for.

Boonees 65 necro

[Jebasiz]

I got agonyx2 and torment x3 today in 3 hours. Congrats my guildmate's alts on their spells. I did however fail the 4th fp combine(I had torment x1 before). Hehe I fail 1 in 15 level 50+ spell combines though..I'm not complaining.

Jeb

[Vanadinaa]

ok this might sound dumb and i dont know i dont use them but we do get undead paci type spells ya know ever tried these or dont they work on mobs this lvl? ill havta check it out myself one of these days but hopefully maybe that helped :)

[Doomfir]

Rest the dead (last pacify spell we get) is only good for up to level 45 mobs. After that point we are SoL for pacifying mobs. I am at a loss as to why we dont get a much higher level pacify considering that Clerics, etc (anti undead) get them. Shouldn't the masters of Death get them even sooner??? This is one of my pet peeves about SoE mixing the class skills to the point they blur on who is suppose to do what. All I can say is send LOTS of feedback on getting an upgraded pacify spell.

[Jebasiz]

Their justification to not getting a higher level pacify is...we can feign death. In most cases they're right...it is enough.

Jeb