Horse

[Gondarionas]

So i've been thinking... i want a horse and a fast one but don't want to pay 100k... now i know i can get a horse from Seru .. but guild is past that and if we did i would have to blow alot of pts on it cause plenty will want it ...

Now i was thinking the Comms in Ssra drop a horse.. very rare right? and if so how rare ... and do i really want to waste my time?

[Rijak]

as someone who has killed more comms then i care to mention and never seen a horse... i'd say your chances are slim

the fast horse is very nice, i had one... but with today's travel options, i ended up getting rid of it 'cause i didn't use it as much, and also because it can kind of be difficult in group settings... the 10k horse comes to a stop pretty quick, but the faster ones take a few seconds longer to stop once you get moving, even over a short distance

ideally, i'd buy both (and may again one day)... but it's pretty far down the list... i'll probably do run5 first

[Felicite]

I think you can win the Drogmor equivalent of an Ornate Chain Bridle in the Casino.. might be a shorter camp.

[UsulDaNeriak]

regarding horses or dogmors (depends on your choice)
i know just 3 choices:

1. the 10 k (less with good CHA) for just sitting mana. which s sufficient from a necs point of view.
2. the 100k one, because you like bard speed and you got the plat to do so.
3. the one you looted in between.

and just to answer your question: YES, you are wasting time if thinking about these tools to much)

Usul

[Xislaben]

Originally posted by UsulDaNeriak@Jun 30 2005, 10:33 PM
regarding horses or dogmors (depends on your choice)
i know just 3 choices:

1. the 10 k (less with good CHA) for just sitting mana. which s sufficient from a necs point of view.
2. the 100k one, because you like bard speed and you got the plat to do so.
3. the one you looted in between.

and just to answer your question: YES, you are wasting time if thinking about these tools to much)

Usul
I always wanted the 100k one, and I finally have the plat after a few great days in wos selling drops in the baz, but I just can't bring myself to spend that kinda plat...

[Keeleys]

A little off topic, but that's a problem I've had more than once in the past, especially when plat was seeming like less of a renewable resource. There would be something I wanted, and I *finally* had enough to afford it, but I couldn't bring myself to spend that much on a single item.

[Rijak]

i also have a L55 bard with a nice drum on a second account... so i can get around real fast if i have to :P

[Gondarionas]

LOL yeah i know it's a waste of time i just thought about it cause i woudlnt' mind having a fast horse :) i have run 5 atm but why not go faster :) lol and the casino is evil i've blew so much pp there LOL anyway thanks guys :D

[Felicite]

Originally posted by Keeleys@Jul 1 2005, 07:57 AM
{snip} especially when plat was seeming like less of a renewable resource.{snip}
I agree with this.. I sell almost nothing anymore. And what I do is getting driven down by supply and demand. So. I decided to experiment with a mostly vendor money making scheme to see how I could do.

I would set the guild stone to the Twilight Sea (for 63p) and:

* Clear the Shadows island there. Generally always sell the Swirling Shadows in the Bazaar first night for 50p each.. generally get 15ish per clearing. Sell the other crap at the Castle (betcha I don't get 50p for everything else.. compulsive looter).

* Get over to the Vamp Castle, clear. I sell the General armor bits for 250p fairly quickly, the regular armor bits for 10-20p slowly, the Blood stuff is Lore and I have a suit so I kinda hope for gems, etc. Sometimes the no rec/req Katar drops.. this sells briskly for 4k which I treat as a bonus (and might be nodrop for you, not sure).

* Go to Outer Acrylia Caverns and burn greens. Loot just the Acrylia Runes (stackable). Some nights I loot the Acrylia Blocks which vendor for 31p each (so a bag is worth over 600p). And loot the weapons! The weapons sell for 143p each.

Once I am full I either Gate home for the night or I Levant to zone line, step out, Levant and I am in the trading output across the Grimling Forest. There is a merchant and a bank here. Sell, unload.. run back.

In a few hours I can generally make 3-5k from primarily vendor goods.

So.. if I was driving to get myself a Chain Bridle.. I could have one in a under a month (playing 2-4 hours a night) without relying on Bazaar sales.

Or, I could just farm Nobles` Causeway for a few nights for Runes.. if they sold.

Also I have learned that if I was smart, I would leave the Guild Stone set to Twilight and when my other selves are just relaxing in the Guild Hall they could pop over to Twlight every so often and make 500-1000p on Swirling Shadows.

[Gondarionas]

not to shabby i remember when i used to farm the hell out of the vamp castle .. not to bad.. leave there with around 2k in items and if i were lucky a few thigns to sell in the bazzar the katar and the cloak from the guy on the top floor...

anymore if i work both jobs whichs makes me leave aroudn 10 and get home around 10 i'll leave trader on all day and make a few k in stuff... i'm sitting with about 70k in the bank .. sadly nothing i really want and don't want to spend 20+k for some runes that i need to get still :(..

thanks for the advice i might just go run around and farm some crap havn't done that in a while :) AC sounds fun and i need some stuff for trades :D

[rukasak]

remember,

the price of runes just went up... and may sell ...

minor and lesser for fear spells

[Gondarionas]

Yeah i stoped in the bazaar the other day to look up a few lessor runes sadly i'm still missing pushed for 70 and been in don so much for augs and what not.. that i'm missing lower spells :(...

anyway got in there and they were 20 - 23k for a damn 67 spell :(

[Menaveru]

Not on FV.. There is someone that cut the price of runes, just about 4 to 5k each type. That and he has a huge stock of them. :-(

[shraklor]

for me to make some quick cash (for horse or whatever) I just set up forage bot in a DoN zone for a day or 2 while I'm working. Come back and sell silkworms and such for easy 10K.

[Aaelariea Shadowmoon]

I have been thinking of getting a horse for the mana regen.

One question? How fast is the 10k horse AND if I am faster than the horse (run5 or SoE or bard song) will the horse slow me down or will it match my speed?

Thanks much,
Elly

ps As I remember, there were stables in the bazaar to buy horses from. Is it just player bought now?

[Xislaben]

Originally posted by Aaelariea Shadowmoon@Aug 2 2005, 04:37 PM
I have been thinking of getting a horse for the mana regen.

One question? How fast is the 10k horse AND if I am faster than the horse (run5 or SoE or bard song) will the horse slow me down or will it match my speed?

Thanks much,
Elly

ps As I remember, there were stables in the bazaar to buy horses from. Is it just player bought now?
Yes you will only move as fast as your mount can when mounted. And there's a few sec to speed up to full speed and a few secs to slow down to a stop (unless you click the buff off).

AAS
10% - Run 1
20% - Run 2
30% - Run 3
40% - Run 4 (Swift Journey)
50% - Run 5 (Swift Journey)

MOUNTS
25% - Horse (ghostly bridle)/(bridle of Sir Ariam)
25% - Horse (rope bridle)/Drogmor (small drum)
50% - Horse (leather bridle)/Drogmor (drum)
60% - Horse (silken bridle)/Drogmor (large drum)
70% - Horse (chain bridle)/Drogmor (giant drum)
85% - Horse (ornate chain bridle)/Drogmor (glowing drum)
95% - Holy Steed (Paladin AA horse)/Unholy Steed (Shadowknight AA horse)

ITEMS
35% - Traveler's Boots
35% - Journeyman's Boots
50% - Fabled Journeyman's Boots

SPELLS
30% - Spirit of the Shrew (Shaman 29/Druid 34/Beastlord 39/Ranger 44)
30% - Pack Shrew (Shaman 34/Druid 39/Beastlord 44/Ranger 49)
34%(lvl 9) -55%(lvl 50) - Spirit of Wolf (Shaman 9/Druid 14/Beastlord 30/Ranger 30)
49%(lvl 39)-55%(lvl 50) - Pack Spirit (Druid 39)
49%(lvl 39)-55%(lvl 50) - Spirit of Bih'Li (Shaman 39)
57%(lvl 54)-60%(lvl 60) - Spirit of Eagle (Druid 54/Ranger 65)
65% - Flight of Eagles (Druid 62)
57%(lvl 24)-70%(lvl 50) - Scale of Wolf (Shaman 24/Druid 29)
70% - Spirit of Scale (Shaman 52/Druid 53)
99%(lvl 24)-115%(lvl 40) - Spirit of Cheetah (Shaman 24/Druid 24)

ILLUSION SPELLS:SELF ONLY
40% - Feral Form (Ranger 64)
42%(lvl 44)-45%(lvl 50) - Illusion: Scaled Wolf (Enchanter 44)
42%(lvl 24)-55%(lvl 50) - Wolf Form (Druid 24/Ranger 49)
52%(lvl 34)-60%(lvl 50) - Greater Wolf Form (Druid 34/Ranger 56)
57%(lvl 44)-60%(lvl 50) - Form of the Great Wolf (Druid 44)
62%(lvl 54)-67%(lvl 65) - Form of the Howler (Druid 54)
70%(lvl 60)-72%(lvl 65) - Form of the Hunter (Druid 60)

ILLUSION SPELLS:GROUP
30% - Feral Pack (Druid 52)
49%(lvl 39)-60%(lvl 60) - Share Wolf Form (Druid 39)
59%(lvl 49)-62%(lvl 54) - Share Form of the Great Wolf (Druid 49)

SONGS (instruments not factored in)
10% - Selo's Rhythm of Speed (Bard 25)
20%(lvl 5)-65%(lvl 50) - Selo's Accelerando (Bard 5)
64%(lvl49)-65%(lvl 50) - Selo's Accelerating Chorus (Bard 49)
65% - Selo's Song of Travel - (Bard 51)

Most bards with a decent intrument will be able to hit the max movement cap by level 50. The max movement bonus cap is 147% if I recall the number correctly.

[Unclean]

You'd be much better off just farming the plat and buying the 100k horse.

As far as where / how to farm that kinda plat, that's a different thread.

[Befly]

Originally posted by shraklor@Jul 26 2005, 11:51 AM
for me to make some quick cash (for horse or whatever) I just set up forage bot in a DoN zone for a day or 2 while I'm working. Come back and sell silkworms and such for easy 10K.
hows that work? if you wouldent mind giving me details

[nochtero]

If you have a decent tank one grouping seru is easy at level 70. Used to kill him with me
playing tank and a nuker, and friend playing his necro, wizard, cleric, cleric, mage, wizard, druid at level 65.

[UsulDaNeriak]

Grieg is also a mob doable with 1 or 2 groups. its a fun fight and he drops the 60% horse pretty commonly.

Usul

[shraklor]

Originally posted by Befly+Aug 8 2005, 04:07 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Befly @ Aug 8 2005, 04:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-shraklor@Jul 26 2005, 11:51 AM
for me to make some quick cash (for horse or whatever) I just set up forage bot in a DoN zone for a day or 2 while I'm working. Come back and sell silkworms and such for easy 10K.
hows that work? if you wouldent mind giving me details [/b][/quote]
I have a gamepad set up to press F11 using the throttle. Put forage bot in a zone somewhere safe, and use hide ability.

set up in Options (ALT-O) -> Keyboard->Macros the F11 to also press the 8 button. Have a forage hotkey in slot 8 with the following
/doability 2 (forage)
/pause 2
/autoinv

make sure you have plenty of food and water in first slots, come back in 8 hours to check on food/water inventory space.
things to watch out for...
1. you can be BANNED for this, though most likely booted, or suspended for first offense
2. you can die for this, first time I did this I was bound outside Dulak zone line, I checked in the morning and had 6 corpses in Gunthak and 1 in DoN zone. all with rez timer expired.
3. you will get a bunch of useless crap that might sell for 1pp, just delete it unless you know some alchemist that will use.
4. know what sells good and keep those.
5. keep vegatables, water, and such for brewing if you ever wanted to do that....