My rant section

[Vaelhan]

Well seeing as how jeb was talking about there bein a rant section i thought i should build my own considering the ammount of dumb shits on tunare and the total fun of pissing them off.


So here i go, first rant, feel free to post on this or post your own rants. This little rant just happened to get me removed from my guild but was well worth it. Here i am sitting in PoV outter a place i solo frequently with my other chars. (btw vael is currently 53) and this 65 pally comes up to my camp and starts buffin up to pull, i'm goin uhhhh whuts up with this guy right in front of my kite grp. we had a spare spot open so i asked him if he'd like to join us..... this is reply'd with no ty i'm just going to camp this, there are too many low lvls here to handle the camp. I ask him what he means by this and he says well none of you are even over 62, you can't handle this camp so i'm just gonna go ahead and take it from ya. All the while i'm telling my grp what he's sayin and they're just soiling themselves with laughter, good good stuff. So i ask him again what he means by this not being high enough BS. He reply's with your still in your low 50's go back to rathe mnts and kill giants where you belong, and i have alts higher then you , you little b*tch. At this point i ofcourse am pretty ticked, i get the same stuff every day of you being too low to be in pov go back where you belong, so instead of just sitting there and ks'ing him like i should i tell him well how bout i give you a spoon so you can eat my as* how bout you go back to pon where you can solo eh ? I'm ofcourse met with a witty comeback of who the hell do you think i am..... too easy right ? I didn't even have to awnser this one as the bard took it upon herself to tell him ''your a gay pally, why don't you go lay hands some little boy or somethin and get outa our camp'' So he leaves for a lil while then comes back, i had to say did the laying of the hands go well ? Oh and btw don't be tellin me that i'm too low when i can out solo you in this zone. he gets the usual pally attitude and starts his own rant/rave about bein too low again so i push him outa pov once more with the help of my UBAH kite grp. Now here's where it gets good, he goes and complains to one of my guild officers about how i told him off and shoved him outa his camp. Well the officer knew i didn't shove him out because i'd been there 5+ hours that morning, but he still tells me that i need to appologize to this guy for being rude to him. 1 i'm not going to appologize to ANY pally cuz none of demz got skillz they just sit there and take hits, nothin to it i have a 65 pally to, 2 he started it all i did was defend myself, and 3 he doesn't have the right to tell me where i can and can't solo or grp reguardless of lvl when he can't even beat me i a duel. so I go on with my day and after i log i go take a nap, when i get back low and behold i'm removed from my guild. (the officer was a pally to, i think its a conspiracy for all the pallies nowadays to beat down on necros) Oh well they just lost 2 65 necros a 65 cleric/pally and a 65 chanter becuz of it, time to join cynosure lmao.... ok ok i'm done /rant off and all that good shiz.




Vaelhan Hemafier - Tunare

[Jebasiz]

Sounds like that paladin and doomfir learned to play EQ together...

http://www.necrotalk.com/index.php?showtopic=425

It's truly sad when people don't know what other classes are capable. It sucks you got guildremoved over this, although...that other guild didn't sound like they backed you up a whole lot/were supportive.

Jeb

[Doomfir]

Whatever your guild was post the name of it so people will know NOT to go to it. I don't normally say post a guild name and remain anonymous, but the day a guild doesn't support it's members over the word of someone who was obviously camp stealing is one sad day. I wouldn't join your guild if the last one on the server if I had a char there.

[Sepulturah]

Vael, that sucks - your guild should have been backing you up; if anything the other guy should have apologized, being he was the instigator. And, considering he was lying about the Camp stealing, your guild (who knew he was lying) should have discounted anything else that came out of his mouth. Sounds like you needed a new guild anyway.

[Vaelhan]

Yeah well that guild was only a spot for me to hang until i got Vael's requirements to join Cynosure, I'll prolly just sit and wait until i have those now then join and /point and laugh at my former guild... and BTW doom you can suck my balls to i'm not putting the name of the guild up there because though there are some stupid people there, there's also good people and good friends of mine still in that guild. So no i' not going to put up the guild name on the boards.


Your lord and master.

Vaelhan Hemafier- Tunare

[Doomfir]

Suck your balls? Lol.. Take that back.. you are a prick and they should have kicked you out if you talked like that in guild.

[Tomandny]

Why the hostility?
He has a very valid point for not "bashing" his old friends.

[Doomfir]

np.. but he doesn't have a good point talking so foul. I wager he also did that in guild and they just didn't like him. I know if I was a guild leader and someone had a really sorry mouth I would warn him once or twice and then boot him.

[Jebasiz]

Doomfir, are you guilded?

Jeb

[Doomfir]

Yep. In Bloody Dagger Clan, a family guild. They essentially get warned a few times to keep their mouth civil and if they can't.. they get the left foot of fellowship.

My Rogue is in Ascentia and they are a little bit looser of tongue, but of the two I am greatful for BDC's lack of tolerance in this respect. I am 43 years old and get soo tired of listening to the constant sexual inuendo's and trash talk that gets bandied around in EQ. I wouldn't feel comfortable even with my kids playing if it wasn't for guilds that don't tolerate that. I have two kids who also play and sometimes we all group together and hunt.

[Fizzleplink]

My guild's pretty good about it. Occasional cussword is OK, but guild sluts/pimps/etc are escorted out quite rapidly.

Scary that one was married with kids... and still talked like a 14 year old showing off.

[Minael]

Okay, i am not going to piss off at you for just flaming people out of the blue he was just stating that you should post name of guild that left ya hanging, as a gesture to back you up and stand behind you, instead you go off at him, maybe you two know eachother? i dont know, but i find it funny you find it wrong they kicked you out when you were just in the guild till you got the requirments,. I was on your side till then mate, but why not just pull the mobs and keep your big mouth shut? thats what i do if someone is just going to buff up to steal my camp, i suck simple as that, most of time i can keep my camp sometimes a whole group just over throws me from a group when im in a competitive mood. so go suck my balls pls. JUST KIDDING! but seriously that was just odd that you went off at him like that.

[Fahllen]

Woot Rant Time!(Yea know you ppl are sick of me as is, stuck at parents house for the weekend making an outrageous number of posts to this great site).

Guilds, great topic...in fact the best for me--or the worst. Day 7 of EQ(yea sounds long but I'll try and chipp it up), I get a guild invite from what seems to be a good guild. Ooops, getting ahead of myself, aight lemme fill in some details. My real life brother has been playing EQ since almost day 1. He is on Mithaniel Marr in Afterlife, the #1 guild on that server blah blah...anyways I play so I can group with him or whatever(cheaper than long distance calls by far). I join this guild, which I do warn anyone not to join Castle Darkeskye becuase they have no good players and they are not honest and true to their guildies.

Ok so, join this guild day 5-6 into the guild I say something about my real life bro being in AL(AfterLife). The next thing I know every officer, GL, husband and wife etc.. start mouthing me about being a liar from Castle and from a few of their allied guilds. Becuase I dropped one of my brother's chars name and they have never met him. So without further adu` I get booted and have a bad reputation to all their allianced guilds within 2 hours. I mean I am getting tells of harassment, people who are telling me I might as well quit... petition report etc.. of course nothing immediate comes up from a GM. I send a tell to my X-GuildLeader and his wife that I'm not lying. Well GL's wife lays into me says they know all the AL people and they game with them on a regular basis.

One phone call to my brother, I tell'm, 5-10 minutes after I hang up I get tells from all the guilds I got harassed by-from officers and GL's of apologies. Also this little family guild went from 80-100 ppl down to about 40 after that situation.

Since then I don't believe in family guilds, and I have had a bad outlook upon any guild(no offense intended). Other than that anyone have some good guild stories?


Fahllen


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Quick edit, when I say no good players I mean in the terms of being or having ethics toward another player. Not to say I have had no good guild experiences I would like to note there are good guilds but they tend to be harder to find for me it seems....hints why I created a necro all to live in my solitude becuase not everyone shares the same opinion or outlook on you as another. To say the least I hope no one gets treated in the way I did, even though my story I tried to make short is even longer than what is posted. Having that impression within the first two weeks of being on EQ is a real downer. Further more, my worst example of a family guild is when a 10 year old cussed me out several times in guild chat and becuase the mother and father were officers I got kicked for defending myself(not by cussing). Again the result, more than 50% of the guildies left that guild. I really don't have alot of luck with guilds....

[Vaelhan]

LOL sounds a lot like CBT here .... they musta all moved to tunare !!!




Vaelhan Hemafier - Tunare

[Jebasiz]

/ignore is your friend...

[Sepulturah]

Fahllen,

I've only been in three guilds - one on Zeb and two on Cazic-Thule.

The Zeb guild was my first, and it was already a dying guild when I came in. Witihin a month of my arrival I was nearly the only one logging in, and those who did log in barely associated with each other much less reply to /tell or /gu. The guild message board was silent as the grave. Eventually I just left and never came back, to the guild or to the server.

The second I joined was on C-T, which I left Zeb for. Initially the guild was friendly, but the guy who invited me got booted out and after that no one really wanted to associated with me probably because I was still friendly with him (he was booted for conflict of personality with another officer). I hung on a bit, but being pretty much ignored, or worse, left behind in raid events and not taken care of, made me decided to leave.

The last guild I found, and the one I am currently with, is also on C-T. They were friendly from the get-go, and although they were still reeling from a round of officer defections to an uber guild (it was a friendly leave, but it left them without experienced core leaders post level 50 toons), the guild was still active and full of people with solid friendships. That's probably the only reason they survived. I've been with them the last eleven months, and the guild has grown and gotten seasoned again, with new leadership taking charge. They are by no means uber (highest toon has just hit 58), but there is a sense of protectionism for fellow members, fun and dedication among the core members (about 30+ core solid folks, and a bunch of less active players who are casual). The guild is the only reason I came back to EQ after a stint with Star Wars Galaxies, because I missed the peeps.

Definitely I believe the majority of guilds are not that good; cliques, self-interest, greed, infighting, or pure indifference are things that seem to be routinely mentioned by people I know in other guilds. I'd say only a third of the existing guilds have qualities that will extend them longevity to last through rough times.

Sorry you got burned - as a necro you can always solo, unlike the poor warrior or rogue. But do keep your eyes open - one day you might find a guild worth investing some time and energy into. I know if I'd let the first two guilds get to me, I'd never have found the friends I have now on Cazic.

[Doomfir]

Give you something of my guild experience on my two current levels.

My "main" was in a good friendly guild with my wizard until I really had decided that I was burned out and needed a break from EQ. I had been playing since 99 and just got tired of level quest and just didnt find enough content with EQ. So for 9 months I left the guild. I sold my wizard and got a laptop with the money. I never expected to come back.

Well, my kids both still played and I guess I missed grouping with them in the game from time to time so I decided to start playing again. I managed to get my rogue back off my account, but he was only level 55 and the guild now had a level 60 min requirement.. soo.. I leveled him quickly and rejoined my old guild. I soon found out however, it was about to be disbanded or merged with another guild because the guild leader was burned out leading the guild and no on wanted to help him essentially. Soo.. we merged with another high level guild.

After the merger, I was ok with the new guild, but it certainly wasnt the same one that I used to be a member of. Many of the members joined other guilds rather than merge so we essentially were scattered. After many raids for flags on our progression to the elemental planes, I decided I was starting to get burned out again. I was doing most of the CR on what raids we did, and doing some of the scouting on the pulls.

So I started the necro. I played him to 55 in under 9 days, and took less than 15 play days to get to 65. I loved playing the necro and played the rogue less and less. All was cool till one day I attended a raid to ssra to get VT key components. We were going alphabettically and when they got to my name they skipped over me. I inquired why and was told they werent going to flag "alts". I said alt? wth is this alt crud? My Necro was now more raid worthy than my rogue had been and I would like to use him rather than my "main" for old world mobs / flags. Even in the charter it stated they may ASK you to play an alt if that class is more needed in a raid than your main.

I posted on the forum what was with the main / alt title crap in the first place. Both of my chars are 65.. The way I look at it is whatever one is most needed on any raid is the one to bring. There is no main / alt.

Well.. the guild leader saw diff (even though HE was playing HIS alt rather than his main on most raids). I eventually said BS.. he was being a hipocrite. And frankly, I liked playing my necro more than my rogue. He stated that they contracted my rogue to the guild and not my necro so that was all she wrote. Welp... I told him it was a game, and one in which I was paying for and not him, and that if I wanted to continue enjoying to play, then I needed to play my necro on occassion. I wasn't trying to mess up the pop flag deal with the rogue. I would continue to use the rogue in the planes, but I really wanted to play my necro for the old world mobs. He gave me a rash of shite... so I left the guild with my Necro and joined a guild my son had helped start; where they didnt care what char you played long as it was approriate for the raid.

Now the guild leader of that guild just decided one day that he had had enough and disbanded the guild without telling any of the officers of people in the guild he was going to do it. lol. Just logged on one day and everone was deguilded. Talk about pissed.... Everyone was hoping he would log on to give him our peice of mind.. but only one person managed to talk to him.. and he said it was his to do with as he saw fit.. what a crock of ljl;. My son helped start it and the guild leaders would have kept it going with or without him.

My point in all this, the guild leader has allot to do with guilds as to whether they exist and how they exist. I got two jerks in a row for a guild leader. When you find a good guild leader... is when you find a good guild. People / officers may come and go.. but if the guild leader is a jerk all hell will break loose.

[Fahllen]

Good Stories! Not necessarily good endings but enjoyable. I will keep looking :P

Fahllen

[Sepulturah]

Good summary Doom...totally agree, the guild leader sets the tone for the guild.