EQ2.....

[Miltee]

I believe that EQ2 is gonna turn out just like Unreal Tournament, and Unreal Tournament 2003, UT started out as an amazing game that i loved very much, and loved the people that played... we all talked about how amazing UT2k3 was gonna be, and then when it came out it was one of the stupidest games ive played, i expected UT2k3 to just be a nice upgrade, better graphics, some new stages and shit... no they tried as hard as they could go put new moves, even better graphics, different play style pretty much, and i think they completely ruined 2 games, everyone thought UT2k3 was gonna be the best so they all moved over, which took everyone from UT, and then no one liked UT2k3... my predictions are that it will all turn out the same way for EQ and EQ2, just trying to be bigger better and being stupider... i for one will not be moving to EQ2 as i have worked to damn hard on Miltee to just up and either sell or cancel him...

[Umbrello]

And good luck selling with EQ2 comes out ;-)


I really have no idea what to think about EQ 2, havent looked at it enough myself to make a judgement yet, and its hard to tell until the game comes out. But yes, I agree its going to be hard to live up to EQ, and they could really screw it up.

[Sliderfx]

I am not going to eq2 either. I don't think it will be very good. It is just another way to get more money from us.

[NeSikWay]

I've not done everything I want with EQ yet, much less think about going to EQ2, right now I believe one online game is enuf in my life.

[Devlinn Deathcaster]

OK, EQ 2 uve heard not too much about other than you can customize ur class and ive seen some pretty cool screenshots. Ill probably end up playing both Everquest and EQ 2 becuz of the all access pass sony thing. 20 bucks you get subscription to everything but star wars galaxies. in my opinion SWG sux.

[Nigyl]

Everything I've heard about EQ2 so far makes it sound like a dumbed-down version of EQ1 for console kiddies (e.g. only instanced dungeons, and even 'instanced' combat so that once you attack a mob no-one else outside your group can attack it unless you let them, etc). The graphics look nice, but that won't matter if the gameplay sucks.

[Snowdarc]

They can keep it.If regular EQ folds,maybe i'll have a life again hah!
~Snowdarc

[Jebasiz]

No eq2 here

Jeb

[Zaldron]

alot of people like myself have worked to hard on EQ1 to just up and go to EQ2 dunno if i wanna give up everything and go to start over again

[necropheliack]

im also am not going to eq 2 it seems like every expansion they come up with and is released is messed up alot for a few months and all and i have worked very hard on all my chars and made lots of friends on eq1 and even my friends think the same way how i do also so in my book is totally not worth going to a brand new game and trying to restart as a newbie as it was pretty hard for me only good thing i can see from it is people wouldnt be able to pl there selves up to max level like they all do with this one and no more permatraders but other than that thats pretty much only good i can see coming out of eq 2 and that probably will only last a month or so anyways

[Shadowmana]

Gahh i have been dreading Eq 2 for a while me and my buddy were planning on getting it just because we thought every one was going to leave Eq 1 and it was gonna be usesless to play any more

but after we have asked around a little about 90 % of the people say there sticking with EQ 1 so i have been reconsidering and i dont beleave im going to EQ 2

although the commming of EQ 2 will make a lot of newbs becuase people are gonna sell there char's on the net and others are gonna buy them and POOF insta newb ( the ebayer ) i dont think you can buy Eq stuff on ebay any more

[Devlinn Deathcaster]

dude im so happy if i people cant buy crap off EBAY, its purty gay seeing a newb run around with a 65 SK that has access to Plane of time.

[Kzann]

Im going to eq2 to make phat moneyz z , =P

[Chaosfyre]

I for one (and apparently the only one in these forums) am looking forward to EQII. Yes, there are some things that I do not agree with from what info they have released, and some things that I think are probably going to be pretty cool. A lot of these gameplay issues will be changed and tweaked during beta.

I've rerolled a couple of 55+ characters without hesitation when I played on the FV server. I think EQII will be a fresh start and I'm looking forward to that. I am not expecting (nor should anyone try to expect) that EQII will be exactly like EQI. It shouldn't. Some people are thinking that EQII should be the same game but with upgraded graphics and that would be totally pointless. Why play EQII when you could just stay with EQI if it's going to be the same? From what I hear, EQI is going to go through a graphics upgrade as well in the future anyways.

Sure they've said it will be easier for new players to learn how to play the game but it doesn't necessarily mean that it will be boring. I was a little irked too in EQI when they started letting new characters have 20 enduring drink/food, a backpack, and be spawned right next to our guildleader etc. when before we'd start out with 5 regular food/drink and we'd have to find the guildleader by ourselves without any mystical paths or maps. But who truly knows how "easy" the game will be until they try it?

From what I have heard, there will be "encounters" of critters. You target one critter and it will automatically select the group the critter is included in. You will have to engage the whole group and it will have more of a real combat-type feel. It will not be just push auto-attack and walk away though you will have that option but it won't be as effective as actually finding the critters' weak spots and taking advantage of them.

About the instanced content, I think it's going to be a great concept. We already have that with LDoN...but just think of bigger dungeons with a lot more realism to it. Have you even seen the video with Lord Nagafen? You walk through a dimly-lit tunnel, suddenly you hear a big thump as something massive paces around in an unknown direction. Dust falls from the low stone ceiling and the torches tremble slightly in their holders in the walls. With the instanced dungeons you will get the feeling of exploring ancient ruins and the sense of being alone with no one else but your comrades to depend on if there's trouble.

With the locked encounters, heck I love the idea. With EQI, if you engaged first, the mob was technically yours. In EQII, if you engage first, it IS yours. No more arguing, no more KSing. But for those who actually like helping people who are in trouble, those unfortunates have the option to unlock the encounter so you can step in to assist. Granted, defeating the critter will result in less xp and less loot if you unlock an encounter, but it still is better than dying with nothing to show for it.

[Fizzleplink]

I'm looking forward to EQ2... sorta. I think it's a huge mistake putting all the races in at once, and having no real racial advantages :(

I'm also looking forward to Vanguard, Sigil's project.

[Chaosfyre]

From what it sounds like, there WILL be racial advantages (ogres will get higher starting strength, certain races will have improved vision, etc.) but they are trying to balance each race out so their bonuses will equal out for the most part.

[Thromia]

i'll give eq2 a try, even tho' it doesn't look that good. the environments are nice, and the instancing sounds good, but i don't like the character models in eq2 at all.

yup, it will be hard to top eq1--i'm sure it will last long after eq2 is released...

[Zarkdon]

i think that instead of trying to mess with a new game they should try to fix eq1. i am very nostalgic about the days when it was hard to get something done and you had to work your A$$ off to get it. now with newbie gear and the good and uber gears of velious and back being sold in the bazaar for 100pp its kind of dumb. i will probably give everquest 2 a try but im sure it will be just another super expantion ment to give people a way to get 3 or 4 characters up to the maximum lvl in 6 months and when u get them there u complain untill u get a whole mess of expantions being relieased every 6 months


i think eq is gay i think eq2 will be gay i play eq for lack of a better MMORPG when they come out wiht a good one its good by eq, eq2 SWG and any other sony game

end rant

[Fizzleplink]

Actually, EQ's still quite fun and challenging if you make it a mission to gear each character up on his own merits. If he can afford it, he can buy it.

I've spent many many many hours farming silks and pelts and other tradeskill bits of various types.


Hm. I'm not sure I have enough "manys" in there.

[Kompressor]

heh, will all the people saying that they re not gonna go to EQ 2, I think they should consider making it an expansion somehow : /

[Chaosfyre]

There are a lot of people looking forward to EQII, just go to eqii.com or eqlounge.com.

They won't have to make it an expansion. :P

[Xovian]

Won't be doing the eq2 thing either.

IMHO WoW > EQ2 anyday of the week.

EQ is a polished version of the original.. but it has bugs to this day. Most will never be fixed. If eq2 releases with bugs ( especialy after having so long to figure out how they want to do everything. ) its just another turd. You can polish a turd all you want, its still a turd.

In all honesty the same could be said for WoW as its not released, but given past track records who would you put your money on?

Just my two copper.

[Yirreni]

I personally am going to wait and see what the reviews are and then decide if I am going to go for it. If I do, it will be one of those things that you play it when EQ is down or friends aren't on, etc.

[Jebasiz]

I'm also looking forward to Vanguard, Sigil's project.

That's no joke there, although I won't deny a certain level of anticipation for WoW, Vanguard is where I see myself in the distant future, the thought of playing EQ II just seems stupid to me. I have 100's of days played in EQI I'm not going to redo all that just to see new scenery and mob names. It's quite apparent the staff at sony can't:

1. balance game play.

2. Make suitable game play for people at different levels of the game (not necessarily numerical level advancement, but overall character development) IE there's no lateral raid content for people who are content to staying at a velious/early luclin raid level, it's either progress to VT and elemental planes or be bored...where's a 2nd option...LoY was NOT it.

3. Additions to classes aren't well thought out....IE we don't need yet another group tap at an outrageous mana cost, we could of used a screaming terror upgrade though.

4. upgrade customer support, and/or answer petitions in a timely manner (EVER)

5. Release ONE expansion without massive amounts of patches and server down time.

6. Fix existing bugs.

7. Fix server stability.

8. Fix frame-rate issues that ARE server-side.

9. Develop classes from one expansion to the next with any type of consistency. (abjuration based dots was a nice kick in the balls).

10. and the single most annoying practice of SOE is nerfing. If you make a mistake and 1000s of people gear, hunt/farm, and dedicate huge amounts of effort to acquire an item/ability(or even something easy like a pre-cos) they should not take it out of the game, or change it. Manastones...same deal. They need to think gear/abilities through before introducing it to a live server, not remove it after they notice it gives certain people a big advantage. That's like playing monopoly and having the banker change the rules after you just put 3 hotels on boardwalk...

[Rybbs]

As for me I am Not anticipating moving on to Another EQ mess. I quit EQ for 2 years and recently returned just to find SOE Still hasn't got things "right" . After all this time you would think they would have improved the functionality of the gameplay instead of investing so very much time and effort in creating new scenery and some new mobs. As for the patches...Oh PLEASE get a friggin clue !! What in the world do they test anymore? One patch then 5 more to patch the patch all because they pay NO attention to detail. If we all did our R/L jobs at this level of competence ( or INcompetence) we would all be out on the street ASAP ! The constant 2-3 hour wait to login After said patches is beyond ridiculous. Ok Rant over ,hehe. No not goin anywhere near EQ2 unless I am totally convinced SOE has finally straightened out their house. Lets face it they collect about $5 MILLION per month on this games subscriptions...don't tell me they cannot BUY a few GOOD programers instead of crying broke. Ok Rant REALLY over now LOL thanks for your patience B)

Rybbs

[Gieger]

I think i'd rather to go to FF XI or WoW before i'll go to EQ2....I jsut don't think i could sit down for even more time on a game whose "creator" can't even keep it running right for a week, let alone throughout multiple expansions.....i'm starting to think of moving onto a different game at the moment as it is. I'm a casual player and nowadays, you CAN'T be a casual player if you want to do anything in this game.....it just pisses me off that in the last 3 expansions there hasn't been ONE thing for anyone under the lvl of 30 (Besides LDoN, but even then, i can't get into an adventure at lvl 23 unless i wait for 2 hours just to pull a group together)

The highest leveled character i've EVER had in my 3 years of playing EQ is a lvl 42 Shadowknight that i still enjoy playing. My only problem is that i either have to solo with all of my characters or hit n00b centrel aka. Paludal.

I do wish they'd make an old world server though....sort of like that Discord server they had going for awhile. Make it non-pvp, take out the death rule and i'd be playing on that server nonstop.....although i use it all the time, i despise PoP and Luclin. THey ruined the game in my opinion. True, it's nice to be able to level up faster and move around, but it nearly eradicated the aspect of Faction because if you don't need to be near the city-zones, just hit a book and you're off. Travels nothing huge anymore, i get to everywehre i want to go in a matter of 5-10 minutes tops. I remember when it took me hours to get from Qeynos to Freeport, let alone Erudin to Ak'Anon but the funny part was.....i ENJOYED doing it because if felt like i ACCOMPLISHED something by doing it. It was the thrill of running a lvl 10 character through higher leveled zones without dying, or getting aggroed by a griffon and praying to god SoW doesn't fade. /sigh Well, that's my opinion about this subject....they've ruined this game so i guess they have to make a new one to destroy. /rant off.



Thanks for listening to the rantings of Thraxxor hehe. Have fun and stuff.

[KeeL187]

I have changed my mind about EQ2. I think I might just switch over and try it out. I am really tired of all the shit I have in EQ, it would be nice to start fresh and call myself a noob again! Anyway, I don't know if I will even stick with it after Vanguard and or Middle Earth Online (i wanna be a cool hobbit damnit! Not no sissy EQ hobbit!) Anyway the more I hear about EQ 2 the better it sounds. I love how they are doing voice over effects on the npcs and I like the whole combat system. I think it will be a good game, but I think it will be almost a "fad" game that lasts 2 months and everyone moves on. Bad idea SoE fix EQ first!!!!!!

[Chaosfyre]

What it seems to me is that SOE seems to be giving up more and more in EQI in favor of EQII their golden child. You've got to admit, it'd be easier to start from scratch with a better engine and a better arsenal of options available than try to keep an old boat afloat. It's also apparent that EQI cannot compete with the newer games coming out very soon.

They have said that the game will be a lot different than just EQI with newer graphics (like I said before, EQI will have some graphic upgrades anyways). Yes, it's SOE making this game and yes, it hasn't come out yet so we cannot pass judgement on it but I'm still looking forward to it. A lot of released info so far appeals greatly to me.

They've said that the game will have content for both the powergamer as well as the casual. There will be single mobs for people who feel like to solo every now and then and multiple encounters for groups. There are different player groups such as fellowships, families, and guilds.

Fellowships are small groups of 6 or so that you group with regularly. They can share experience. When a fellowship member is offline they still get gain a fraction of experience made by the rest. Families are those casual/family guilds of EQI. You share a surname and have the abilities of guilds in EQI. Guilds are larger groups that compete with each other for the favor of their city. They can get a guildhall. Some of them are instanced but a few actually sit on Norrathian ground (you earn them by gaining favor with the city) so people can walk by and see your guild's banners flying high.

Your prestige individually within your patron city will earn you respect from fellow citizens (they will bow or salute or scorn you depending on your reputation) as well as perks from the various factions. Like Keel said, the npcs have voice-overs and will actually come to you if they have a quest they need done.

They will have static and random spawns which are all controlled by the population-specific dev team that will reduce camping. You will regenerate hp and mana quicker when you are not in combat so that reduces downtime. The bigger mobs (like dragons etc.) will require a lower number raid size which not only means that player organizations other than powergamers can take on these high end beings but that more people will have to know what they are doing if the raid is to be successful instead of zerging.

I do not mean to sound like a fanboy (or fangirl in my case :blink: ) nor do I think like one. I still have my doubts of course and they will not cease until I can see the game for myself. So far their designs sound right...let's see if they can deliver. :)

[Xebitikz]

http://www.meo.com

In my opinion if they do this game right it will absolutley grab me by the balls in a way EQ never has (and o does EQ have me by the balls :( ). Anyways If EQ ever gets discontinued I highly doubt i'll be in line for Another SoE game. I'll more than likely just skip EQII and try MeO or WoW. I love everquest, not SoE. Eversince SoE took over from Verant EQ has been nothing but a downward spiral imo, and I dont want to be apart of another recked, buggy and glitchy game build by them end of story.

O yah another cool thing about Meo is the interactivity the developers are having with the players. They let you know exactly whats going on and want to know your opinion so only the shit you wanna see in there game is gonna be in there. Cool idea if you ask me.

LLLoTR!!