When officers go bad part I...

[Umbrello]

Well, I was sitting in PoN tonight exping. When the most frustrating, anger enducing thing happened to me. I will explain from the beginning...


I heard a shout in PoN saying, "53 necro LFG".

I replied /ooc "Why dont you solo, youre a necro should be no problem." I figured maybe he didnt realize he could solo there, so I could give him a few pointers or send him to the guide I wrote here on NT.

So he replies, /ooc "I go LD every time I solo, and stop posting on castersrealm."

This instantly put my faction with him from amiable to threateningly within seconds. I responded /ooc "I havent posted on castersrealm in 2 months, so screw you"

he says, "you post in every spell, it vexes me."

so I take things to tells, and I say "listen, i havent posted since i started the site, and i dont give a fuk if you dont like it, fuk off!"

I realize my actions may have been a little bit...overboard, but I dont take people barking orders at me well, especially somone who I was trying to help out. So next thing I know, I see..."You have been removed from Dark Offspring." I had no idea he was an officer, but that made me even angrier. What gives him the right to disband me over some dispute HE and I had over something he started. Since when is he the judge and the jury? Just because I cussed him out for talking crap over OOC for something that he has no right to bitch about?

Okay, yes, I realize I did post in each spell to help get necrotalk started. And I'm sure it could be annoying if you for some reason couldnt ignore it. BUT, I only posted once in each spell, and I havent since. He thought I had been reposting over and over spamming the site completely. Spam is unsolicited or unwanted information being forced upon you. I was posting only in the necro area, to let necros know about a new site. Eitehr way that isnt really the point here anyways, just figured I'd mention that fact as well. For those of you who were bothered by my posts on castersrealm, I apologize to you now. It was merely to get the word out and get things rolling on this site.

As for the guild officer who removed me, despite teh fact that he's a fellow necro, I am very upset and I feel he abused his power and acted quickly and without judgement. He had no right telling me orders like "stop posting on castersrealm" over /ooc. And I had the right to tell him "screw you", guilds shouldnt be a dictatorship. When you get some ahole kid guildremoving people for getting angry at him for something non guild related. Ive never had a problem with anyone else in the guild, and there are others on this site who can vouch for that.

anyways, enough said. I got a reinvite already, and i'm gonna stay in for awhile maybe, depending on how they deal with the issue.

Your thoughts?

[Jebasiz]

I'd tell him to fuck off again. What and where you post and do with your time is none of his business. He could ask you to stop posting on a forum if your representing you guild or came off that way, but if your not expressing your concerns as Dark Offsprings representative and speaking for them, I have no idea why he'd try and say shit about it. I've also come to the conclusion that, it's better not to offer advice until it's requested. If the suck ass necro can't solo, A) it's useless to give him advice, he'll still suck anyway, B) he wants to group cuz he knows he sucks C) well I only had two points.... You seem like an intelligent guy, why be guilded with people like that? Also my signature doesn't work, why not?

Jeb

[Death's Servent]

it should have been dealt with thru tells but I can add to that story. Had a female officer try flirting with me, I didn't care about it but I told her that I don't flirt with married woman since it can cause alot of problems. Well that comment got me on probation with my old guild when the guildleader returned from a holiday leave. It did piss me off that they would hold a trail for me without letting me explain my actions on the charges that were brought against me tho I have no clue as to what are. Now I got a good bit of that guild trying to start crap with me over stupid things.


I have to agree with Jeb on the advice offering. I got cussed up and down for giving suggestions on matters.

[Umbrello]

Well I got a reinvite, and then logged back on today and i was out of guild again.

Seems like the guy guildremoved me again after i logged. Fuck this guild, that is no way to treat members. I talked to the guy who gave me a reinvite, and he's like well it wasnt very nice what you said eitehr was it? I told him, It was completely unrelated to the guild and if this is the way DO is run, then maybe I dont want to be a part of it.

GRRRRR.

Why do guilds have to be so lame? I dont even know who the guild leader of DO is, or if he even plays EQ anymore. Maybe thats the problem, no one to keep all the officers in check.

Anyways I'm about to apply for a new guild, but Ive heard bad things about this one too. So I'll give it a go, and if it sucks I guess i'll just go guildless, or start my own heheh.

[Death's Servent]

GL on starting your own. I can tell you from experience - try to keep your emotions out of any decision making, more then one leader isn't always good (I mean more then one person making all the major decisions).

[Jebasiz]

I don't think starting a guild now would be easy, or something I'd do on a whim. EQ's player base has more then likely already topped out, and will decline alot once Word of Warcraft and EQ2 launch. A guild (to me) is a semi-permanent commitment you make to everyone involved, and in turn they make to you. I don't foresee new players, sticking around long once all the old-timers leave due to lack of new content.

An established guild that's been around for 2 years or so, that has allowed people the time to build strong friendships has a much better chance at having people staying in EQ1(to them, the guild and the people in that guild are more important then the actuall game), and I think joining one of them (although difficult) is the way to go, they also tend to treat you better due to the emphasiz being on the people of the guild, not what you can do for the guild. New guilds are often times used as a stepping stone for people who want to join such-an-such guild, but don't meet the requirements yet, or "I got lonely and will hang here, until the guild I want needs my class again" I'd want to be guilded with neither of those types of people, personally.

Anyways I'm about to apply for a new guild, but Ive heard bad things about this one too.

I'd wait...Alot of guilds won't express interest in someone that is wearing a guild tag. I personally think that's a very good practise, but being deguilded for only 1 day really isn't enough time for alot of people to notice. Ask your friends how their guilds are(if you don't know) and see if one of them is the right place for you. The most enjoyment in this game with me, is spent with people who I enjoy being around the most. You'll probably be happier if you apply to a guild where you already know people. If that doesn't work. Most servers have a general board where people will talk or rant about anything pertaining to people of the community, or game related issues, guilds KS'ing guilds, people KS'ing spawns, camp respect... alot of the topics we read here, but with names and FU's and finger pointing. Some of it is kinda amusing to skim, although most of it's hearsay and rumor. Typically though, guilds may post their recruiting classes and levels there, also...if you see people posting "thank you" after "thank you", and "such and such guild rocks", and you think you "fit the bill" to recruit for them, it's probably a guild that's gonna be reasonably successfull and full of some nice people, or just browse your servers guild listing and see who needs what, and group with people where you can recruit to, and make an INFORMED DECISION Recruiting SUCKS, try to do it as few times as possible.

Jeb

[Aryse Andenter]

Hey Umbrello.... You should talk to me in-game, because if you are talking about the DO officer I think you are, then I'll have some news that will please you - but I do want to confirm what officer this was.

btw.... Dvus, our leader, is not going to be back for a few months, and he's just turned leadership over to me for that time. Our guild is sort of functioning as a dictatorship... only with me/leader as dictator... if I don't like what officers are doing I have final say, doesn't matter what they think. Right now Dvus and I are keeping in pretty close contact about guild stuff and I'm trying to piece everything back together that has been lacking while he was gone.

Join our new website Dark Offspring (http://www.guildportal.com/Guild.aspx?GuildID=12285&TabID=102007) to bring issues like this to my attention faster.

Sorry I didn't hear about this earlier. From what I can tell from your post, the worst you should have gotten was a language warning if that was in /ooc. Although you can use whatever language you like in /gu, and I can't imagine any of our officers would ever care about /ooc language rules.

Hope we can resolve this without losing you for good... I can officially let you know that you are NOT on our guild don't invite/blacklist.

And a guild that has a necro for a leader has to be good, right?



oh... and PS - my opinion on the soloing issue... I couldn't solo PoN on my old computer because the lag in that zone was worse than pok... nearly equivalent to bazaar, actually, don't know what it was. Still, all you have to do is explain that and leave it be.

[Jebasiz]

oh... and PS - my opinion on the soloing issue... I couldn't solo PoN on my old computer because the lag in that zone was worse than pok... nearly equivalent to bazaar, actually, don't know what it was. Still, all you have to do is explain that and leave it be.

Turn the sky off.

Jeb

PS. Sky, Sound and in some zones (pofire in particular) particle effects will lag even great computers givin enough people in zone(and I don't mean 150+, closer to 70)...tune down some options, and ponightmare is well less nightmarish when it comes to lag.

[Umbrello]

Well thank you Aryse, if anyone could calm me down it seems you are it. Like I told you in game, Its good to see a female in charge. I dont care what they say, we need a little estrogen and rationale to keep the testosterone levels in check. <_<

Just dont let the power go to your head as well! ;)

Depending on what happens with anguish and how other things work out I may look into DO again. We'll see, if not I know it will improve under your rule! Good luck as guild leader of Dark Offspring, and congradulations!

[Shadowmana]

im glad you posted on the bords at casters realm Umbrello thats how i found this sight and i m sure im not the only one

also i was on my brothers account and i sayed hello in guild they dident recognize him cause he haddent logged on in a while saw my level and poof disbanded i mean how do they know i was an alt of the guild leader ? what ever

any one on the tribunal server that needs like 3 K and some nice gear ??

warrior and enchanter stuff

[Aryse Andenter]

Heh, on my old computer everything was turned off... sky, spells/particle effects, clip plane down, models turned off, I played without any sound, etc. etc. ad nauseum. Nobody believed me that it still lagged that much :) I got lost all the time because I couldn't see very far in front of me, couldn't pull in a lot of places cuz I wouldn't be able to see other mobs that might agro, etc. I even got weird lag blips... I got the kind where it was as if you were stunned, and I also got the kind that it kept running for a few seconds while my screen didn't change and I had no control. Got into lots of trouble that way :D

Now that I have a pretty new puter I am ready to try and solo in PoN again... wish me luck on this one!

[Origomali]

De-Guilding....argh, happened once to me by a GM I had a spat with....nothing the Offcers or I had anything to do with...was back in Guild ASAP.

Now, I am in the oldest Guild on my server...but we are far from being in the top 10 as for raiding/zone access.....we are a family Guild.

I know not the particulars of what was going on with the officer who dumped you or even if he/she is still an officer/member......but I know, as a Necro, long standing EQer and generally a well known character.....finding a new Guild would be quite simple. I know of at least 3 of the top 5 raiding Guilds would take me in a heartbeat...even if I didn't meet their minimal requirements.

Now, if I followed this correctly, you were dropped twice.

Hmmm....I don't know of any Guilds that would let any officer summarily de-guild anyone without a council vote. In my opinion, this Guild is lacking some basic fundamentals......and yes, I can say that as having been a Guild Leader many moons ago on another server.....a Guild that is still going strong to this day.

I hate sounding vindictive.....but if it were me, I'd seek out another Guild, or better yet, let them seek you out by your actions and abilities while grouping.

BTW....Umbrello, I found this site via your postings...thanks and FO to that turd necro who can't solo.

No offense Aryse, none of my negative comments are directed towards you.

One question....was this Necro who de-guilded you an alt not listed in the Guild Roster?

[Aryse Andenter]

I really get the feeling form reading some of the posts that the guild situation on Sullon is quite different from other servers (what isn't different on Sullon :rolleyes: ). All I can do is laugh and shake my head at the concept of a council vote to deguild someone. That's sure not going to happen here. And Umbrello, I hope you know as well as I do that DO runs things the same way the other evil guilds do...

Still I am trying to get some control over the officers, walking into leadership and not knowing a lot of them is hard... There are some I've never seen online during my playtimes. Plus, as a feeder guild, there's a lot of alts from the parent guild as officers and members who want input - in some ways we have too many officers, and in other ways not enough.

I have confirmed that it was for swearing/disrespectful language that you were removed, which is technically a temporarily removable offense, however you should have received an explanation and there is no excuse for a second removal, only a blacklisted player is supposed to be continually removed, and an officer can't blacklist without the leader's approval (Dvus is actually making the final say on these, I'm too softhearted for it :) ). The officer was demoted for mostly unrelated reasons at the same time that this happened... just a day too late I guess :(

There aren't many guild choices at our level, so I hope that you do succeed in moving up to the next level in your app to Anguish. If not, well, you're only real choices are AL or DO - I've been in both and DO is my choice, but it never stops me from grouping with anyone. You're always welcome back in DO anytime, and to group with me :) And any evil guild on Sullon accepts just about everybody except for Hate... and even they reject very few. You should be able to take your pick.

BTW - If anyone on Sullon does want a breakdown of guilds.. I move my twink around a lot to get a good feel for what is out there... CP RE Igglebound AL DO, and a few others I can't think of atm, not to mention Hate/Anguish connections. Ask away.

[Jebasiz]

Sullon sounds like a whole different game. I enjoyed our conversation the other day aryse, thank you for the insight and your time =)).

[Origomali]

Aryse,

Still I am trying to get some control over the officers, walking into leadership and not knowing a lot of them is hard...

Though I never had that particular problem, I understand it and commend you completely......one of the reasons I left EQ for a while was due to the amount of work involved running a Guild on top of trying to play EQ which was no longer fun or acceptable as a family man. When I decided to return, (for pure enjoyment only), I did so to a new(er) server (2 years this month) with a fresh start and different objectives.

[necropheliack]

i to found out about necrotalk.com through eqcastersrealm.com and it has helped me in lots of ways also found out about the serverwide channel thingy there and for the thing with ur guild it is unfortunate a guy would flip out about sumtin stupid like that and i agree with jeb i would have told him to fuck off again also but then again i probably would have took my 62 monk or 54 bard and train everything in the zone and make him delevel a couple times hehe but thats just me and i only do that stuff if someone has been riding my ass for a long time

[Aryse Andenter]

Man oh man there are some people I would really, REALLY, like to do that to, especially today. It's been one of those days. ARGH!!! Just had to let that out of my system.

And heh, found out about necrotalk.com from Umbrello, lucky to have him on my server :D

And Jebasiz... you should really talk to someone from Hate, cuz the end game on Sullon is the part that varies the most from other servers. One guild has absolute control over everyone else's access. I can't answer that kind of stuff in detail - but just wait til I'm 65 with 150 AAs and I can join them :rolleyes: I enjoyed talking with you.

[Cristo]

If you didnt post on castersrealm i wouldnt have found this site or ever joined the chat
Im glad you did

:lol:

[Jebasiz]

Oddly enough I found out about this site, on another necro site after Yantis had bought them out(or was going to, I don't know to be honest)...there was a thread discussing options, who'd stay or who'd go etc...and someone posted a link to this site.

[Bonz]

Hi...
Like the site....
first time poster...

my thought on that is... good riddence... yeah guilds as good and all, but they still are just a club.. An "Our Gang" type organization... and "Spanky" is still just a kid. Be aluff about your next alligence... sometimes guilds with no so strong rep can hold you back ...

[Skova]

From my own personal experiences I believe the core of the problem with power abuses starts with the people themsleves. I am an officer in my guild and third in command. We have worked hard to "weed" out the undesirable people to have a good quality guild full of friends and family. Ive even had to boot my own RL brother and his wife. But too many times ive seen people ask for an officers position in quild, and when asked what qulifications they have for such a request, the answer is usually "Because im the highest level (class) in guild and i should be an officer." We have had to demote several officers because once given the position they treated it as a prestige title and havent lifted a finger to actually help run the guild.

Officers positions are jobs. We are the ones who have to figure out what to raid and when. We decide how loot will be gotten and who has priority. We have to make sure that everyone is getting geared up properly and how/where to get such gear. We have to make sure everyone is having fun doing it, and during all this time we have to find a way to have a little fun for ourselves. Between all the researching, exploration, and test groups, there is plenty of work to go around for all the officers. It burns me up when i spend 4 hours a day doing my job yet the officers just below me havent even stepped out of pov long enough to answer a question.

We have even had in a few cases where a newly promoted officer suddenly disappears from guild. When we get to checking and asking questions we find out they just wanted the position because they wanted in another guild but wouldnt get accepted unless they were officers already.

We had 2 officers leave the guild after one got demoted for failure to attend a mandatory officers meeting. We had it posted on website and the MotD for three weeks along with the warning of demotion for failure to attend. We also posted that if unable to attend for RL circumstances to let the GL know so that they wouldnt get demoted. When they showed up an hour late and realized they were no longer officers they removed themselves to whichever guild first offered them officer position.

Finding people who are honest, hard working, and ready to give a little to help the guild is hard to do. Most just see it as a prestige title and you never see them during guild raids or functions again.

[splurticus]

Unless a guild has solid leadership and is extremely careful with giving out officer status, this is going to happen.

If you enjoy grouping and/or have a penchant for getting yourself into bad situations that require a rescue effort by a guild, then by all means join a guild.

Otherwise an EQ guild is usually just a place to witness some extremely immature and thoroughly retarded political squabbles based on petty power struggles and old-fashioned greed.

I enjoy the game much more playing unguilded as a casual player. If you want to raid, you need a high-end raiding guild, but for a casually-playing necro or other solo class, it really isn't necessary. You could argue that on a PvP server that you need a guild more, but once again a high-lvl necro hardly ever needs a guild to help them in either PvP or PvE if they are smart and pick their fights carefully.

I now 2-box a druid and a necro on a blue server and I can't think of one good reason to join a guild other than high-end raids, which I don't have either the time or interest for anymore.

[Skova]

Thats exactly the mentality that i am talking about. I didnt join a guild because of what it could do for me. I dont raid. I dont have the time. I rarely group, mostly for the same reasons. I originally joined my guild solely on the fact that my best friend was in it. The only reason i accepted my position was because i felt i had something to contribute.

If you join a guild for what they can give you without ever asking what you could contribute to advance the guild, then you have totally missed the point.

[splurticus]

Ask yourself... what is a guild? How is it created? By whom and for whom? To me, an Everquest guild isn't some sort of greater cause or institution. It's a means to an end. Typically that end is either PvE accomplishment and/or being competitive against other guilds on a PvP server.

If you are consuming your time in a game based on feeling some sort of civic duty, I personally think you should re-evaluate your priorities. Everquest is a game, and EQ guilds are there to facilitate activity in a game. You aren't serving god and country here.

The time I spent in guilds was on a PvP server. I don't think anyone would accuse me of having behaved selfishly. Nobody ever did at the time, anyway. I played a druid and spent a fair majority of my time porting the guild for PvP and raids. I can't recall having ever made one statement about me getting loot, much less did I ever engage in any squabbles about it. Loot I did get was given to me by guild leaders without asking for anything.

I also have no time for raids and similar guild-related activity, but even if I did, I would never join another guild unless it had real leadership. A guild with a rotating leader and out-of-control officers certainly does not qualify. I think a minimum age of 21 and an emphasis on maturity and keeping things in context would also be a must-have.

[Sliderfx]

The guild I am in is more like a family instead of a guild. We have excellent leadership and focus more on helping each other rather than raiding for the sake of raiding.

[Schaeffer]

There are two types of guilds, the type Splurticous is talking about and the type Sliderfx is talking about. It all depends on preference as to how you like to play. If you are a casual player you want a guild to BS with during downtime and to help each other out with stuff occasioanlly to add some spice into the mix. The intese endgamer wants a guild who will advance quickly through the expansions to get the best gear and see the cool content.

It's a game, take away from it what you like. We're all paying the same monthly fee, except those crazy legends people, (just kidding, not looking to get flamed by the residents of Stormhammer) and so you should enjoy the game whatever way you want it's your money.

[Kzann]

Come to brell and join my sucky guild , i made it my self , called chaotic inferno , i liked it for awhile untill all the work started coming in when people would leave for no reason , like in a week over vacation i lost 30 people , so i just said screw it , and invited everyone and made them officers , and i know this is a very very long run on sentance and stuff , but my guild is pretty ubah.

[Kompressor]

Umbrello...

I too found this site surfing castersrealm, tell u the truth, I was slightly annoyed at first that every post in the spells forums said the same thing, so I finally thought to myself, WTF why not.. lol

Anyways, glad I checked it out as I have met some cool peeps here and learned/shared some new things.

On a side note, I am an officer in my guild, and I dont know how peeps really are on PVP servers or if running a guild is somewhat similar (always played on a blue Server) but yer right, as a guildie u should always treat each other with respect and if you do have a problem, try not to let things get out of hand, especially if yer an officer and deal with it in a prudent manner. To me, it sounded like he was pissed that you offered an opinion that he didnt think of himself. Being an officer gives some peeps the "know it all" attitude and thats gay that he reacted like that and brought up yer hard work on the site to piss u off back.. I like being in a guild where teh GL is online or has high play times. I guess if u lookin for a guild, and are wanted, ask about the GL and see if he plays a lot, if you were in a guild and didn't really know the GL, I think that is a problem there lol

I have seen corruption being an offiicer in a few different guilds, as far as DKP handling loots/money selling the BoC off the AoW for 350k then disbanding kinda thing etc.. and it sucks being an officer sometimes. Theres good n bad things about it, but for me I like to help people, and give advice (when I think I can give good advice) and help out peeps when they need to kill this or that, or with tactics.. that is why I am an officer. Take care,

~Myz

[Schaeffer]

Originally posted by Kompressor@Mar 16 2004, 01:32 PM
I like being in a guild where teh GL is online or has high play times.
Yeah, my GL is always High during ply time, oh wait that's not what you meant is it !?!

[Kompressor]

LoL, that too

[Vanadinaa]

Some people are pricks. Its messed up that that guild officer did that to ya for no apparant reason. id have told him off hardcore. also on another note i too found this site through castersrealm an its been a great thing for me. ive learned a lot an met some new people an overall its been a good experience for me an im sure for many others as well. dont let that jerk get to ya cause hes just a little b*tch

[Kandailu]

I must be the only person here who found this site from the mage's tower.

Anyway, any officer who will maliciously deguild someone should be forcably castrated so his @ssholeness and stupidity can't polute the gene pool.

Thank God I'm a proud member of Swift Avengers on Ayonae Ro. Mostly family feeling here but we do epic raids every now and then.

One thing you must remember about EQ for ever good player there's 10 fuckwads/smacktards/assmuches.

Normal person + audience + anonimity = total fuckwad (Copyright Penny Arcade)

*laces up his ass kickin' boots*
Please excuse me, I have a chardok raid to help with. I think the royals should just come to the ent, die, let us loot, and depop. We kill them about monthly (too many clerics want that clicker).

[Tephaneis]

I found this site through casters realm and I must thank you. This is the best class site I have ever seens since playing EQ. Second is either EQdiva for Bards or safehouse for rogues :)

[Aryse Andenter]

*sigh* This post deserves to die a long time ago. Yes, the officer in question can be a real jerk, yes he should have handled this situation differently, yes he was demoted quickly after I got leadership, but he was technically correct in deguilding Umbrello in this case. Umbrello swore in /ooc. This is against guild rules. The whole situation should have been handled differently, sure. He wouldn't have been deguilded permanently, of course. But while Umbrello is my friend and I would trade having him in the guild over that officer any day, you can't sight of the fact he did break guild rules in all of this.

So in short, you all know that if you break your guild's rules you can be deguilded, right?

[Fizzleplink]

More drama please!

/hugs

[Zikbus Wickbus]

i know im an asshole, ill be the first to ackgnowledge that.

yeah im the officer in question i was jokin about the castersrealm but he got on my ass so i asked an officer of our superior guild(anguish, officer toorpor) what i should do and he said dis guild so i did. ive already apologized to umbrello about this.
and this is why i play on sullon, its an angry and demoting atmosphere in the high game =)

[Aryse Andenter]

Ah Zikbus/Yuvbin, showing your face on these boards again.... are you going to take pieces of my posts, quote them out of context in a members section and claim I stabbed you in the back again like you did before? Cuz I would say I was pretty darn up front with you about shit, and I never went posting anything nasty about you to another guild - never even named you here when it was all going down.

If you ever get officership in a guild again - no, wait, let me rephrase that... if you ever buy officership in a guild again, you might want to try not antagonizing members to the point where they finally end up giving you reason to deguild them.

[Umbrello]

Originally posted by Aryse Andenter@Apr 15 2004, 08:27 PM
...he was technically correct in deguilding Umbrello in this case. Umbrello swore in /ooc. This is against guild rules....
Thanks Aryse, but the thing is I didnt cuss in OOC. I remember I took it to tells.

i know im an asshole, ill be the first to ackgnowledge that.

yeah im the officer in question i was jokin about the castersrealm but he got on my ass so i asked an officer of our superior guild(anguish, officer toorpor) what i should do and he said dis guild so i did. ive already apologized to umbrello about this.
and this is why i play on sullon, its an angry and demoting atmosphere in the high game =)

Interesting, youve decided to return Zikbus after deguilding me, and telling me Necrotalk is worthless in game, and pissing off various others here such as Aryse. Look, I'm not going to sink to your level and instantly ban you...but give me one reason...

Now have fun and enjoy the boards. But know I'll be watching.

[Kompressor]

lol u go boy.

[Aryse Andenter]

Sorry Umbrello, from reading the description of what happened I understood it to be that you swore in /ooc... Either way, you should have talked to me and been invited back into the guild within a day. I'm still kind of disappointed you didn't take it right to me and didn't rejoin us :(. And you wouldn't believe the amount of tells I got in appreciation when I demoted Yuvbin.

Want to know something funny about Yuvbin? He still had his alt (Zikbus) in DO, and he mouths off on our boards all the time... to the point where after me warning him twice he was about to lose member access, my fellow admin blocked him.
Watch him closely so he doesn't tard everything up. His leveling advice and xp locations are precious as he's an ebayed necro.... oh, and be sure to ask him what level the character is when he bought it, what level it is now, and how long he's had it? Then ask him how much he plays everyday and then continue laughing when you ask him about his mom taking away his keyboard.

Question: How nasty do you have to be to be banned from member forums for a guild you are in?
Answer: If you're Zikbus just continue to be yourself.

PS - The funniest thing about all of this is that I really don't hate him. He just needs to stfu about stuff he has no experience with, and he needs to never be in a position of authority, his judgement sucks.

[Zikbus Wickbus]

its my connection lol! i got it at 49 and im 56 and i dont xp cause i pk cause i go ld if i stay in a zone for more then 10 minutes.

my moms evil!

lol dvus banned me from membership cause i flamed him on hate boards, cause i figured out that when he posted his kill logs he was lying about how much he got coined, which in reality was basically every single one of them! thansk for telling me i didnt realize, and frankly i dont much care

oh yeah edit 2, i forgot i only came to these boards cause i was looking for pics of aryse IRL which isaac claimed were here but i havent seem them and it is irking me

[Umbrello]

Good then you can leave now, since you havent found any. Good day.

[Jebasiz]

It's not my fight and I don't know you (but that doesn't stop me).

If you argue with aryse and umbrello, two very nice and intelligent people...IMO your an asshole. If you argue with those two on their respective sites in which they're admins, your stupid. So in summary, Your a stupid asshole, get lost.

[Niri]

/cheers Jeb

[Aryse Andenter]

lol... after I warned him several times in our forums that he would lose access if he didnt shape up, gave him a final warning that he still wasn't conforming to what was acceptable and it was his last chance, he finds himself banned... and he still thinks it's cuz he insulted our other admin on another board?!! :rolleyes:

[Death's Servent]

/agrees with Jeb



My little addition:

I answered a question that a guildleader and a few members asked me in guildchat since the question was asked in guildchat. About 2-3 mins after answering the question, I get a tell saying consider this a warning and something about thier warning policy.


I am still trying to figure it out. I mean the guild is an open guild with very few guidelines. I got the invite w/o being asked if I would like to join the guild.

[Fizzleplink]

Good lords almighty, Tark... You must've been spoutin' some awfully potent words, then. I think your guild's even more relaxed than mine. I mean, our guilds are about as laid back as one can get, and still be able to call them guilds.

[Death's Servent]

This was RotDH Fizzle, not morning star. I said only one misspelled vugar word.