Necro Epic

[Chukkorn]

:blink: :ph34r: I was wondering how the necromancer epic is done. I know i am not hih enuf level yet..i would just like to no for when i get there. I am not sure if there is a post anywhere about this. :unsure:

[Perkoset]

Read these, they should help.

Link 1 (http://necro.eqclasses.com/walkthroughs/epic.asp)

Link 2 (http://www.moeman.com/eq_duckstick.htm)



Perk

[Schaeffer]

Was bored and decided to start working on this thing. So I go to East Freeport in the bar on the docks. I make pet, go afk to get a drink and come back and Sir Edwin Motte is dead at my feet. Gotta love that. Did all the stuff up to the Mansini Herb. That's my first real battle. I know some people have soloed him but any suggestions on who what to bring down there to chardok, My guild is average level 55 with about 10 members 60 plus. Any advice would be appreciated.

[HazardousPanic]

Guildes and I went for the "Herb Man" and tried for about 3 hours and got nothing but his PH. If you got enough people it's easy to sit and pull mobs while your bored. I don't know about solo'ing - thought it would be a little to busy for that.

[Persephonae]

As to soloable? Well... I got trained by the named herbalist while I was minding my own business & camping the Gate in Chardok one evening... yes.. I said trained by the herbalist at the Gate... I thought it was pretty mind boggling myself...


Not sure if the guy calling the camp on camp checks was an ebay'd putz or not, but he was 65 and I saw a Lich title as he ran by me like a sissy for zone out...

[Aryse Andenter]

I reserve the right to make fun of any necro with his epic.... take a good long look at the results of all that work and decided if it's worth bothering with any part of it when you can just camp HGs in RM for a bit and buy yourself something much nicer.

[Origomali]

I reserve the right to make fun of any necro with his epic

That is your right, as it is mine to dis-agree. In fact, I bet we can agree to dis-agree.

Myself, I will finish the quest, after all, we do play Everquest. There might be better items out there, heck I know there are better robes than my Rotting Robe from the SS quest, but it is Necro item and one I am proud to own.

My reasons for wanting to complete the quest are to own something, not many have and to have lived up to the challenge.

I know, the Epics are quite dated but someday, if they so choose, SOE might just make them better, maybe through a seperate quest.......or at least make them as easy to obtain as the Beastlord epic.......damn easiest epic I have ever seen.

[Antilight]

Originally posted by Origomali@Feb 20 2004, 10:30 PM
I know, the Epics are quite dated but someday, if they so choose, SOE might just make them better, maybe through a seperate quest.......or at least make them as easy to obtain as the Beastlord epic.......damn easiest epic I have ever seen.
Yeah, what the cheese is up with that? As easy as it is, you'd think they will probably hand the Epic to the Berserkers (I'm going under the presumtion (wrong of course) that it was easy because the Beasties were new).

Would be nice if they toned some of the harder Epics down a bit (Mage, Necro...don't know of others that are that hard, SK too.).


Antilight :ph34r:

[Nigyl]

Would be nice if they toned some of the harder Epics down a bit (Mage, Necro...don't know of others that are that hard, SK too.).

They already have. The Mage epic is now much easier than it was a year back, with the new Hate (Magi is easily single-groupable at 61+) and the change to Sky so that the keys no longer poof on leaving the zone... all it takes is one Necro in the guild with keys to all the islands and you can have a full raid on the Mage island in an hour with Summon Corpse.

In fact, I believe that every single part of the Mage epic has been soloed at least once (other than having the Necro summon them to the island), though I don't know whether anyone has soloed the entire thing.

To a lesser extent that also affects the Necro epic, but not as much since you need drops from the early islands anyway.

I reserve the right to make fun of any necro with his epic

And I reserve the right to say "welcome to /ignore". At the rate I'm going I'll have the epic within a year purely because I keep getting drops while raiding for other people's epics. Got two of the Sky drops last night, for example.

[Origomali]

No, don't make them easier. Making things too easy is what has driven some good people away. EQ was always meant to be like D&D with a twist of LoR, not some PS2 game.

Mudds are how the good games came about, EQ included....that is where I first found it and why I came back....got sick of games like Diablo and all the easy hacks.

I want my Epic to be just that, an Epic Mile Stone in my EQ career.....

Hey, I want my monies' worth....I want a challenge.

[Zanikenth]

Originally posted by Origomali@Feb 21 2004, 02:47 AM
I want my Epic to be just that, an Epic Mile Stone in my EQ career.....


I agree with Ori on this. An Epic is just that. EPIC. So what if the stats are a bit dated. So what if it isnt as good as some of the other items out there. The point is that the Necro who has it had the balls to go out and win over one more challenge and then feel the pride as he gets that Epic in hand. I bow to those Necros who get items that way.

[Nyteson]

I like the links to the Necro Epic that Perkoset posted, good walk throughs. My only complaint is, what mobs hold the keys to Najena? Both Alakhazaam and Casters realm suggest buying the FBR (Flowing Black Robe) in Bazaar but, that's too easy. I'm trying to earn my epic the right way. I'm a bored 52 Necro, I tend to just want to slaughter things when I get bored. Maybe help out lower level PC's in current zone. I'm headed to Najena now to figure it out.

While I'm at it, what level for Chardok? Should I try to get to 55 before I go? Thanx folks, you are all wonderful.

[Minyai]

Anyone know where to find a map of the new hate?
{Edit}

Nm found it at www.guildseofon.com (http://www.guildseofon.com/raidinghate.html#map)

[Antilight]

Well, let me reword what I said.

I think all Epics should be on par with each other in how hard they are to get. There shouldn't be an Epic like the Beastlords (which from all reading is sickenly easy) and one like the Mage or Necro's or SKs which is considerable harder. I believe the BL Epic can be done without going to the planes (been awhile) and I think (not sure) that most others you have to. Don't know about the Rogues but I've heard that one is almost a cake walk too.

Since Epics are so old now, they are purely a status symbol (and a good one). I think they need to revamp them with one of the expansions and make them better and harder to get. I applaud people who got there Epics early on during Kunark and even Velious.



Antilight :ph34r:

[Skulmar]

Originally posted by Antilight@Mar 5 2004, 02:26 PM
I think all Epics should be on par with each other in how hard they are to get. There shouldn't be an Epic like the Beastlords (which from all reading is sickenly easy) and one like the Mage or Necro's or SKs which is considerable harder. I believe the BL Epic can be done without going to the planes (been awhile) and I think (not sure) that most others you have to. Don't know about the Rogues but I've heard that one is almost a cake walk too.
Clerics do not have to go to the planes either. I didnt even realize it until I saw a lvl 36 cleric with her epic standing at the BB LDoN camp....

The Rogue epic is easy but at least they have to get the item in PoH from Maestro's room. :)

[Kompressor]

I didnt even realize it until I saw a lvl 36 cleric with her epic standing at the BB LDoN camp....


She mighta been sacced by one of us a lil too far mwhahahhaha

[GrrymmReepper]

you can only sac a person down to lvl 46, (untill one more sac would unding them to 45), so, not sure how a 36 cleric could possibly get the epic. I know the effect could not be used at that lvl though.

Grrymm, 58 necro Quellious

[Rikam]

Uhm as i recall the epic ppl wont talk till you tilll 45 might be mistaken. But, I think you need to be 45 so might have killed self back down for some reason not sure why.

[funkman78]

I've got an Erudite necromancer. Do I need to be concerned with dark elf or Iksar faction when working on this epic?

[Nigyl]

No need to worry about Dark Elf faction, the only NPC you have to talk to in Nektulos is well away from any guards: and by the time you're ready to do the epic you won't need to worry about Nektulos guards in any case, your pet will tank all but the newby entrance guards without even breaking a sweat. As a Dark Elf I've had no problems talking to the Kunark NPCs either.

[funkman78]

Originally posted by Nigyl@Apr 20 2004, 10:00 AM
No need to worry about Dark Elf faction, the only NPC you have to talk to in Nektulos is well away from any guards: and by the time you're ready to do the epic you won't need to worry about Nektulos guards in any case, your pet will tank all but the newby entrance guards without even breaking a sweat. As a Dark Elf I've had no problems talking to the Kunark NPCs either.
Yeah, I've started on the epic by getting Sir Edwin Motte's head. My pet can tank the Barbarian and the ogre in the bar in East Freeport with no problem whatsoever. The ogre was green at 50, and the Barbarian was light blue. I just single pulled them out with Cascading Darkness, turned taunting on with my pet, and sent him in swinging once they were outside.

The dark elf faction guard factions are not ones I'm terribly worried about. I did the red wine quest quite a bit, so it's raised my standing with guards and citizens from dubious to indifferent in Neriak. (Maybe that's why dark elves are so grumpy all the time - they're alcoholics and hung over.) I just wasn't sure if Venenzi was on The Dead faction (DE necros). Ssessthrass, from what I read on other message boards, doesn't seem to be on the standard Iksar factions.

[Nigyl]

I'm pretty sure they were indifferent to me, whereas I'm amiable or better to the Dead faction... I think most epic NPCs are on sensible factions who are non-KoS to all by default.

[Boogeyman]

I think the Rogue epic is probably the easiest. Buy a gate potion and just sneak in and take a book, don't even have to fight anything while on the planes. They also don't have to do half of what they were originally intended to do otherwise it would be tougher.

[Tephaneis]

I would just say that I did the necro epic and I disagree about how people say it's so easy. The whole General event isn't that easy. The only reason it is kinda easy is that the zone is a very easy location and you don't have to wait for spawns unless someone killed the DEs earlier. Killing Philly and getting the other 2 robes (if you earn it not buy it) takes time too. I was one of the unlucky ones that didn't get the quill from the general.

Anyways on to the real topic here, I plan to go after my duck stick soon after I hit 50.

[Fizzleplink]

Up til recently, all turn ins could be done before the required level. As long as you didn't need to ask them for something (like a bag to combine things) you could turn in and get the reward if faction was sufficient.

[NeSikWay]

A while back I decided that I wasn't going to do the necro epic, mostly because plane of Sky is such a pain in the butt. Now I've all but finished my Bard's epic, (just have to kill trak) and cant get a group to kill him. I may go back sometime and do the epic quest, it is an epic quest, and no wheren near as hard as the SK's, but SK's seem to always get the short end of the stick. I decided instead to do the shawl quest, now thats a long drawn out quest! Any one who takes these kinds of things on has my respect, and yes it is Everquest, I don't lvl as fast as I should because I do alot of the quests, and had alot of fun doing them, I really like the adventures, though sometimes I wish there was a better story line or more of a story line I knew about. I do alot of my own farming too, which is a pain cause I'm mostly on at prime time. I don't think much of the rewards you get, some of these quests are just really difficult and hard, and its hard to be motivated when you can just farm some plat and go buy something better. SOE does need to look at time vs. difficulty vs reward for all of their quests.

Also the beastlord epic may be easy but I don't see many beastlords running around anymore with their epic.

[Nigyl]

A while back I decided that I wasn't going to do the necro epic, mostly because plane of Sky is such a pain in the butt.

What's such a pain about Sky? It's not like the Mage epic, where you have to get almost to the last island: one 65 group with a good Chanter could probably get to the Necro epic mob in four or five hours, though you'd probably want to bring two to have sacrifices for the death touches.

The only real problem I see with getting that part of the epic is that it doesn't always drop: I can probably get people to kill the mob once, but it will be hard to get them to go back again many times. On the other hand, once you have keys you can just run to an island and summon the whole group there without needing to fight your way in again.

[Sstakor]

What parts of the necro epic is MQable? Are they MQable with another necro or does it have to be another class?

[Fizzleplink]

Many of the other epics are faction driven. If you have not done the necessary steps beforehand, you will have either too much or too little faction to complete the last step. It used to be that somebody with max TrueSpirit faction could MQ the last step of the shaman epic. Since about a year ago this is no longer the case. In fact, there are shaman who still fail the last step because of how narrow the final faction target is.

Anybody know of a successful MQ on a part of the necro epic?

[Deathlady]

I think the hardest epic is the chanter. I have a 65 chanter. One piece took over 3 weeks camping pof for 4 to 6 hours a day killing about 1000 plus mobs that held my epic piece. and 24 hours in poh for part. Then have to camp 3 other mobs on a 24 to 72 hour timer random spawns hoping they would pop when a group of guilds on for the kill. When i finilly got it it took about 5 months to complete.

But well worth the effort.

Looking foward doing nerco epic next.

Deathlady 53

[Ormil]

I can believe a 36 cleric had the epic...it's faction neutral and the entire thing can be MQ'd.

[Kabbage13]

I'm at 48 now and trying to start the Epic. I camped out at crossroads in QH for a few hours yesterday to no avail. Not even a hint of the pathetic paladin Sir Edwin Motte. Does anyone know where in Rathe Mts and EK he pops as well. A LOC or suitable landmark would be sufficient. I'm trying to avoid EFP for now. Thanks in advace.

[Origomali]

Kabbage13,

Just go to EFP and kill him. I solo'd him at 30 in the bar and if you get the rotation down it is easy enough to do....just a long camp invis. Also, use the tunnels that get you directly under the bar, it is a safe place to wait him out between random recon missions. I know it is said you can't start your epic till 50 but I had the first 3 or 4 steps done by level 33....but that was a long time ago.

[ssyruk]

my guild did a raid into PoSky today. made it all the way to the 5th island (pegasus island). we managed to clear the island and even kill the Keeper of Souls. no cape though so it was kind of anti climactic :P . we did manage to get 3 epic pieces for the rangers in the raid so it want a total loss. guess we'll try again another day. btw does anyone know if the Black Silk Cape is a rare drop or is it common? gl to everyone working on this part of the epic...your gonna need it hehe.

[Thfallen82]

Hello all. I wanted to add something i have noticed just recently involving the manisi herb part of the epic. While taking a friend down to the herbalist hut to show him how to snare pull zone kite the herbalist i realized that the herbalsit ph "a dizok herbalist" and pretty much every mob that spawns near the the herbalsit hut gates at around 25% or so, sometimes even lower. Whether or not you have him fully dotted, as soon as he gates his life shoots back up so if you cant get over to him fast enough to dd the crap out of him you pretty much have to start the pull all over again. Now when the herbalist ph gates for some reason things dont aggro to you its almost like you never even pulled him, but when the other mobs gate every darn thing in the area will add so you have to zone into chardokb as soon as they gate. The purpose of this e-mail is to let every one know that if you are going ot be soloing herbalist anytime soon to definitely have Screaming Terror in your spell bar by the time the herbalist ph or any one of those mobs is around 40% and start chain mezzing the crap out of them. You dont have to kill the other mobs to get to the herbalsit or his ph really, i was just having fun =). I am not sure if the grand herbalist himself gates as of yet but i will get back to everyone with the info when i find out. Good luck to everyone who wants to get there epic its fun and in the end worth the time,if not just for the adventures you get to accomplish with friends along the way =).

Sage Fatumben
65 Arch Lich Quellious server

--fear my poor typing skills--

[Thfallen82]

bah not e-mail the purpose of this post........./sigh