Delay Death AA

[Aryse Andenter]

The Dealy Death and Prolonged Mortality AAs.... so you successfully FD with your hp below zero. You think, sweet, I got my money's worth. Then, upon regenning to 0%, you auto-stand from your FD (with low hp agro, no less). Duh!!! I can't find a way to prevent this from happening, and it makes the AA a hell of a lot less valuable. What's going on with it?

[Jebasiz]

It's basically a couple ticks or so to get a heal. It's not meant to replace FD.

[Aryse Andenter]

Maybe I have to experiment with it more... but it seems to actually break a succesful FD you got off.

[sauruman]

Ya its pretty anoying I admit.... Gives a few secs to get a heal before your FD breaks from bleeding to death. If no mob around no biggy, but if something is there your done for.

[Aryse Andenter]

Originally posted by sauruman@Mar 10 2006, 02:51 AM
Ya its pretty anoying I admit.... Gives a few secs to get a heal before your FD breaks from bleeding to death. If no mob around no biggy, but if something is there your done for.
Bleeding to death is definately not what I am talking about.

Sometimes when you go unconscious you get a message that you channelled your FD. So, I thought you were actually FD below 0%, since you supposedly got the cast off okay.

The problem comes when you are regenning (ie, you outregen your lich or have clicked lich off). When you regen from negative hp to 0 hp, you automatically stand up coming conscious again.

If in fact you were never FD despite the channeling message, this makes sense. If being knocked unconscious over rides the FD channel, then standing at 0 sucks but I wouldn't say it was broken. But, I always understood that when you got the channel message, you were actually FD. So in this case, standing when you regen to 0 hp would be a bug, as it is subtly breaking FD, or ignoring it completely.

So... is it possible to be FD because you channeled it while going unconscious? If so then the stand is ignoring your FD.

[UsulDaNeriak]

i cant remember any situation, when i survived after i was falling into negative hp.
if not a healer around who rescued me.

i have to check this fd/stand issue aryse has raised. i never recognized it or looked at it actively.

Usul

[Xatrekak]

a good way to test would to stick some dots on ur self (with some one around who can cure once u get below 0%) and fd just befor u fall unconscience then see what happens once u get healed/ regen to full

[Darkniess]

I know for sure that monks stand up X( and I'm pretty sure I've seen my necro do it too... This is the gheyest thing ever. I can't count the amount of times i've been like holy SHJT I cant believe it, I survived and fd'd with -5 hps (don't have the mortality aa) only to stand up and get whacked right after... this needs to be fixed imo, but I know it wont be.

[Meph]

I don't really see what should be fixed it kinda makes sense you stop feignig death when you fall below zero even if you had a successfull fign before. If someone kicked you in the nuts while feigned you would jump up breaking it also bleeding to death is about the same imo.

[Aryse Andenter]

Originally posted by Meph@Mar 13 2006, 10:51 AM
I don't really see what should be fixed it kinda makes sense you stop feignig death when you fall below zero even if you had a successfull fign before. If someone kicked you in the nuts while feigned you would jump up breaking it also bleeding to death is about the same imo.
This is not that it makes you stop feigning death if you fall below zero. This is that you succesfully feigned death after your hp dropped below zero - that is when you channeled it through.

This isn't somsone kicking you in the nuts after you are FD, this is you trying to FD while being kicked in the nuts and getting the message you successfully did so, at which point the mob goes away. The problem comes as you are feeling better.

Again, there is no bleeding to death here in where I really see the problem. While your hp could fall below zero while you are FD if you are dotted or don't outregen your lich and don't click it off, you can also supposedly get an FD off with less than 0hp when you receive the message that you channeled the cast while being hit. So, the issue is actually the reverse - you are FD below zero (according to the message that you channeled your FD, for example) - you regen to 0hp, and upon regenning to 0hp you automatically stand up.

[Mallakith]

This is an issue thats been around for ever, its only coming to light with delay death aa as ppl are living longer past 0 hps than before.

Ive had it happen to me before lets get straight what happens (Im not stealing thunder Aryse):

1) necro casts feign death as it lands goes unconscious/delay death
2) necro regains 0hps is no longer unconscious and autostands
3) necro makes a rather nasty stain on the floor.

Im sure sk's and monks must have this too the problem is the autostand function on regaining consciousness, nothing really to do with delay death apart from being triggered because we CAN now go below 0hps.

This is another issue that is probably more important than "pretty pets" but happens so infrequently ppl tend to forget about it.

[Xelgadis]

We've always been able to go -10hp, the Delay Death line has extended that making this problem more apparent. Last time I channeled FD at sub-zero hp (was like -450hp or so), I wasn't dotted, I got this wonderful message:

http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/1943/suffer6to.png

Still died, however.