Pet Foci

[Xislaben]

faction/raid merchan aug - Glowing Dyadic Quartz (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=103129)
Enhanced Minion VIII ?% DPS
1: Pet Power Increase(90)
2: Limit: Max Level(90)
3: Limit: Min Level(76)

faction/raid merchan aug - Greater Dyadic Quartz (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=103128)
Enhanced Minion VII ?% DPS
1: Pet Power Increase(85)
2: Limit: Max Level(90)
3: Limit: Min Level(76)

faction/raid merchan aug - Major Dyadic Quartz (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=103127)
Enhanced Minion VI ?% DPS
1: Pet Power Increase(80)
2: Limit: Max Level(90)
3: Limit: Min Level(76)

Crystallos ear - Golem-Lord's Earring of Control (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=102638)
Enhanced Minion V ?% DPS
1: Pet Power Increase(75)
2: Limit: Max Level(90)
3: Limit: Min Level(76)

MMM ear - High-Volume Servant Transceiver (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=102573)
Enhanced Minion IV ?% DPS
1: Pet Power Increase(70)
2: Limit: Max Level(80)
3: Limit: Min Level(76)

Steamfactory ear - Winged Gem of Command (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=102538)
Enhanced Minion III ?% DPS
1: Pet Power Increase(65)
2: Limit: Max Level(80)
3: Limit: Min Level(76)

Enhanced Minion II ?% DPS
1: Pet Power Increase(60)
2: Limit: Max Level(80)
3: Limit: Min Level(71)

Crystallos range - Draconic Servant's Wand (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=101330)
Crystallos range - Torch of Eternal Servitude (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=101830)
TBS Solteris hands (nec) - Corrupted Energeiac Silk Gloves (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=80571)
TBS solteris ear - Spike Covered Loop (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=80631) (no longer drops, nor not!)
Servant of Solusek / Pet Focus 2 TSS TBS / Enhanced Minion I ?% DPS
1: Pet Power Increase(55)
2: Limit: Max Level(80)
3: Limit: Min Level(71)

SoF ear - Model XI Fuel Nugget Bauble (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=101724)
SoF ear - Fuel Nugget Bauble (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=101224)
TSS quest arms (nec) - Draton`ra`s Blackbone Sleeves (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=53432)
TSS range - Burning Heart of Sothgar (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=46900)
Servitor of Scale +30% DPS
1: Pet Power Increase(50)
2: Limit: Max Level(80)
3: Limit: Min Level(71)

Blackburrow ear - Kraxz' Earring of Command (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=41448)
SoF ear - Fuelmaster's Bauble (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=101640)
Gyro Beza ear - Energized Wire Coil (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=101140)
SoF tmp item - Skull of the Spire Servant (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=52805)
DoB waist - Vermilion Batfur Sash (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=83591)
Spire Servant +30% DPS
1: Pet Power Increase(45)
2: Limit: Max Level(80)
3: Limit: Min Level(66)

CoA quest armor feet - Blightbringer's Sandals of the Grave (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=70927)
Servant of Chaos +23% DPS
1: Pet Power Increase(40)
2: Limit: Max Level(80)
3: Limit: Min Level(66)

Direwind range - Ashen Orb of the Blightpyre (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=46743)
Txevu ear - Gemstone of Dark Flame (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=69106)
RSS back - Zulaqua's Cloak (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=70704)
Minion of Discord +20% DPS
1: Pet Power Increase(35)
2: Limit: Max Level(80)
3: Limit: Min Level(61)

Zhisza range - Orb of Stonecarving (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=80258)
Sunderrock head - Hood of Oblivion (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=46789)
Ashengate range - Magmaraug's Burning Essence (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=46688)
Qvic quest armor feet - Nolaen's Lifereaper Sandals (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=68923)
LDoN [raid] aug - Cherished Companion Shard (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=68094)
RCoD ring - Eye of the Labyrinth Dweller (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=70672)
Ritual Summoning +18% DPS
1: Pet Power Increase(30)
2: Limit: Max Level(80)
3: Limit: Min Level(61)

Katta shoulders - Silken Mantle of the Summoner (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=80206)
TBS range - The Sweeper (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=80149)
Valdeholm range - Dentrik's Dementia (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=46626)
TSS quest pants (nec) - Shadow-Vexed Silk Pants (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=53317)
Ikkinz aug - Flamestone of the Arcane (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=68795)
WoS waist - Pyrique's waist (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=70588)
Yxtta ring - Ruby Ring of Embellishment (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=68672)
DoN waist - Summoner's Rune waist (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=71609)
Time range - Symbol of Ancient Summoning (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=20508)
Minion of Eternity +15% DPS
1: Pet Power Increase(25)
2: Limit: Max Level(75)
3: Limit: Min Level(59)

TBS waist - Drowned Man's Hair (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=80119)
TSS range - Enchanted Harpy Blade (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=46408)
VT hands - Gloves of Dark Summoning (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=28144)
DoN range (good) - Orb of Swarming Darkness (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=82246)
DoN range (ebil) - Sphere of Swarming Darkness (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=82247)
RSS range - Sphere of Swirling Flame (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=70296)
Minion of Darkness +13% DPS
1: Pet Power Increase(20)
2: Limit: Max Level(75)
3: Limit: Min Level(59)

LDoN aug - Diamond Prism of Companionship (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=42134)
Bloodfields ring - Chaos-Imbued Platinum Band (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=70533)
Summoner's Boon +8% DPS
1: Pet Power Increase(15)
2: Limit: Max Level(70)
3: Limit: Min Level(59)

PoHate drop - Encyclopedia Necrotheurgia (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=11571)
Minion of Hate
1: Pet Power Increase(10)
2: Limit: Max Level(60)
3: Limit: Min Level(48)
4: Limit: Resist(Poison allowed) ?

Pet foci and levels by Todwelt, though 'pet level' should be spell level I think:
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/874/petfocivp8.jpg

[nethyia]

Servant of Chaos also found on Last Blood of the Beastlord (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=46013).

Likewise, Minion of Discord also foudn on Bazu Seal of Companions (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=45881). (hmm, someone is saying this is unattainable in game, is the Last Blood one unattainable as well?)

The lesser DoDH playermade augs might have more of them, but too lazy to check.

[Fayed]

its makeable, just hard to get a last blood aug. they do exist(made all of them in beta)

[Xislaben]

I left the DoD augs out because they were removed from the game before going to live, so they never existed on live even though the you can make the mechanoinstructions.

The final combine is DNC by design.

[danoob]

Oh Oh xis you rock man for starting this thread.

This is a semi-bitch/complaint so ignore if you wish.

Was thinking of this earlier tonight on a raid actually, and a thread appears where my concerns can be voiced.

Demiplane focused pets once shrunked are still freaking HUGE...

A Skeleton illusion pet would be nice.

Seriously, it seems a Demi focused pet once double shrunk is nearly the same size as a normal unfocused level 59 pet.

Granted this effects a small percentage of players but wow, look at a full sized demiplane focused pet sometime. Thing is like 20 feet tall!

[Jebasiz]

Pet Power Increase(45)


Means what..exactly?

[Xislaben]

Originally posted by Jebasiz@Jun 8 2006, 04:17 PM
Pet Power Increase(45)


Means what..exactly?
It's some internal number for calculating the pet's hp/ac/max hit etc etc.

+5 pet power is only like +1 max hit or something.

Nolaen's Lifereaper Sandals (30) to Gemstone of Dark Flame (35) is +1 max hit for sure.

edit:
The above is wrong heh. The pet power number doesn't do anything. The focus summons an entirely different npc while it's worn during summoning, and that npc's stats are predetermined by whatever the dev put in the DB.

[Xelgadis]

45% over base.

The power increase from Anguish to Demi-Plane pet foci really doesn't match the power gain from other foci. But, as we all know, good luck getting the devs to change anything once it's live.

Time ran out during the DoD beta before this focus could be adequately tested, and because of luck (read: bad) with the RNG, the person who parsed the various foci to see how effective they were didn't get the belt til shortly before PoR went live. Problem there is, mages got Rathe's Strength, which affects all pets around the mage. Likely the devs view that as enough to bring the weak focus up to par, nevermind the fact that only 1 of the 3 pet classes has direct access to that aura.

[Xelgadis]

Originally posted by Xislaben+Jun 8 2006, 12:03 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Xislaben @ Jun 8 2006, 12:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Jebasiz@Jun 8 2006, 04:17 PM
Pet Power Increase(45)


Means what..exactly?
It's some internal number for calculating the pet's hp/ac/max hit etc etc.

+5 pet power is only like +1 max hit or something.

Nolaen's Lifereaper Sandals (30) to Gemstone of Dark Flame (35) is +1 max hit for sure. [/b][/quote]
Evaluating max hit is the worst way to evaluate a pet focus. Max hit is mostly there for eye candy, and means nothing (except on low con mobs, where pets will hit for max most of the time). Parsing is the only true way to evaluate a pet focus, as the majority of the power gain will be seen in the average hit.

[Xislaben]

Some tiers will also increase the level of the pet itself, which is good because I believe the level difference between pet and mob are used to calculate hits and things.

I don't have a bot army to con my pets though, so I couldn't tell you which ones raise levels etc.

[Xelgadis]

OoW pets are base level 65.

- Summoner's Boon - No level increase
- Minion of Darkness - Increases level to 66 (I think... might be no level increase)
- Minion of Eternity - Increases level to 66
- Ritual Summoning - Increases level to 67
- Minion of Discord - Increases level to 67
- Servant of Chaos - Increases level to 68
- Spire Servant - Increases level to 68

Minion of Darkness will increase the level of Emmisary of Thule to the point of being a light blue con at 70. In my experience, Minion of Eternity does not focus EoT, contrary to what the Lucy info on that focus implies.


*Edit: Edited to reflect accurate info regarding various foci and EoT :P

[nephayres]

EoT still green with minion of hate (at level 70~)

[Xelgadis]

Last time I messed with MoH was like last fall sometime. In any case, the focus can theoretically increase our pet's survivability (a little) in some pet pulling cases.

[Xelgadis]

Ok, I stand corrected. Talk about pet foci got me testing again. Minion of Hate does in fact summon a green EoT, as does Summoner's Boon. Minion of Darkness does still focus EoT, and that will summon a light blue pet. Minion of Eternity, however, doesn't focus the pet. Edited my post above to address the mal information.

What it all boils down to: hold onto those VT gloves (or pick up one of the DoN/RSS items with that focus). ;) Not to mention hold on to the Time book for the Tiny Companion clicky, or snag the stiletto from water, or the earring from Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk. Have the book and earring in my collection, still need the stiletto. The book from Hate is still useful, of course. But, as mobs increase in level, the usefulness of that item (short of the clicky value) declines.

[Jebasiz]

So when my pet focus went from ritual summoning to spire servant last week, my pet "dinged"?

I also went from (30) to (45)..which we don't really know what that means? My pet's max hit went up 3? Did hps, mitigation and avoidance get much better? How about hp regen?

[Xislaben]

Originally posted by Jebasiz@Jun 9 2006, 02:35 PM
So when my pet focus went from ritual summoning to spire servant last week, my pet "dinged"?

I also went from (30) to (45)..which we don't really know what that means? My pet's max hit went up 3? Did hps, mitigation and avoidance get much better? How about hp regen?
There have been some parses of pet HP for the lower tier of foci in the past, but afaik nobody has bothered looking into pet HP with current foci.

Take unbuffed pet summoned with your pet foci, duel somebody, let them nuke the pet 1x, and from the resulting hp % and the nuke dmg dealt you cna see what the new HP is.

Comepare that to nuking the pet summoned with no worn focus for the delta.

As for AC, that's a bit harder to determine. IDK about mitigation or avoidance either, you'd have to parse your pet vs the same non-trivial mob (same level mob too) for a while to get averages.

[Felicite]

I was lead to believe that when you summon a focused pet the server actually gives you a different Pet NPC Mob.. rather than applying a factor to the various statistics.

This is why a focused pet stays focused.. even after unequiping the focus item.

So.. "(45)" I believe was "45% stronger" conceptually.. but the implementation of this done by the designer actually entering each combination of focus and pet in the database.

Because of this, you sometimes get gifts. Like the LDoN focused pet had many many times the regen of an unfocused pet.. way more than a 15% increase in regen. More like 1000%.

This was my understanding.

[Jebasiz]

Bah pet foci make my head fuckin' hurt. :( :angry: :( :angry:

[Xislaben]

Added 6 new TSS foci items, including relatively easy to get quest item (tier 3 pants).

Don't know where they all drop yet, and no known better or equivalent foci to the CoA or DPoB foci, but the expansion end zones aren't known yet either.

Direwind range - Ashen Orb of the Blightpyre is the best known tss foci and drop from what is definitely a raid hit, and I'm not sure how difficult it is or what requirements you'd have to have to be able to beat it.

Sunderrock head - Hood of Oblivion is also from a raid hit, but an easier one.

Er, updated effective pet levels too with level caps.

[Xislaben]

Added 'Servitor of Scale' focus.

Oddly it's the same as Spire Servant and has a smaller level range. /boggle

[Brahman]

rumor has it that it is focusing more then the old one though.

[Xislaben]

Originally posted by Brahman@Oct 24 2006, 05:12 PM
rumor has it that it is focusing more then the old one though.
Ah, I would hope so, but if true lucy's info has to be wrong?

[Brahman]

no, lucy's info would be "right" but our understanding of what it means would be wrong.

aka its really just a meaningless number that they toss on there for our benifit.

Either way its just messed up lol

[Jebasiz]

Those sleeves are so disappointing on so many levels.

[Xelgadis]

Originally posted by Xislaben@Oct 24 2006, 08:25 AM
Added 'Servitor of Scale' focus.

Oddly it's the same as Spire Servant and has a smaller level range. /boggle
Starting with this expansion, they implemented a quasi-decay system for pet foci. Servitor of Scale does happen to show the same power increase as Spire Servant... Reality of it is, Spire Servant focused TSS pets don't receive the "full power" of pre-TSS foci, if you want to look at it in more traditional focus terms (as a pet focus really isn't a "focus" in the tradtional sense).

[Xislaben]

Originally posted by Xelgadis+Oct 25 2006, 04:29 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Xelgadis @ Oct 25 2006, 04:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Xislaben@Oct 24 2006, 08:25 AM
Added 'Servitor of Scale' focus.

Oddly it's the same as Spire Servant and has a smaller level range. /boggle
Starting with this expansion, they implemented a quasi-decay system for pet foci. Servitor of Scale does happen to show the same power increase as Spire Servant... Reality of it is, Spire Servant focused TSS pets don't receive the "full power" of pre-TSS foci, if you want to look at it in more traditional focus terms (as a pet focus really isn't a "focus" in the tradtional sense). [/b][/quote]
That sucks. :(

Where did a dev say that for quoting purposes? I missed it.

Or did you just parse it and see diminishing returns on max hit for instance?

[Zandramadass]

So to clarify pet focus is now degrading like our spell focus past a certain lvl?

[Xislaben]

Originally posted by Zandramadass@Oct 25 2006, 04:54 PM
So to clarify pet focus is now degrading like our spell focus past a certain lvl?
That's what he's saying, and I'm inclined to take his word for it, I know how much pet parsing he's done. Still though, I'd love to see a dev quote saying that.

[Brahman]

there is NO way to parse that, other then to show that the 2 "equal" pet foci don't provide the same benifit.

It was talked about in beta aka no quote for joo !

[Xislaben]

Originally posted by Brahman@Oct 25 2006, 07:24 PM
there is NO way to parse that, other then to show that the 2 "equal" pet foci don't provide the same benifit.

It was talked about in beta aka no quote for joo !
Well if pet foci 1 adds 10 to a level 67 pets max hit, but only adds 8 to a level 72 pet's max hit, then I think you could parse that.

[Brahman]

Originally posted by Xislaben+Oct 25 2006, 02:53 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Xislaben @ Oct 25 2006, 02:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Brahman@Oct 25 2006, 07:24 PM
there is NO way to parse that, other then to show that the 2 "equal" pet foci don't provide the same benifit.

It was talked about in beta aka no quote for joo !
Well if pet foci 1 adds 10 to a level 67 pets max hit, but only adds 8 to a level 72 pet's max hit, then I think you could parse that. [/b][/quote]
but pet foci don't work like that.

it doesn't add a set number to the max hit, or a set number of levels, ect.

[Xislaben]

Originally posted by Brahman@Oct 25 2006, 07:54 PM
but pet foci don't work like that.

it doesn't add a set number to the max hit, or a set number of levels, ect.
If you know how pet foci work, would you care to fill in the blanks as to exactly how the pre-tss foci now decay on ts pets?

[Todwelt]

Originally posted by Zandramadass@Oct 25 2006, 04:54 PM
So to clarify pet focus is now degrading like our spell focus past a certain lvl?
I would say sort of.

If I remember right, the "pet power increase" portion of the focus drops a flat 10 for each focus below Servitor of Scale.

For instance, Nolaen's Lifereaper Sandals will only give a TSS pet, a power increase of 20. But will still give a power increase of 30 to a level 61-70 pet.

This degradation only applies to the TSS pets though. The power increase to pets is maintained for level 70 pets and below. However, it was supposedly compensated for by the increase in base dps and hp's of the TSS pets.

The pet power increase, I thought, has been an area of contention because no one besides the coders know exactly what it does.

[Maeryn]

Originally posted by Todwelt@Oct 26 2006, 11:42 AM
The pet power increase, I thought, has been an area of contention because no one besides the coders know exactly what it does.
My money's on "nothing".

Which reminds me, I've often wondered why I don't get any kind of a focus message when I summon a pet with my DP waist equipped. Should I just assume it's working, or what?

[Zandramadass]

You prolly have your "focus effects" hidden in the filter section. Most people disable this as its annoying seeing multiple focus fire every time you cast a spell and god knows necs cast more per mob than any other class except bards with their twisting.

[Maeryn]

Originally posted by Zandramadass@Oct 26 2006, 12:26 PM
You prolly have your "focus effects" hidden in the filter section.
I don't.

[Brahman]

basically...

i'm about 90% sure the devs set up a "new pet" for every "pet power". It isn't an actual mod as far as i know.

[Xislaben]

Yeah the pre-tss foci were apparently suposed to be current pet power -10 for tss pets.

However, is there any way to confirm that this went live?

[Brahman]

if the two pet foci with the same "pet power" rating don't focus the same.

but the reason i say i'm pretty sure they set them all by hand is because that was at least part of the reason why they would not make more then one rank of pets...

[Xelgadis]

Originally posted by Maeryn@Oct 26 2006, 11:11 AM
Which reminds me, I've often wondered why I don't get any kind of a focus message when I summon a pet with my DP waist equipped.* Should I just assume it's working, or what?
A pet focus isn't a real focus, in the traditional sense. When you summon a "focused" pet, you aren't summoning the base pet with +X to it's "power", you are summoning a completely different pet altogether.

To represent what's happening somewhat visually:

Lost Soul (Base)
Lost Soul (Summoner's Boon)
Lost Soul (Summoner's Blessing) <--- Focus isn't on any items, but the focus exists
Lost Soul (Minion of Darkness)
Lost Soul (Minion of Eternity)
Lost Soul (Ritual Summoning)
Lost Soul (Minion of Discord)
Lost Soul (Servant of Chaos)
Lost Soul (Spire Servant)
Rince and repeat the Lost Soul entries for Dark Assassin.

Riza`farr's Shadow (Base)
Riza`farr's Shadow (Minion of Darkness)
Riza`farr's Shadow (Minion of Eternity)
Riza`farr's Shadow (Ritual Summoning)
Riza`farr's Shadow (Minion of Discord)
Riza`farr's Shadow (Servant of Chaos)
Riza`farr's Shadow (Spire Servant)
Riza`farr's Shadow (Servitor of Scale)
Rince and repeat the Riza`farr's Shadow entries for Putrescent Servant.

Every pet, every focus (that applies to the pet) has a seperate set of data in some table of the database. When you summon a pet, the strongest focus you wear will determine which set of data is referenced and used for the pet you summon. This list is just the necro pets, and see how many different sets of data exist for the last 2 tiers of pets we get. Now take into consideration beastlord and magician pets as well, not to mention PoP pets etc., and it can be seen quickly how large and tedious this is, on the data side. Just from a pet perspective: Rytan, and now Prathun, had their work cut out for them everytime the level caps increased.

Edit: By set of data: The 7 main stats, resists, atk, AC, HP, mana (in the case of fire pets), min hit, base hit, max hit, min skill (backstab/bash/kick) hit, max skill hit, and a host of other NPC data items (but this should give a general idea).

[Ynai]

Does anyone know who/where drops the Enchanted Harpy Blade?

Allakhazam's doesn't list it.

Ynai is 52(almost 53) and i am wanting a pet foci. If you have a suggestion, please let me know.

Thanks

[winchester20]

Looking for the info as well. Saw the blade for sale in the Baz for 150k, and there's just no way I can shell out that kind of plat for one item. One really nice detail about the blade is that it is tradeable, not attuneable, so I can share it between mine and the wife's pet classes.

[Ynai]

saw a post on magicians tower(mage site) that some people got this, asked them if they tell where and who had it, no answer yet but only been short time. IF I find out will post it here.

[Xelgadis]

Originally posted by Ynai@Oct 26 2006, 06:52 PM
Does anyone know who/where drops the Enchanted Harpy Blade?

Allakhazam's doesn't list it.

Ynai is 52(almost 53) and i am wanting a pet foci. If you have a suggestion, please let me know.

Thanks
Minion of Darkness (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=4407)

Slot Description
1: Pet Power Increase(20)
2: Limit: Max Level(75)
3: Limit: Min Level(59)

In other words, while you can equip the item at 53, the focus is 100% useless to you til you get Emissary of Thule (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=1623&source=Live) at level 59.

At your level, the only pet focus you can get (that will actually focus your current pets) is Minion of Hate (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=4404&source=Live). The only item which has that focus is Encyclopedia Necrotheurgia (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=11571), which drops from Ashenbone Broodmaster (http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=6521) in the Plane of Hate.

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As far as the Enchanted Harpy Blade (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=46408), I don't know personally where/how this is aquired, but logic suggests that one should start their search in Blackfeather Roost. ;)

[jarfi]

I can confirm, it drops in the roost. I'll get more details from the guildie who looted it. And he got a decent BA4 item from there to, better then the shield from PoDisease..

[Brahman]

much clearer / acurate discription then i gave TY xel.

this does beg the question though.

Why the hell did they degrade the pet foci? just phasing some out, and thinking to themselves "this wont be as good as it used to be" woulda done the trick. All they did was cause alot of confuzzlment and bitching.

God damn i wish the devs were smart enough to write scripts to make data base entries for them.

[Xelgadis]

Originally posted by Brahman@Oct 27 2006, 09:18 AM
this does beg the question though.

Why the hell did they degrade the pet foci?
The general debate about why Summoner's Boon is still adding X% to pets, even though it was mostly itemized for PoP era pets, has been around for over a year now, in some information circles. The idea was that pet foci should degrade like normal foci, but since pet foci don't work like standard foci there would be more work involved in implementing such a change, as regular foci take care of themselves once they're set in stone.

Another problem is the growingly excessive range of foci that were effectively working on all "current" pets, there was too much saturation at the lower end (so to speak). Minion of Darkness is easily and readily available for anyone to aquire, that can even cast a TSS-era pet, so that made a good starting point for being the first foci that affected the new pets.

Addressing the 2nd problem more or less forced them to address the first problem.

The reason why they're making pet foci "degrade" is easier to see if you look at the whole thing at once.

Before TSS:
-Base
-Summoner's Boon
-Summoner's Blessing
-Minion of Darkness
-Minion of Eternity
-Ritual Summoning
-Minion of Discord
-Servant of Chaos
-Spire Servant

Had they simply just retired the first 2:
-Base
-
-
-Minion of Darkness
-Minion of Eternity
-Ritual Summoning
-Minion of Discord
-Servant of Chaos
-Spire Servant
-Servitor of Scale

Doing it this way creates a new problem in that if you have no focus, you have an incredibly weak pet compared to even having the "weakest" of applicable foci. Shifting every applicable focus down 2 notches was the only way to really address the new problem (the granularity between non-focused and focused pets), and it happened to address the first problem at the same time.

Currently:
-Base
-Minion of Darkness
-Minion of Eternity
-Ritual Summoning
-Minion of Discord
-Servant of Chaos
-Spire Servant
-Servitor of Scale

---------------------------------------------

The biggest misunderstanding from the "pet" community is that it's assumed that this degradation is across the board. The degradation of pet foci only applies to TSS pets, all previous eras of pets and the foci that work on them remain unchanged.

Next time level caps are increased, it's safe to expect that Minion of Darkness and Minion of Eternity will be retired, and the tiers will shift once again. Depending on how many new pet foci are introduced between now and then, and the availability of currently existing foci to casual players, retiring Ritual Summoning along with MoDarkness and MoEternity isn't unfathomable either.

[jarfi]

Originally posted by winchester20@Oct 27 2006, 01:34 AM
Looking for the info as well. Saw the blade for sale in the Baz for 150k, and there's just no way I can shell out that kind of plat for one item. One really nice detail about the blade is that it is tradeable, not attuneable, so I can share it between mine and the wife's pet classes.
Blackfeather Roost, third isle, random spawn called Enraged Griffon..

[Jonrago]

I've been 75 for a while now, and have never had any pet focus. Groups are kinda hard to come by on test so getting the LDoN Pet Focus isn't likely. Is there any pet focus that will effect my pets that I can reasonably solo or single group?

[Xislaben]

Originally posted by Jonrago@Oct 30 2006, 01:28 PM
I've been 75 for a while now, and have never had any pet focus. Groups are kinda hard to come by on test so getting the LDoN Pet Focus isn't likely. Is there any pet focus that will effect my pets that I can reasonably solo or single group?
DoN range (good) - Orb of Swarming Darkness
DoN range (ebil) - Sphere of Swarming Darkness
Minion of Darkness +13% DPS
1: Pet Power Increase(20)
2: Limit: Max Level(75)
3: Limit: Min Level(59)


Sold on DoN vendors for Radiant or Ebon crystals. Buy those in the baz, and solo a pet focus :P

[Jonrago]

Originally posted by Xislaben+Oct 30 2006, 03:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Xislaben @ Oct 30 2006, 03:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-Jonrago@Oct 30 2006, 01:28 PM
I've been 75 for a while now, and have never had any pet focus. Groups are kinda hard to come by on test so getting the LDoN Pet Focus isn't likely. Is there any pet focus that will effect my pets that I can reasonably solo or single group?
DoN range (good) - Orb of Swarming Darkness
DoN range (ebil) - Sphere of Swarming Darkness
Minion of Darkness +13% DPS
1: Pet Power Increase(20)
2: Limit: Max Level(75)
3: Limit: Min Level(59)


Sold on DoN vendors for Radiant or Ebon crystals. Buy those in the baz, and solo a pet focus :P[/b][/quote]
At current rates on test that's 34,000pp :blink:

[winchester20]

Thanks for the info, Jarfi.

[Xislaben]

Originally posted by Jonrago@Oct 30 2006, 09:41 PM
At current rates on test that's 34,000pp :blink:
Ohhhh you plat on *that* server.

Any other server it's like 2k plat ><

I created a toon there, realized I couldn't betabuff or copy over to test things, and said fuck it.

Go solo DoN missions for crystals. Just need three total in group to request em, if you can find that many people online :P

[HazardousPanic]

Originally posted by Xislaben+Oct 31 2006, 09:21 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Xislaben @ Oct 31 2006, 09:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Jonrago@Oct 30 2006, 09:41 PM
At current rates on test that's 34,000pp :blink:
Ohhhh you plat on *that* server.

Any other server it's like 2k plat ><

I created a toon there, realized I couldn't betabuff or copy over to test things, and said fuck it.

Go solo DoN missions for crystals. Just need three total in group to request em, if you can find that many people online :P [/b][/quote]
Rads are 26 on Quell. so about 8K.

[Winmancer]

Ok, have a question. I currently have the Minion of Darkness off of the Orb of Swarming Darkness. I just picked up the Vexed Silk Pants which I have the Transulent Power Source to turn them in the Shadow-Vexed version. I would then get the Minion of Eternity.

Is the +2% increase in dps worth it for this pet upgrade or should I save the TPS for another item if I manage to get one?

[Xislaben]

Got a new one
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/166/soluseknz0.jpg

[Stoleyour]

I just got the Qvic sandals with ritual summoning.... how come my lvl 65 pet Child of Bertoxxolus doesnt get a focus emote ?

[scrat]

Pet focus does not emote. Ever. Trust the bigger max hits, level increase, etc.

Nice item Xis - didn't realize a new focus had even came into the game with TBS.

[Dhau]

I've recently acquired servitor of scale focii,and my previous was the anguish focii, so i skipped the demi focii completely. DPS increase? yeah. But its damn near nothing. I mean, the idea of having stronger/better pets is very sexy, but these new focii do practically nothing, its pathetic.

I don't even understand, both demi/TSS fociii say pet power increase (45)....WHERES THE INCREASE?? And considering the fact that with EACH expansion our pets become less and less important compared to our overall DPS is just depressing.

All I'm asking for is that the focii has a significant impact on our pets performance, all around, RELATIVE to our own DPS. Otherwise, DKP is much better spent on fire/poison/magic focii, mana pres, etc. This is such a joke, how has this not been addressed already?

[hughman]

basically...

i'm about 90% sure the devs set up a "new pet" for every "pet power". It isn't an actual mod as far as i know.
I can support this. I remember just before TSS came out that one of the dev's (sorry I don't remember which) said that when you focus a pet is summons a totally different creature. That is why they put a minimum on pet focus, the couldn't make changes to all the pets cause it was too time consuming.

Loketh on Prexus.

[Heezy]

I just bought "The Sweeper" which has Minion of Eternity on my level 68 necro and cast Lost Soul (67 pet spell)

Minion of Eternity is level range 59-75 but I didn't get a "The Sweeper feels alive with power" message or anything like that when I cast my pet...

Did I mess up, or do pet focus items not give you a message?

[Fazzeel]

I don't think pet focus items are reporting right now. My DoN Orb with Minion of Darkness also does not glow with power or anything anymore. That is supposed to affect pets up to level 75 as well.

[Heezy]

You're right, my focus definately works (max hit is up considerably) without any message from the item.

Thanks :)

[Todwelt]

There is no message given for pet focus items ... from my understanding of it, a pet focus item will summon and "increased power" pet from the database; looks at a different column in the pet model database. The developers must create a new pet model for every pet/focus combination.

[Xislaben]

Added a few more group focus items that I didn't know about ><

[spoonr79]

Drowned Man's Hair (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=65859) has Minion of Darkness focus.

Drops from Mina the Miserable in Barren Coast

[Xislaben]

Drowned Man's Hair (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=65859) has Minion of Darkness focus.

Drops from Mina the Miserable in Barren Coast

Neat! They keep adding and adding, I swear ><

SoF should be interesting for pet foci...

[Meph]

Ummm Spike Covered Loop still drop off Aprosis np, it's just a bit rarer. Except if it was removed after 19th september when we had last one to drop. :P

[Xislaben]

Allegedly pet foci below Anguish level no longer work now in SoF. Need testing to be sure.

There, added some missing pet foci items.

[scrat]

Pet focus for 76-80 pets now start at Ritual Summoning according to Rytan; don't trust what lucy shows as min/max level anymore. The big change was introduction at spire servant & beyond a cloak in the "back" armor slot containing what was explained as appropriate mod2s to go along with the pet scaling. Just as pets are summoned with higher value AC armor based on focus, they now get summoned with a mod2 cloak. Things such as accuracy, etc. I was unable to parse any improvements in pet defensives using higher tier focus outside of raw AC gain (mitigation) and saw zero improvement on pet avoidance, dodge, riposte, etc. My findings were never reputed, so I expect it was intentional to forgo any actual defensive improvements on our pets via focus outside of raw AC gains.

Base Pet, no focus: 100%

Ritual Summoning +10% dps
Minion of Discord + 12.5% dps
Servant of Chaos + 15% dps

New Foci with Cloak_of_Mod2s:
Tier 1: Spire Servant + 17.5% dps
Tier 2: Servitor of Scale + 20% dps
Tier 3: Enhanced Minion I + 22.5% dps
Tier 4: Enhanced Minion II + 25% dps

Raid Foci including Cloak_of_Mod2s:
Tier 1: Enhanced Minion III + 27.5% dps
Tier 1: Enhanced Minion IV + 30%% dps
Tier 1: Enhanced Minion V + 32.5% dps
Tier 1: Enhanced Minion VI + 35%% dps

Here are some parsing results to give an example, zero pet AA to keep it simple, using 80 rogue pet & Sigil of the Abberant (post +STR change):
No Focus DPS @ 178
Ritual Sumoning DPS @ 184
SoChaos DPS @ 193
SpireServ DPS @ 199
ServofScale DPS @ 205

...having maxed pet crit/flury AA (SoF included) increases pet dps by another ~15% regardless of focus. I never bothered testing further once I saw the numbers were lining up with the expectations.

[Reyla]

In layman's terms, this does or does not work on the 77 and 80 pets?

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=52692

Minion of Eternity

[scrat]

In layman's terms, this does or does not work on the 77 and 80 pets?

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=52692

Minion of Eternity

Negative. This focus level was the cut-off point for 76+
Lucy shows this correct, Slot Description
1: Pet Power Increase(25)
2: Limit: Max Level(75)
3: Limit: Min Level(59)

[Todwelt]

Posted on another thread but will post it here as to not lose it and update at a later date as needed.
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http://h1.ripway.com/Todwelt/ss.JPG

The long and short of it I guess per lucy .... x marks the level of pet spell affected by the worn focus. Yellow are pets that get summoned with the additional mod2 cloak. Level 72 (green) is where the base pet stats were increased and those foci had a lesser effect on the pet. Not nerfed, just worked to a lesser degree but with the base pet being more powerful, supposedly evened out.

[iimdeadgirl]

So basically if you are not in a raid guild then after level 75 you dont get a pet focus. Thanks soe :mad:

[Immudin]

SoF groupable stuff
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=101640

next tier:
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=101724

There's also TBS
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=80258

And Goats in Qvic are easily groupable these days

[Xislaben]

So basically if you are not in a raid guild then after level 75 you dont get a pet focus. Thanks soe :mad:

Well, you can get the Demiplane raid pet focus Spire Servant, or the Ashengate/Frostcrypt raid pet focus Servitor of Scale from group drops now. Those both work to level 80.

[Siluuael]

Also, Magmaraug's Burning Essence (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=52770) drops off of a Brimstone Juggernaut in AG west and is easily groupable for the Ritual Summoning focus. I've done him and Argil Oppressor (same camp, drops the 30ac 60hp shield aug Crest of the Scarlet Legions (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=52240)) trio with a mage/cleric and was able to pretty easily stay ahead of respawns once we figured out where was the best place to stand while waiting for repops.

[Xislaben]

Also, Magmaraug's Burning Essence (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=52770) drops off of a Brimstone Juggernaut in AG west and is easily groupable for the Ritual Summoning focus. I've done him and Argil Oppressor (same camp, drops the 30ac 60hp shield aug Crest of the Scarlet Legions (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=52240)) trio with a mage/cleric and was able to pretty easily stay ahead of respawns once we figured out where was the best place to stand while waiting for repops.

It's already in the list :P Oh, you mean as another item you can group, ya, that's a good one.

[Siluuael]

Yeah, I was responding iimdeadgirl's "have to be in a raid guild" comment.

Speaking of pets... I have been pretty impressed with the 77 warrior pet, especially while kiting in Beza/Zeka, etc. He can actually survive after taking a few hits from the SoS gnome sneaks when I am running around carelessly, instead of be one-rounded like our previous pets.

Put some mage gear on him and he's getting close to legitimate, at least for offtanking lb/dbs in old world zones.

[Tumnayil]

The Draconic servant's want got changed to Enhanced Minion I instead of servator of scale.

[Xislaben]

The Draconic servant's want got changed to Enhanced Minion I instead of servator of scale.

Huh, it looks like all SoF pet foci got bumped up 1 level, so I moved em around.

[Siluuael]

My current pet focus is Servant of Chaos (Anguish). I'm wondering whether I should continue to grind points on the daily tasks to get the Beza earring (could obtain before Blackburrow is done), or whether to wait until I pick up the top group pet focus in Crystallos (likely take longer), which I have access to but haven't be farming in much due to farming the LGuk and upcoming Blackburrow events for my main and alts.

I don't rely on the pet for DPS much, so I guess them main question is how much pet survivability is gained by the mod2 cloak at the Demi/Beza level vs going to Crystallos group focus, and should I just go for that, knowing I'll likely replace it later as it'll help me survive when I need to pet tank during these events?

[TwoBuckChuck]

Whats the easiest/best pet focus for a non guilded necro to obtain at lvl 80? Any quested ones? I still use the LDON focus summoners boon lol.

[GnekroeGnomicon]

Whats the easiest/best pet focus for a non guilded necro to obtain at lvl 80? Any quested ones? I still use the LDON focus summoners boon lol.

Energized Wire Coil
Spire Servant +30% DPS

Get it with the new daily quests with Faycitium or whatever the currency. Costs just under 1000... Takes me about 20 mins to do the two acts and errand for 80 Faycitium a day.

I am sure some folks can do it faster than me. I am bound just outside of the guild hall. So I log in, gate, zone into guild hall, port to DSH. Get quests, evac (this just lets me do other things than run to the zone line... would otherwise be about the same time), go to LP. Do one act, go to HoS do second act. Gate, zone into guild hall, group with my 45 wizard who ports me to cobalt scar, zone into cobalt scar, zone into skyshrine, finish errand, gate, port back to DSH. Costs about 160p for the opening of the port to DSH and buying one faction mask in HoS each day.

I figure I will keep doing the daily quests until I get Ally with CoV and then I will see if I have motivation to do anything else.

[TwoBuckChuck]

I am going to have to start doing that...oh hold on that Sky Shrine? Pretty sure they hate me there, would i need to faction up to do that part?

[GnekroeGnomicon]

I dunno. You can do one of the other faction errand quests as well.

[Loophur]

nothing sees through invis till you get to the emissary. and these mobs are so weak nowadays, even if you aggro a few, shoudnt be a huge problem.

But took me about 7-8 Errands and 4-5 comabt quests to get from dubious to apprehensivly with CoV. so its gonna be along run till ally.

[Siluuael]

I have the Crystallos group pet focus at the moment (Enhanced Minion I), and that is not likely to change until after SoD comes out and new group items open up with better pet foci.

One question though, does anyone know what the stats on the Mod2 cloak are (when it shows up with Spire Servant) and how they change over the various focus levels? I know that the stats are not constant, but not what they are at each level. I'll check around on the EQLive forums and see if Merloc ever posted them.

[Todwelt]

I want to say it was Aristo that did the cloak not Merloc. Although I could be wrong, but I still don't think Merloc had anything to do with our pets.

[scrat]

Who made the cloak I'm not certain, but it was Rytan that was in control of what they provided. He never posted openly what the specifics were, only that they provided the essential mod2s such as avoidance, shielding, spell shield, dot shield, etc - and scaled with the focus level appropriately.

However, /testcopy is now live and functional. I haven't had the time to move to test and play, but figuring out what is on the cloak(s) is my top priority. Arena testing using the test dummies will be the only way to know for certain; if needed I can post my beta parses to give baseline offensive/defensives for both pets later. Would save some folks time.

[TwoBuckChuck]

Was one lucky Necro this weekend and picked up the Wing Gem of Command Earring. Thing I really like about this earring other than the instant click pet shrink, is the fact it turns my pet into a zombie! Never did the quest for that illusion so it was a bonus.

[Xislaben]

Major Dyadic Quartz (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=103127)

I assume this type 3 aug is unlocked by progressive unlocking of the void, and possibly in addition by raids, since it's better than the crystallos raid focus.

[Ultulus]

Aye, probably available in the last "void" which afaik is after you complete discord.

[Meph]

Major Dyadic Quartz (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=103127), Major Corrupted Quartz (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=103117) and Scorching Shadow rk. III (Spell: Scorching Shadow Rk. III) unlock in Void with Korachian Warrens raid.

Spell: Finsternacht Orb Rk. III (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=118767) is unlocked with Temple of Bertox - Malarian Queen raid.

Minor Corrupted Quartz and Minor Dyadic Quartz (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=103125) are unlocked with BlackBurrow raid.

[Alania]

Major Dyadic Quartz isn't available in void A or B with the Warrens mission done. Will check again after I get C.

This is at level 76 btw.

Not available in Void C at level 76. I'm assuming it's level restricted to 81+. I'll post after five more levels.

Not available at 81. Will check after each level.

[Xislaben]

faction/raid merchan aug - Greater Dyadic Quartz (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=103128)
Enhanced Minion VII ?% DPS
1: Pet Power Increase(85)
2: Limit: Max Level(90)
3: Limit: Min Level(76)

This aug became available to me, on zeb in the void F, after beating the Discord Tower raid 1.

[Meph]

Nice one!

[Xislaben]

Nice one!

lo, it also makes your rog sod pet look like an iksar skeleton!

[Xislaben]

faction/raid merchan aug - Glowing Dyadic Quartz (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=103129)
Enhanced Minion VIII ?% DPS
1: Pet Power Increase(90)
2: Limit: Max Level(90)
3: Limit: Min Level(76)

You unlock this in the void after beating the last event in Discord Tower.