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Lichmeister
06-16-2006, 07:20 PM
I'm tired of going to GL to get rezzed/hell its cheaper than buying an EE plus the xtra 3% rezz helps sometimes.Not too many toon want to lose xp anymore.I mean they average to about 450-600 pp in bazar on my server.I think EE should be tradeskillable somehow.I mean don't make them as easy as fishrolls to make but cmon'even Clerics don't need peridots for a while now to cast hp buffs.Tradeskilled by necro only /almost like a cultural thing would be nice.Sure the price would drop but so what!I would like to have a few with me in group situations and not haveing it cost me 2k every time .How about a cultural jewelcraft kit for use by necromancers only.Thats what I would like to see new.
Whispers Quietly
06-16-2006, 07:45 PM
With the spell http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/spell.html?spell=1734 (Infusion)
we'd be eating EE's like candy.
Maeryn
06-16-2006, 08:03 PM
Originally posted by Whispers Quietly@Jun 16 2006, 03:45 PM
With the spell http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/spell.html?spell=1734 (Infusion)
we'd be eating EE's like candy.
We'd also be called "Clerics"...
Hey, it's not that I enjoy spending 3 hours of my hard earned EQ time sac'ing someone down from 70 every other week, but there's a reason why Necros aren't Clerics... it's cuz we're not. Rezzing and buffing aren't our primary job. It's PART of what we do, but it isn't WHAT we do. That's how I see it anyway.
Nadori
06-17-2006, 12:44 AM
I havent used them yet.
One question tho ... i tought you couldn't sac a lvl 70
can someone please enlighten me
We are not clerics but we do have the ability to rezz. And with someone like me who just moved to a diff server i don't have the 400pp to spend on one EE. So to me that rezz as of now is useles.
And Infusion is a self buff thats really not worth the EE.
As for some of the other buffs we do (which are few) are very handy and make our class usefull.
Has nothing to do with being associated with other classes.
But something needs to be done about the difficultness of getting an EE.
I agree with the OP completly
Maeryn
06-17-2006, 01:29 AM
Originally posted by Nadori@Jun 16 2006, 08:44 PM
One question tho ... i tought you couldn't sac a lvl 70
can someone please enlighten me
You can't, you technically have to be 69. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
Drazzminius
06-17-2006, 02:01 AM
That would be awesome. I love tradeskills....
Except the constant, never ending clicking of the combine button....
And the money sink to get your skills over 200...
And the constant, never ending clicking of the combine button....
And the money sink to get your skills over 200...
And the constant, never ending clicking of the combine button....
And the money sink to get your skills over 200...
And the constant, never ending clicking of the combine button....
And the money sink to get your skills over 200...
And the constant, never ending clicking of the combine button....
And the money sink to get your skills over 200...
And the constant, never ending clicking of the combine button....
And the money sink to get your skills over 200...
And the constant, never ending clicking of the combine button....
And the money sink to get your skills over 200...
And the constant, never ending clicking of the combine button....
And the money sink to get your skills over 200...
:blink: :blink: :blink: :blink: :blink:
Whispers Quietly
06-17-2006, 03:13 AM
I "remember" once upon a day when I was rich. I says to myself, SAC someone, anyone. A kill is a good thing, even if it's consensual. I hollared in PoK many times, Paying 150pp per sac, buying all you have.
Everquest was leaving for EQII. plenty of takers. I was filling the Nexus up with Corpses, everyone hollaring I'm crashing the zone for them. Zone in; LD. I never cared. Selling EE's for cheaper than anyone else, always. they hated me. Necro's, LD people, Everyone...
I was called every name in book; I was just playing the game. Only way we could rez was with a EE, especially ourselves. I was not a Necro profiting on other necs, everyone had the ability to do it. I just took it to extremes, You needed plats, talk to me.
"Sac ye" no problem, lets talk.
In baz now on xegony 900 per EE. I still have 4 stacks, personal use. With Veteran awards though "Expediant recovery" I have never used one. With a clicker cleric around at higher LvL's, I personally see no use for a self rez.
Guild hall is available for everyone now. Summon corpse for 170+pp and clicker cleric who is bored has you covered.
How much would I pay for a 1000 mana is the real question. If I was in a fight with a super named mob, and I could win the fight with a couple dots; In a heartbeat, If i was Soloing.
I always solo however, thats my style of play, no guild. Just me and the mobs. It's not for everyone, but it is me.
As far as tradeskill, to what purpose except some complicated quest, Necro only.?
In my opinion, someone who has made over 400k Saccing players and has never used 1 personally, I cannot understand the use except extra mana in the game today. Used to be, we saved the raid: Still do, but our coffins are growing dust, Pulling the clerics out of Impossible rooms. Those days are gone in my opinion. everquest has balanced us out except for our awesome DPS. We are concentrated now on our dots, not other abilities. They are working on our dots however, fewer fire based; easiest to land.
So back to question, Why EE's as a tradeskill?
Sac's are available, go for it... it's fun
sauruman
06-17-2006, 06:10 AM
I've used easilly thousands of EE's. They have a huge raid and group application far past guild lobby reses.
I too worry about having EE's very easilly accessible because that would put us in fear of becomming a permanent res cleric.
Though there should be a better way of getting these then bazaar or spending endless hours saccing people.
Mallakith
06-17-2006, 07:07 AM
I have suggested in the past making the EE similar to banishment of shadows, Mob has to give xp leaves no corpse but makes you an essence emerald.
OR allow it to be used in pvp :)
Xislaben
06-19-2006, 01:19 PM
I either sac about once a month (though not typically from 70 to 46) or buy them in the baz. Fortunately many of my guildies have alts they don't want any more or inherit some toon on an account that's leaving the game shortly etc.
And when I use them on rez recovey, I use just one, on a clr, and they rez everybody else.
Jebasiz
06-19-2006, 02:19 PM
I had a stack of EE's on me when I entered Anguish. I still have 14 of those 20 well over a year later.
I don't really use them unless I have to. Typically wipe recovery IF no clerics get out, or dragging a mage corpse and fd'ing to set up coh. Both of those are fairly rare.
Xislaben
06-19-2006, 04:15 PM
Yo don't ever wipe to new content? Or do you have a normal rezer run back to the content? Or maybe just have some clr that are very good at camping out heh.
Jebasiz
06-19-2006, 04:18 PM
With call of the wild there's almost always a cleric, dru or shm that manages to camp out. I've been the only one left on sullon I think twice. Once in corruption of ro. That's about it recently(anything DoDH+).
Schaeffer
06-19-2006, 04:53 PM
With call of the wild there's almost always a cleric, dru or shm that manages to camp out. I've been the only one left on sullon I think twice. Once in corruption of ro. That's about it recently(anything DoDH+).
Don't let the Dev's know that, they'll think there's no reason to fix Willful Death...
Jebasiz
06-19-2006, 05:55 PM
Originally posted by Schaeffer@Jun 19 2006, 11:53 AM
With call of the wild there's almost always a cleric, dru or shm that manages to camp out. I've been the only one left on sullon I think twice. Once in corruption of ro. That's about it recently(anything DoDH+).
Don't let the Dev's know that, they'll think there's no reason to fix Willful Death...
I doubt we'll see a fix to willfull death as it stands now. Perhaps some follow along aa's that make it better, but as for fixing what we have...don't hold your breath.
Xelgadis
06-19-2006, 07:14 PM
At this point, they might as well put in a "patch" AA line for Willful Death, gives us more AA to grind. :rolleyes:
Edit: Ding, 1000 posts. :P
Schaeffer
06-20-2006, 02:10 AM
Moved the ranting here (http://www.necrotalk.com/index.php?showtopic=6198&st=0&#entry67151) Lets keep this thread clean, mkay?
Brahman
06-20-2006, 03:45 AM
EEs are fine the way they are.
a huge part of why they are so "hard" to get is to ensure necro's are not used for pumping 1k mana at a time into other toons, and for frequent rezzing. Its a balance issue. If they made them easy to get necro's would be huge dps and, once again, huge utility.
FCseven
06-20-2006, 07:33 AM
Originally posted by Lichmeister@Jun 16 2006, 02:20 PM
I'm tired of going to GL to get rezzed/hell its cheaper than buying an EE plus the xtra 3% rezz helps sometimes.Not too many toon want to lose xp anymore.I mean they average to about 450-600 pp in bazar on my server.I think EE should be tradeskillable somehow.I mean don't make them as easy as fishrolls to make but cmon'even Clerics don't need peridots for a while now to cast hp buffs.Tradeskilled by necro only /almost like a cultural thing would be nice.Sure the price would drop but so what!I would like to have a few with me in group situations and not haveing it cost me 2k every time .How about a cultural jewelcraft kit for use by necromancers only.Thats what I would like to see new.
450-600p sounds like a fair price to me.
Aryse Andenter
06-21-2006, 05:02 AM
Tryal and I tend to burn through a lot of EEs when we are figuring out how to duo some of the 'group' missions and things - mostly because it is important to get back into the mission in the same location. I used to use a lot more of them on raids than I do now - raid zones are so close now, and with instances it is so easy to just restart it too. I wish they were a little more available at the price I wanted to pay, but all in all I don't find them too bad considering what I'm capable of doing with them.
Hangman Gallows
06-21-2006, 05:08 AM
I used to do alot of Sacrifices so I could hand out the EEs to other guild necromancers. I easily spent 200k/month on EEs before the guild lobby came around. Since about then the necros also started leaving the guild and when I quit EQ last month I was spending around 10k every other month on EEs. The hard part was finding someone to sacrifice. People wanted 500 + each and I only paid 200 each.
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