Triality

[Aryse Andenter]

So anyways, here's the update. I'm not in that shit hole of a guild anymore.

Because of work schedules Tryal has had pretty crappy attendance for a while. This was what prevented me from leaving that pretty useless guild since he couldn't get into another and we wanted to be guilded together. Two weeks ago they removed him from the guild for lack of attendance (they like to keep their roster small). So I left too. The funny thing was this seemed to surprise some in the guild. Nobody who has spoken to me in the last several months really could possibly have missed how unhappy I was with the guild - the timing was remarkable really. I knew I had to take the past two weeks off from raiding as it was, and had commited to leaving the guild after that. So, I simply left before the holiday rather than after. Now I've had two weeks away and it has dulled my hatred enough to post rationally about the retardness that is Triality.

The lack of respect in the guild is shameful. Trying to get classes nerfed is a delight of the raid leader and a few others... and he'll be arguing that you should twitch at the same time as arguing that your DPS is too high and you should be nerfed. Then, the guild leader will argue back and forth for two pages that you should MW to get an extra 9k total damage out of a few casters, but will say he doesn't care if a necro in the guild is producing several hundred DPS less than he should be.

You'll suggest a strat on a fight, and then discover that you will have to argue your point for sometimes days no matter how obvious it seems - then they'll finally do it, have it work, and be like 'yeah of course'. And you'll bang your head on the wall again.

It took me and Tryal actually months to get them to use MW groups and cut down on twitching. Then, last month I had a cleric bitch at me that he wasn't getting it and say it was 'well known' that I didn't like the spell. Months I argued to be in a group with a cleric for that purpose and I am faced with this shit. And I wish I could say that this kind of stuff didn't happen regularly, but it did.

I knew when I joined the guild that they had no idea what a well played necro was. Somehow I figured that that would actually change their strat and attitude when they saw one. Tryal had a lot more patience to try and work with them when it turned out not to be true. But since he wasn't playing much it really just left me to get more and more withdrawn and irritated. If there had been nice people in the guild, I probably could have seen it worthwhile to stick it out. But...

They have cliques and will be caught trying to hide after hours events from other guild members. They aren't allowed to chatter in guild chat or raid chat... so you may be invited to a few channels, but even if you are (and its invitation only to specific people in the guild) you'll find that nobody talks in them much at all... I actually went days where I didn't speak to anyone in the guild beyond raid necessities like 'cure please'. The lack of socialization in the guild gave no incentive to want to work with them. I had a lot more friends out of the guild than in. And of course, there was always the concern that anything I said could be used in an argument to nerf necros later... makes you keep close-mouthed about alot of stuff.

I have never seen a sorrier guild that actually encouraged players to play incorrectly or way under their abilities to the extent that this one did.

I tried not to talk about them like that while I was in the guild, but since many of you have asked about them and people from the guild who post retarded things everywhere I thought I'd mention it, primarily to warn people off from ever being a necro who has to deal with them. So I hope that clears up all the "Why the hell are you with THOSE guys?" questions. And I'm not anymore :D

[Brahman]

i'm truely sorry you ever had to deal with them. No necro should ever be subjected to that guild. I heard some truely horrible things about them from a friend of mine.

[Pahrasyte]

I was in Triality, a while back and not as a necro. It was the same then as you say it is now. I've been in a lot of guilds, some before but more after i left triality.
Its safe to say they have more class jealous and issues with each other than any guild i've seen.

[Jebasiz]

Not that I wish them any happiness what-so-ever, I would probably consider deleting this Aryse. If word gets out that you badmouth guilds..well, your next invite might be a long time coming.

Say good-bye, if you can't wish them luck..just leave it at that. Bashing/flaming/critiquing on a public board isn't the best way to go about doing things.

[Aryse Andenter]

Best way to go about what Jeb? If my purpose was to vent and share negative information (as is generally the purpose of this forum) then I think I went about it perfectly.

Triality shit talks every other guilds on a regular basis.

I said nothing that was untrue, and nothing that was even extreme or specific - I gave general every day examples.

While I was in the guild I maintained more integrity of strats and guild information than their guild leader and raid leader.

In my experience not only do guilds not care at all if you were not pleased with your previous guild, if it is one of their competing guilds they actually delight in people bitching about it.

People have a right to know what a guild is like when they are guild hunting. I am sharing my information in actually a fairly mild way compared to what I actually experienced there.

I am 100% certain that this won't hurt me if and when I decide to app to another guild. And... I will not mention the numerous threads and discussions, some even named for members of Triality, that are already in this forum in which I took no part while I was in the guild.

[Schaeffer]

Originally posted by Aryse Andenter@Jul 3 2006, 02:10 AM
And... I will not mention the numerous threads and discussions, some even named for members of Triality, that are already in this forum in which I took no part while I was in the guild.
*cough* Dalnoth (http://www.necrotalk.com/index.php?showtopic=6041) *cough*

[Jebasiz]

Hey. It's your deal. Do what you want. I'm just saying there's probably better ways, to go about this. It's not like this is "new" information for most people who know about triality. Why Potentially *soil* your rep for them(for any perspective guilds down the road)?

Heh..my post on Dalnoth is just that. A post on Dalnoth. Not his guild. I'm also not a member, haven't been a member and will never be a member (or app) of Triality.

It just seems wrong to leave a guild and then put them down IMO. It's not like they forced you to stay in a situation you were unhappy in. You stayed of your own choice, and could've (perhaps should've) left before that much resentment built up.

I guess I always viewed you in a better light then this. Partly because you did stay out of comments on your guildmates in the past.

[Tryal Anderror]

It's largely to serve as a warning to anyone who might be considering joining them as well.

Given how hated they are on the Server itself as well, I doubt this will generate much Ill-will. It'd be different if the criticism came while still in the guild.

You keep saying 'Not the Best Way To Go about it'... the best way to go about what exactly?

[Aegrusnecrox]

Jeb honestly it wont be a problem for her. Every guild on maelin hates triality, so if she badmouths it, it will probably just make her look better to the guild of her choice.

Flame on Aryse, lord knows triality has it coming.

-Egg

[Ckador]

Maelin is a completely different atmosphere from where I came. They're more about playing the game and not getting into the dramatic bullshit.

Triality has never seemed to understand this. They try to create it and come off as pathetic losers.

They're not even hated in the "cool" way, either. Like certain people know they're assholes, they have fun with it. You may dislike them intensely, but deep-down, if not in public, you can at least admit to yourself they're sometimes mildly amusing in their assholishness.

Not Triality, though. They have no self/group-awareness of how bitter they come off. Guildchat there reminded me of listening in on some ex-wives support group meeting. Always talking about old shit, this person fucked them over, that guild did that, Abraham hit me with a wiffle ball bat, etc...

I could go into greater detail, but I'm lazy so I'll just leave you with this!

http://www.assentguild.com/pic/06172006f.jpg

[Kiiadi]

Im more out of the loop than I would like to be. While I knew there were problems there I hadn't know to what extent.

there that takes care of this thread.....

Reading this gave me an idea...
I think a thread that purtained to "Necros in Guilds" would be useful, posting such things as how necs are expected to raid and group with guild A. Or, guild B sucks in that they are effecient raiders but you get treated like utter shit. etc etc

Just saying for those LFGuild whether on server or serverTrans. It would be cool to have a Necro opinion about any particular guild.


I take this from my experience of when I was lfguildm Tri was on my list but not after I heard diff peoples opinions about it.

[Pahrasyte]

Originally posted by Ckador@Jul 3 2006, 04:01 PM


http://www.assentguild.com/pic/06172006f.jpg
$$

[Jebasiz]

You heard anyway. That's kinda the point. Now, noway do I like the more "outspoken" members of Triality. They're drama whores IMO, with enough class jealousy to choke a horse(or anything else that's hard to choke). That said, I'm sure there's some cool people there and don't need the slander on them. Thus bashing the whole guild saying it's a "shit hole guild" I think is in bad form. You could say the leadership doesn't appreciate necromancer contribution, or that you thought YOU were treated unfairly by that leadership..but to out and out call the whole guild shit, (I feel) doesn't represent yourself well.

Their reputation is probably well deserved on their server, and in most cases over time that will cause a guild a premature death(due to difficulty in recruiting and a "revolving door" type atmosphere). They're peaking now..every peak has a trough that follows. Just sit quietly and wait for "that trough", and when it comes
E N J O Y I T, quietly.

A guild opinion thread..well, that might get a lot of people in some hot water. If you're thinking of joining a guild, look at their roster..find out who the necros are, and talk to them. More then likely if you're going to be approved to recruit you'll have to talk to them anyway.

[Aryse Andenter]

Originally posted by Jebasiz@Jul 3 2006, 04:38 PM
They're drama whores IMO, with enough class jealousy to choke a horse(or anything else that's hard to choke). That said, I'm sure there's some cool people there and don't need the slander on them. Thus bashing the whole guild saying it's a "shit hole guild" I think is in bad form. You could say the leadership doesn't appreciate necromancer contribution, or that you thought YOU were treated unfairly by that leadership..but to out and out call the whole guild shit, (I feel) doesn't represent yourself well.
Well, here's the thing. When the guild culture is about class on class hate and disrespect... it doesn't matter if individual people are nice or not, because of the manner the guild behaves as a whole and expects of its members. There were certainly a lot of jerks and assholes in Hate - but the guild focused on unity (even if it was unity in hatred). There are certainly some nice people in Triality - but the guild focused on division.
While the Triality holds a special vinidictiveness for necros and they are probably the worst treated class, casters are all treated poorly, as are several other classes. It is not just that the leadership doesn't appreciate necromancer contribution - it is that nobody in the guild appreciates contribution from anyone else. I don't think I was treated any more unfairly than a great deal of other members in the guild were, and certainly there are members of the guild who are downright abused, and that was never me. I do not even think it is isolated as a leadership issue, as officers and leadership changed several times while I was in the guild.

That guild's creed may as well be to bring each other down. This is both in strats and what methods of play they encourage and discourage in their members, and on the messageboards and nerf calls.

Thus it is exactly that I must 'bash the whole guild' since it is a guild problem rather than a member problem - it doesn't have a lot to do with who is in the guild, I don't even think the responsibility entirely rests with the guild leadership, and I'm not going to critisize individuals who may behave very differently if they were in a guild with a different culture and different expectations than Triality. However I will critisize Triality for having that culture.

[Brahman]

jeb seriously just stfu.

You just have a grossly exagerated sense of whats "right". EVERYtime there has been something that possibly brought up right/wrong in anything, you have been in the wrong.

So just stfu.

Aryse has every right to vent a bit, more so considering the guild and the overall scheme of things on that server. What I know about that guild is more than enough to know DAMN well that Aryse has been VERY kind to them in this "flame" and has said very little of what actually happens there. Just enough to warn people about the guild, and in all honestly lots of people love drama. To them the above was a ringing endorsement.

So just stfu.

[Jebasiz]

Who are you again? ohh that's right, the same guy that was removed from recruitment for bashing a guild after 4 hours of said recruitment! I guess I *should* coalesce to your vast experience on when(and where!) it's "OK" to bash a guild and when it's not(although you've proven you have no fucking clue already). Since you've done it so much.

Then again, you also would know who "loves drama" more then me to, considering your own desire for it.

Seriously, YOU STFU. Dirty laundry *should* stay in house IMO. If you have a problem with a person or group of people, you either discuss it with them and solve it, or(if that's not possible) walk away. Telling people on a public messageboard that "guild X" is a piece of shit, under the pretense of "I'm trying to warn my brethren" is not a mature reaction/response etc, after removing yourself from a guild.

If someone really is intent on recruiting to the guild and doesn't check them out, they get what they deserve.

As I said before, a guild built on division will succeed. Enjoy the troughs, there's no need to tarnish your name to "warn" anyone about them...most people(who would recruit to a guild of that progression, with the playtime they demand) already know.

Brahman, you're a whore. Go play in traffic.

[Xebitikz]

I don't know Triality, but I believe them to be whores.

Also I will be sucking people off for 20dollars after the show.

I hate whores.

[Kiiadi]

Originally posted by Jebasiz@Jul 3 2006, 11:57 AM
Dirty laundry *should* stay in house IMO. If you have a problem with a person or group of people, you either discuss it with them and solve it, or(if that's not possible) walk away. Telling people on a public messageboard that "guild X" is a piece of shit, under the pretense of "I'm trying to warn my brethren" is not a mature reaction/response etc, after removing yourself from a guild.
Jeb did you read her post (one at 11:30) clearly describe a problem wherein all casters were treated badly. And in my honest opinion a guild that has members treat others badly and fails to do something about it is a guild that I wouldnt like to join and deffinately would like to know that type of info before looking any further into them.

and just for record.... my example in earlier post was just that .. an example... I have a guild and have not been and am not lfg atm =)

[Jebasiz]

$20!!!!!!!!! In Taiwan it's like $5, or that's what the west coast sailors said they paid.

[Jebasiz]

Originally posted by Kiiadi+Jul 3 2006, 01:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Kiiadi @ Jul 3 2006, 01:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Jebasiz@Jul 3 2006, 11:57 AM
Dirty laundry *should* stay in house IMO.* If you have a problem with a person or group of people, you either discuss it with them and solve it, or(if that's not possible) walk away.* Telling people on a public messageboard that "guild X" is a piece of shit, under the pretense of "I'm trying to warn my brethren" is not a mature reaction/response etc, after removing yourself from a guild.
Jeb did you read her post (one at 11:30) clearly describe a problem wherein all casters were treated badly. And in my honest opinion a guild that has members treat others badly and fails to do something about it is a guild that I wouldnt like to join and deffinately would like to know that type of info before looking any further into them.

and just for record.... my example in earlier post was just that .. an example... I have a guild and have not been and am not lfg atm =) [/b][/quote]
I read it, yes. I think everyone that has played eq has gone through some time where they weren't happy in their guild. Their guild was dying, or heading a direction they didn't want to go (IE hard core progression/raiding, after being casual/family with some progression). That or some influential people left and the attitude of the guild and treatment of the members left with them, and was replaced by behaviors and mindsets that were much less pleasing(to you). That doesn't mean you post how much they suck on a public forum.

If you recruit into an environment that sucks, it's your own fault for staying and finishing recruitment. To go a bit further, an environment like Aryse has described doesn't come about overnight. It takes time, and if you see that happening..you either change it, or leave if that's not possible. Venting about people simply being what they are, is pointless. It's not like it was different when she joined Triality. Subjecting herself to that treatment and environment is her own doing. If there's any anger, it should be directed at herself.

A very drastic example..it'd be like someone going to KKK meetings (or whatever the fuck they have) for 8 months, and then being ticked off because they were a bunch of racists. Well, no shit. Same thing here. You joined a guild (allegedly) full of a bunch of jealous and trivial bastards..and then got ticked off that they are (again, allegedly) a bunch of jealous and trivial bastards.

Look, I think Aryse is nice. I even like talking to her. Before she did this, I'd of liked to be guilded with her..now, since I have to wonder "what will she say/post if she's not happy in my guild?" I'm not sure I'd want to be guilded with her anymore. That's all I'm saying. Why create that doubt?

People look at threads like these, and have to wonder. If you're a great guild(and I'm not calling Triality a great guild), with a great environment and great people. If her opinion differed from that, and she didn't like it/them, well..it'd suck for her to post things that would illustrate that.
That and was does it really accomplish for her? Does it warn other necs? Perhaps, but not looking into a guild before recruiting to them is just stupid. You shouldn't have to be told...you should find out for yourself.

[Pahrasyte]

Jeb, the KKK thing is a stupid example, doesn't even fit. had she left because raiding is retarded, then you'd have something.

[Xebitikz]

Originally posted by Jebasiz@Jul 3 2006, 02:21 PM
$20!!!!!!!!! In Taiwan it's like $5, or that's what the west coast sailors said they paid.
This is America, pay up!

[Jebasiz]

Originally posted by Pahrasyte@Jul 3 2006, 02:56 PM
Jeb, the KKK thing is a stupid example, doesn't even fit. had she left because raiding is retarded, then you'd have something.
Not really. Last I heard, Triality doesn't tout themselves as a family guild. I'd also be surprised if they don't tell you that you need a thick skin to join them. Basically, they are what they say they are. IF you know that going in and then are pissed off cuz it's true...

[najiwench]

Originally posted by Jebasiz@Jul 3 2006, 04:38 PM
They're drama whores IMO, with enough class jealousy to choke a horse(or anything else that's hard to choke).
actually horses choke rather easily...

[Schaeffer]

Originally posted by najiwench@Jul 3 2006, 06:11 PM
actually horses choke rather easily...
Easier than chickens?

[najiwench]

Originally posted by Schaeffer@Jul 3 2006, 10:21 PM

Easier than chickens? [/quote]
nah, chickens are pretty easy to choke...but because of their long necks and fairly narrow esophagus and wind pipe, horses are more prone to choking than many realize.

[najiwench]

Originally posted by Jebasiz@Jul 3 2006, 06:43 PM
now, since I have to wonder "what will she say/post if she's not happy in my guild?" I'm not sure I'd want to be guilded with her anymore. That's all I'm saying. Why create that doubt?
and see, i would only be worried about that if

a. i was in a guild that was like that

or

B. she was telling lies, and since nobody has come up and said "now, aryse, what you're saying isn't really 100% true, Triality isn't that bad"..actually they've said the opposite...then i really wouldn't be worried about it /shrug

but that's just me

[thefallen]

i actually think considering the situation aryse was very diplomatic in her post
and people with experience with that guild have said as much

personally i'd give her bonous points for sticking to her word with her friend even tho wasn't a "fun" thing to do


just my thoughts on it

[Tryal Anderror]

Originally posted by Jebasiz+Jul 3 2006, 09:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Jebasiz @ Jul 3 2006, 09:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Pahrasyte@Jul 3 2006, 02:56 PM
Jeb, the KKK thing is a stupid example, doesn't even fit. had she left because raiding is retarded, then you'd have something.
Not really. Last I heard, Triality doesn't tout themselves as a family guild. I'd also be surprised if they don't tell you that you need a thick skin to join them. Basically, they are what they say they are. IF you know that going in and then are pissed off cuz it's true... [/b][/quote]
But They don't advertise themselves as stupid, stubborn and resistant to new ideas.

Most guilds at the level insult each other all the time, We were in Hate remember, but That's not the complaint. The complaint was more that their was a whole culture of everyone actively trying to hurt the other members in their own guild.

It's a totally caustic environment, but it is one they deny exists publically, even though everyone inside and outside can clearly see it.

So yeah, the KKK thing is a dumb example.

[Brahman]

Who are you again? ohh that's right, the same guy that was removed from recruitment for bashing a guild after 4 hours of said recruitment! I guess I *should* coalesce to your vast experience on when(and where!) it's "OK" to bash a guild and when it's not(although you've proven you have no fucking clue already). Since you've done it so much.

so lets see...

going off in a channel with friends that something is pissing me off is a bad thing? el wrongo.

You flipped out, ratted out a buddy instead of handling it "in house" as you are suggesting should have been done. Calling a SHITTY guild a SHITTY guild got me in no trouble, hell it even saved me the trouble of deguilding myself from a shitty guild, prevented me from apping to nothing and indeed because other guilds on the server knew them to be a shitty, drama infested, POS guild, indeed my honesty to what happened there gave the leadership a laugh and that was it.

Again, your sense of "morals" is what is twisted. I don't see anyone else argueing your way here man. Not that something so trivial would stop me from argueing it either. So have at it.

Look, I think Aryse is nice. I even like talking to her. Before she did this, I'd of liked to be guilded with her..now, since I have to wonder "what will she say/post if she's not happy in my guild?" I'm not sure I'd want to be guilded with her anymore. That's all I'm saying. Why create that doubt?

i'm pretty sure you are the only one that comes up with that hair brained shit. I'm sure we all know that me and aryse are not exactly buddies. But i have little doubt that we could be in the same guidl without incident. so once again, you just need to STFU.

[Jebasiz]

Stupid, stubborn and resistant to new ideas are primary characteristics of like 90% of the population. I guess I just expect that out of people and am pleasantly surprised when some one or a group of people are different.

Some leaders are receptive to new ideas, some aren't. If they're not receptive it's very likely that's a characteristic of their personality and isn't going to change to accomodate anyone, no matter how much you argue(IE it's pointless).

Flaming or bashing a guild, however "mild" or "deserved" it is never really gets the author anywhere "good". At least not from what I've seen. Which is what prompted my original post.

[Brahman]

Stupid, stubborn and resistant to new ideas are primary characteristics of like 90% of the population.

have you ever considered maybee there is something wrong with the way you try to communicate? Cause for a society made up of 90% stupid, stubborn, idiots that can't handle new thinking we have a remarkably mobile society in almost every regaurd. Really things have changed so drastically in just the last 50 years that its nothing short of awe inspiring. Hell just in the last 15 years things have changed enough to really be difficult to fully grasp.

I suppose its everyone else thats a moron, couldn't be that you have some issues.

[Aegrusnecrox]

Brahman I am afraid that you are the only one here who has issues.

Why don't you take it down a notch, hmm? Instead of just jumping in to assault jeb whenever he says anything, even when it's not related to you, perhapse you could just keep your mouth closed. Seriously, it's irritating.

Or maby next time you have the urge to verbally abuse people, you could go outside and slam your head into the sidewalk repeatedly.

Thx,

-Egg

[najiwench]

seriously..i actually disagreed with jeb on this particular issue..but seeing brahman's replies made me reconsider....i still disagree but that doesn't change the fact brahman is a beating

[Mallakith]

Woo popcorn...

I go away for a coupla days and miss a thread i cant believe it.

Personally I think Jeb was sending the right intentions. I also dont think posting a "Guild is shit" message particularly helps (In this case Triality reallly wont give a shit but future guilds CAN view you as a troublemaker).

However its good to vent at times and I think Aryse was polite and well written and probably just "had to say something".

Im not on Maelin and tbh had never heard of the guild in question but would also agree that if the leader of a guild is as pigheaded as has been intimated there would be little benefit in trying to "change his opinion".

I failed an application to a guild once because I talked too much during non-raiding time. Im sorry but in guildCHAT i like to CHAT. However stupid Ive found some guild rules Its my nature to shrug and move on. THat rule even if accepted I would probably have pissed off too many ppl before long

[Xebitikz]

You people are fags.

[Jebasiz]

http://www.businessleader.com/JohnGrinnell...veSelfTalk.html (http://www.businessleader.com/JohnGrinnell-NegativeSelfTalk.html)

Of particular interest;

He went on to tell me that the human systems are just as logical as accounting practices or engineering models, but operate by a different type of logic he called "psycho-logic." That is, "given a similar set of circumstances people tend to think and act the same way over, over and over again.

Originally posted by Tryal
QUOTE (Jebasiz @ Jul 3 2006, 09:04 PM)
QUOTE (Pahrasyte @ Jul 3 2006, 02:56 PM)
Jeb, the KKK thing is a stupid example, doesn't even fit. had she left because raiding is retarded, then you'd have something.


Not really. Last I heard, Triality doesn't tout themselves as a family guild. I'd also be surprised if they don't tell you that you need a thick skin to join them. Basically, they are what they say they are. IF you know that going in and then are pissed off cuz it's true...


But They don't advertise themselves as stupid, stubborn and resistant to new ideas.

Most guilds at the level insult each other all the time, We were in Hate remember, but That's not the complaint. The complaint was more that their was a whole culture of everyone actively trying to hurt the other members in their own guild.

It's a totally caustic environment, but it is one they deny exists publically, even though everyone inside and outside can clearly see it.


http://business.nmsu.edu/~dboje/teaching/490_psl/step_9.htm
Characteristics of leadership:
Powerful, aggressive type. Self-confident, strong, and assertive. Protective, resourceful, straight-talking and decisive, but can also be proud and domineering. Feel they must control their environment, becoming confrontational and intimidating: everything is a contest of wills and they seldom back down. Can become hard-hearted and openly belligerent.
Examples: Joseph Stalin, Henry Kissinger, Mick Jagger, King Henry VIII, Muhammad Ali, Julius Caesar, Vladimir Putin, Zhu Rongji, Karl Marx

Sounds guild leader-ish to me. Currently I have the great luxury of having a GL/RL that is both an exception and exceptional.

Unfortunetly(I guess) I can't find an article stating that 90% of the population is a mass of blathering idiocy(in the 10 or so minutes that I've looked), although I've always heard that 10% of the people do 90% of the work. Which just may account for your sudden show of humanism in your last bullshit post, which I'm taking as nothing more then another feeble attempt to make me look like a "bad guy".

Anyway, enjoy your pathetic life. I'm done with you.

[Maeryn]

Just my opinion, but did we really have to turn this into a mud-flinging free-for-all, when all anyone was trying to do was just share a difference of opinion?

That said, I understand the need to vent and I also understand the need to keep your dirty laundry "in house" so to speak. I honestly don't see how you can call either one right or wrong. Jeb wouldn't, Aryse did, and I think that's all Jeb was trying to say. I can respect both opinions, and what both did or would do in this situation. We really don't need to start with the name calling and the finger pointing and the temper tantrums. Most of us have been in similar situations to what Aryse described and I think we can all agree that they suck and there really is no "good" way of handling it, unfortunately.

As a side note, does anyone else get a continuous mental image of Jan Brady going "Look at me! Look at me!" every time they read Brahman's posts? :ph34r:

[GnekroeGnomicon]

As a side note, does anyone else get a continuous mental image of Jan Brady going "Look at me! Look at me!" every time they read Brahman's posts? That sums it up very well.

[Jebasiz]

LMAO the Brahman bunch..

[Ckador]

I see what Jeb is saying, and imo it's true. But on the other hand, speaking from personal experience and in this case, nothing bad will come of this to Aryse, at least as far as Maelin is concerned.

Bad-mouthing Triality on Maelin is like bad-mouthing NAMBLA irl, is basically what I'm getting at. This is a generalization, as there are and have been really cool people in Triality that I won't single out here due to the mentality of some of the members (Orruar and Dalnoth in particular - Leader and Officer respectively) in case they ever see this.

I wouldn't worry, but then again I'm of the mentality that for every 10 people you piss off, there's another 20 cheering you on as long as you're doing it with style. ~_^

[Nadori]

I heard of the guild but i didn't know much about them . Thank you Aryse for informing your fellow necro friends that this might not be the best guild to join. It's well appreciated.

I'm sorry that they made you unhappy :( . You being one of the most informed necros in the comunity you deserve so much better and i hope you get it. Also knowing what i do know of you so far i can tell that this was not an easy post for you to make and that you did it in a very diplomatic manner. I'm glad you didn't bash anyone or post this on their boards (or their competing guilds boards) but you did choose to post it among your friends and warn them.


Hope everithing works out for you and Tryal.

[GnekroeGnomicon]

I would like to make the formal invitation to Aryse and Tryal to come to Drinal, and make a raiding guild out of mine and Schaef's rag tag group of casuals :P

Either that or just help us finish our darned 1.5's :P

[Brahman]

Originally posted by "jeb da dim"
Anyway, enjoy your pathetic life. I'm done with you.

that would be the 123123123rd time you have said that, and yet you continually bring me up, often in threads i have not posted on, and despite you trying to draw me out continue to not post in.

BTW, you trying to post that stuff is like watching a monkey try to program. Sure, if you don't know programming it can look like they are doing it...

[Jebasiz]

At no point were you brought up in this thread other then response to your own stupidity(which you volunteered of your own accord). I HIGHLY doubt that I've brought you up anywhere without you posting on a subject/thread first. See, I'd rather not think about you, or talk about you or have anything to do with you. I'm not the one with your name in my sig. Think about that for just a minute. Then realize you're a fucking fag.

edit: now I'm done.

[Brahman]

Originally posted by Brahman+Jul 5 2006, 02:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Brahman @ Jul 5 2006, 02:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-"jeb da dim"
Anyway, enjoy your pathetic life. I'm done with you.

that would be the 123123123rd time you have said that, and yet you continually bring me up, often in threads i have not posted on, and despite you trying to draw me out continue to not post in.

BTW, you trying to post that stuff is like watching a monkey try to program. Sure, if you don't know programming it can look like they are doing it... [/b][/quote]

yup, you have and if i was as wraped up in you as you are in me i would prove it. but lots of people reading this know you have.

EDIT:::

At no point were you brought up in this thread other then response to your own stupidity

oh sorry i missed that lil detail. I was talking about other threads that are peppered through the entire board where you talk about me.

[Maeryn]

Originally posted by Brahman+Jul 5 2006, 03:42 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Brahman @ Jul 5 2006, 03:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Brahman@Jul 5 2006, 02:27 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-"jeb da dim"
Anyway, enjoy your pathetic life. I'm done with you.

that would be the 123123123rd time you have said that, and yet you continually bring me up, often in threads i have not posted on, and despite you trying to draw me out continue to not post in.

BTW, you trying to post that stuff is like watching a monkey try to program. Sure, if you don't know programming it can look like they are doing it...

yup, you have and if i was as wraped up in you as you are in me i would prove it. but lots of people reading this know you have. [/b][/quote]
Brahman, you do realize that you just quoted your own post and replied to it... right?

[Brahman]

yes.

its making the point that...

jeb says he is done with me in every thread. and yet always continues talking about me, often in threads which i have not even posted in.

[Maeryn]

Originally posted by Brahman@Jul 5 2006, 04:01 PM
yes.

its making the point that...

jeb says he is done with me in every thread. and yet always continues talking about me, often in threads which i have not even posted in.
Just checkin'.

[Brahman]

here i'll edit it for clarity.

[Maeryn]

Originally posted by Brahman@Jul 5 2006, 04:07 PM
here i'll edit it for clarity.
I think we're a little beyond that, don't you?

[Brahman]

its never to late to clarify something.

[Nadori]

Originally posted by Maeryn+Jul 5 2006, 12:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Maeryn @ Jul 5 2006, 12:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Brahman+Jul 5 2006, 03:42 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Brahman @ Jul 5 2006, 03:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Brahman@Jul 5 2006, 02:27 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-"jeb da dim"
Anyway, enjoy your pathetic life. I'm done with you.

that would be the 123123123rd time you have said that, and yet you continually bring me up, often in threads i have not posted on, and despite you trying to draw me out continue to not post in.

BTW, you trying to post that stuff is like watching a monkey try to program. Sure, if you don't know programming it can look like they are doing it...

yup, you have and if i was as wraped up in you as you are in me i would prove it. but lots of people reading this know you have. [/b][/quote]
Brahman, you do realize that you just quoted your own post and replied to it... right? [/b][/quote]


Maeryn , you do realize that you are so eager to kiss jeb's ass that you didnt even read the post youre flaming... right?


Anywho...lets keep this tread on topic and not tun it into another e penis fight

[najiwench]

Originally posted by Maeryn@Jul 5 2006, 05:02 PM
As a side note, does anyone else get a continuous mental image of Jan Brady going "Look at me! Look at me!" every time they read Brahman's posts? :ph34r:
/snicker

[najiwench]

Originally posted by GnekroeGnomicon@Jul 5 2006, 06:55 PM
I would like to make the formal invitation to Aryse and Tryal to come to Drinal, and make a raiding guild out of mine and Schaef's rag tag group of casuals :P

Either that or just help us finish our darned 1.5's :P
*sigh* annihila's still collecting dust on drinal!

[Insalubrity]

Maeryn , you do realize that you are so eager to kiss jeb's ass that you didnt even read the post youre flaming... right?

I know this is probably off topic so I do apologize mods but, nadori, you do realize that in a lot of the threads youve flamed someone in, theyve gone after your boyfriend first to seemingly 'provoke' you, right? Is this not the same woman who guilt tripped me when I made a joke about someone youre friends with because 'you should be the bigger person and not take the shot when you have it"?

However, maybe you do agree with him on everything *shrug*

[Pahrasyte]

Brahman and Jeb have such a perfect relationship. Brahman with his dire need of attention and Jeb with his dire need to prove that he's better than everyone else. They need each other, can't live without each other... if one of them were to leave this board, the other would continue to reference thier relationship for months, maybe years, to come.

The human being is a miracle of nature, Its flaws being its best attributes.

[Schaeffer]

Originally posted by Insalubrity@Jul 5 2006, 05:19 PM
I know this is probably off topic so I do apologize mods
This is the Inferno...

there's no such thing as offtopic here.

[Nadori]

I understand that Insa and if you have read the whole tread you would realise that i stay out of Jeb and Brah's arguments. Jeb is a friend of mine and Brah is my bf. That being said it irritates me how she sticks her nose in it every time. And sometimes she has a good cause and somethimes she just does it because of Jeb.

In this case i do agree with brahman. But you're right sis and i have gone a bit further than i actually would if she wasn't saying that to brahman.

[Maeryn]

Originally posted by Nadori@Jul 5 2006, 04:46 PM
Maeryn , you do realize that you are so eager to kiss jeb's ass that you didnt even read the post youre flaming... right?

Anywho...lets keep this tread on topic and not tun it into another e penis fight
First, I don't kiss anyone's ass. Ever. All I've done on these boards since day one was express my opinion, just like everyone else.

Second, I read the posts. All of them. Jeb will tell you that he and I tend to disagree on like 9/10ths of what goes on here, and if you'll read MY post, you'll see that I said I wasn't siding wither either Jeb or Aryse, just saying that I thought they both had a good point and that I didn't think there was any reason for anyone to be calling either of them names.

The entire purpose of my post was to get the subject back to Aryse's original post, and off Brahman's little bid for attention. This is the second time now that you've completely misinterpreted what I said and why, I can only assume on purpose, and tried to make me look like a fool. I don't know what your deal with me is, but it's pretty uncalled for imo.

[Ckador]

ARYSE REWLZ TRIALITY DREWLZ, K?

[Schaeffer]

http://www.nerf-herders-anonymous.net/images/DeepRoy_NeverEndingStory_TeenyWeeny.jpg

[Brahman]

yeah. i'm begging for attention. this is why i post in so many different threads.

[Brahman]

oh wait...

[Ckador]

Originally posted by Schaeffer@Jul 5 2006, 09:35 PM
http://www.nerf-herders-anonymous.net/images/DeepRoy_NeverEndingStory_TeenyWeeny.jpg
That guy looks a little bit like Jeb!

And this guy looks a little bit like me trying to figure out WTF is going on this thread!

http://www.neverendingstory.com/images/Image047.jpg

[Schaeffer]

http://static.flickr.com/31/38833175_0d66f04a76.jpg

[GnekroeGnomicon]

I personally prefer the bikini clad cartwheelin' attention whore picture, but Schaeff has his own tastes. :D

[Brahman]

Schaeffer you are not http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v390/brahman/attentnwhore.jpg

[Schaeffer]

Am too

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/turtle777/attention_whore.jpg


That better gnome(s)?

[Brahman]

jebs love affair with me is...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v390/brahman/never.jpg

[GnekroeGnomicon]

That better gnome(s)? This thread has been saved!

[Ckador]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v390/brahman/never.jpg

Look at Brahman off to the side (with the glasses). Fucking attention Whore just had to put himself in there.

[Schaeffer]

That made me lol irl

[Felicite]

Originally posted by Nadori@Jul 5 2006, 02:28 PM
Brah is my bf
Nooooooooooooooooooooooo.

T_T

*quietly erases all drafts of the 'Nadori is the hottest chick on Necrotalk' thread*

Taking a week off the boards for mourning. See you 7/12.

[Nadori]

Originally posted by Felicite+Jul 5 2006, 02:38 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Felicite @ Jul 5 2006, 02:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Nadori@Jul 5 2006, 02:28 PM
Brah is my bf
Nooooooooooooooooooooooo.

T_T

*quietly erases all drafts of the 'Nadori is the hottest chick on Necrotalk' thread*

Taking a week off the boards for mourning. See you 7/12. [/b][/quote]
Lmao too cute


<3 Fel

[GnekroeGnomicon]

Even in EQ all the hot ones have bf's :P

/wink,wink,nudge,nudge

[Jebasiz]

Originally posted by Nadori@Jul 5 2006, 04:28 PM
I understand that Insa and if you have read the whole tread you would realise that i stay out of Jeb and Brah's arguments. Jeb is a friend of mine and Brah is my bf. That being said it irritates me how she sticks her nose in it every time. And sometimes she has a good cause and somethimes she just does it because of Jeb.

In this case i do agree with brahman. But you're right sis and i have gone a bit further than i actually would if she wasn't saying that to brahman.
She made an observation that was pretty goddamned neutral.
How the fuck did she kiss my ass?

If anything, (since you brought it up) it was YOU kissing Aryse's ass to support your boyfriend's argument..somewhat of a sucking cock by proxy(if you will). Something that people held off on commenting on, since whenever people reply to your posts you take your ball and go home for a week.

As to me needing brahman..that almost made me laugh IRL. He just seems to attack me, so I defend myself. I don't think I've ever brought him up just for the sake of bringing him up.

I posted an opinion, to Aryse in this thread..and was attacked by brahman. The movie pic is kinda funny, heh. As far as the unhealthy fascination thing goes...if anyone else had said what I said in my first post, think they woulda been attacked? Maybe, but it wouldn't of been by him. I understand Aryse and Tryal's reply. Those make sense and were even expected. In true brahman style though...he'll attack someone anytime he feels he's bored irl, or just wants to reinforce how stupid he is(in case we all forget).

[Schaeffer]

Originally posted by Jebasiz@Jul 5 2006, 07:24 PM
somewhat of a sucking cock by proxy
HA HA HA HA HA AH AHA HA HA HA HAH AH AH


I lub dis tread

[Nadori]

Actually Jeb after that post im ashamed i ever called you a friend. I'm gonna resit the urge to say what i want to here. If you feel my post was a way to suck up to Aryse...i ask you why i've never atempted to suck up to her in the past. Aryse i believe is a nice person but i don't feel the need to suck up to either to her or Brahman. I think the plain fact that i was friends with you when brahman and you are enemies of sort shows that i don't judge people rashly.

If it will make your e-penis grow a little bigger to insult me in such a hurtful maner...well then at least one good thing came out of this tread. You profess morals but you sir have none and whats worse is you preach it but you don't follow it.

As far as my post to Aryse it was sincire and and i would like to believe that a majority of her so called friends would agree with me and see that she choose the best path possible.

Have a nice life sir...hopefully one day you will realise that you have lost a great friend over your petty bullshit.

[Jebasiz]

Originally posted by Nadori@Jul 5 2006, 09:08 PM

Have a nice life sir...hopefully one day you will realise that you have lost a great friend over your petty bullshit.
Heh..before you put all the blame on me. This argument started because your cocksucking boyfriend can't mind his own god damned business. I made a fairly innocent comment out of concern for a nice person's reputation. To which he decided to turn into a personal attack on me.

Then YOU supported him and at the same time insulted MY friend. If you can't see that, Fuck off. I really don't care. You and him, together or seperately can *try* and play innocent or victims or whatever the fuck you want, but you're not going to fool everyone...or in this case anyone.

Have a nice life and yes this is petty.

[Schaeffer]

http://dalliance.net/b3ta/CatFight.gif

[Brahman]

jeb go post smack talk about me somewhere on the board i don't read. you suck at doing it to my face.

I said sorry to her. I took a supportive possition towards her, and so you had to take the opposition. You can deny it, but i don't think anyone will buy it if they take even a moment to read the first 5 posts here.

EDIT::: btw good job at being done with me.

[najiwench]

is there an ignore function on this forum?

[Mallakith]

What was this thread about again? lol

[Brahman]

puppies and rainbows can't you tell?

[Xebitikz]

Originally posted by najiwench@Jul 6 2006, 01:31 AM
is there an ignore function on this forum?
There is actually a firefox plugin that will do it for you, I am just far to lazy to go look it up atm. Someone broke emoticons btw =(

Shaef <3<3<3<3

[Schaeffer]

Originally posted by Xebitikz@Jul 6 2006, 09:00 AM
Shaef <3<3<3<3
OMG, I think I have a not so secret admirer...


Smilies are broken at the moment, be patient, they will be fixed soon, yes yes we will soon fix you all! MUUUHUHUHUHAHAHAHAH!!!!


ok I'm better now.

[Jebasiz]

Originally posted by Brahman+Jul 6 2006, 12:18 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Brahman @ Jul 6 2006, 12:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> jeb go post smack talk about me somewhere on the board i don't read.
[/b]
OK, I will!

edit:<!--QuoteBegin-bra-man
doing it to my face.
[/quote]
Define "it" sir! Homo-erotic fantasy?

[Brahman]

Originally posted by Brahman@Jul 6 2006, 12:18 AM
btw good job at being done with me.
/golfclap

[Insalubrity]

If thats all you can refute within his post then you're kind of better off not posting. Just a thought

[Brahman]

Originally posted by Jebasiz+Jul 6 2006, 08:47 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Jebasiz @ Jul 6 2006, 08:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Brahman@Jul 6 2006, 12:18 AM
jeb go post smack talk about me somewhere on the board i don't read.

OK, I will!

edit:<!--QuoteBegin-bra-man
doing it to my face.

Define "it" sir! Homo-erotic fantasy? [/b][/quote]
exactly what in this post do you feel needs to be refuted?

its not worth the effort to reply to, oh noes he implied i'm gay ! what shall i do?!? never mind i'm obviously fine and dandy with my sexuality, calling me gay, or even ghey, wont cause me to want to fight at the flag pole after school.

btw jeb, when did you start directing? NSFW link (http://www.dvdera.com/dvds/7018/)

[Insalubrity]

I wasn't even talking about that post specifically, the majority of your posts in relfection to his have been how "hes not done with you and thats sad".

[Brahman]

naw.

i have a good number about puppies and rainbows too.

but i suppose you are complaining because i'm sticking to one point rather than calling him a cocksucker back? Kinda odd, "everyone" telling me i'm a douche for starting shit and not letting it drop and now you are posting cause i'm just kicking back laughing at jeb saying he is done with me then calling me 101 gay names.

[Insalubrity]

No i'm telling you you're an idiot for sticking with a weak argument. I don't need you to call him a cock sucker. It was bad timing of a post on my part, however, for the majority of the time Jeb has been making pretty solid ones back at you.

And you are a dousche for starting it. Sorry but you are. You're the one that openly lashed out at jeb first, you're actually the one that started the shitslinging so why you're so "See! He insulted me after being provoked!! I am the victim in this instance!!!!!!!" is beyond me.

Or you know, you could stop posting and not give him anything to feed on. Id probably call his hyprocricy if he brought you up or i know someone would, but maybe thats just me, i like people to ruin their own reputations. Its something I'm sure you know a lot about.

[Ckador]

One time Astaren (one of Triality's officers at the time) sent me a tell saying to make sure I was twitching because the only reason they recruit Necromancers is for that and FD & Res on wipes.

[najiwench]

Originally posted by Insalubrity@Jul 7 2006, 04:14 AM
No i'm telling you you're an idiot for sticking with a weak argument. I don't need you to call him a cock sucker. It was bad timing of a post on my part, however, for the majority of the time Jeb has been making pretty solid ones back at you.

And you are a dousche for starting it. Sorry but you are. You're the one that openly lashed out at jeb first, you're actually the one that started the shitslinging so why you're so "See! He insulted me after being provoked!! I am the victim in this instance!!!!!!!" is beyond me.

Or you know, you could stop posting and not give him anything to feed on. Id probably call his hyprocricy if he brought you up or i know someone would, but maybe thats just me, i like people to ruin their own reputations. Its something I'm sure you know a lot about.
um..have you noticed his custom title?

[Insalubrity]

Unfortunately.

[Schaeffer]

Originally posted by Ckador@Jul 7 2006, 12:34 AM
One time Astaren (one of Triality's officers at the time) sent me a tell saying to make sure I was twitching because the only reason they recruit Necromancers is for that and FD & Res on wipes.
This one time i went to Moscow and drank Whiskey instead of Vodka!

[Maeryn]

This one time, in band camp, I stuck a flute....

Yeah, never mind about that.

[Jebasiz]

Originally posted by Schaeffer+Jul 7 2006, 12:55 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Schaeffer @ Jul 7 2006, 12:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Ckador@Jul 7 2006, 12:34 AM
One time Astaren (one of Triality's officers at the time) sent me a tell saying to make sure I was twitching because the only reason they recruit Necromancers is for that and FD & Res on wipes.
This one time i went to Moscow and drank Whiskey instead of Vodka! [/b][/quote]
I drank vodka in dubrovnik. Ohh yes, yes I did.

[Schaeffer]

And I bet it was GOOOOooooooooooddd!

[Jebasiz]

ohhh it was! Dubrovnik = beautifull btw..if anyone is planning a vacation around there.

[Brahman]

Originally posted by Insalubrity@Jul 6 2006, 11:14 PM
No i'm telling you you're an idiot for sticking with a weak argument. I don't need you to call him a cock sucker. It was bad timing of a post on my part, however, for the majority of the time Jeb has been making pretty solid ones back at you.

And you are a dousche for starting it. Sorry but you are. You're the one that openly lashed out at jeb first, you're actually the one that started the shitslinging so why you're so "See! He insulted me after being provoked!! I am the victim in this instance!!!!!!!" is beyond me.

Or you know, you could stop posting and not give him anything to feed on. Id probably call his hyprocricy if he brought you up or i know someone would, but maybe thats just me, i like people to ruin their own reputations. Its something I'm sure you know a lot about.
ah yes.

i'm pretty sure i have made clear about 342394234 times my problems with jeb stem from in game shit. not board politics, so you can just chill on that. its been a long time since i beat the old everyone on this board jumps my shit for no reason drum. (mainly cause i have mostly quit posting on the rest of the board, because its true and i don't want to start shit all over the board)

I do find it amusing though, that you say you don't believe jeb is starting it, and then say i need to stop posting to get him to stop. I know its prolly not exactly what you ment, but its funny all the same cause thats how it came out.

btw, when i want to make a strong arguement, you will know it. there isn't much of an arguement going on here. Its kinda like saying i need a strong arguement for why a retard is a retard.

I'm pretty safe in just pointing and saying "hey look, he is retarded." I don't feel the need to point to the drool, slured speach, lack of motor control, ect. It's pretty damn obvious that jeb is a douche, fuck if you look real close at his pic you can even see the nozzle !

[Maeryn]

Originally posted by Brahman@Jul 7 2006, 01:50 PM
I'm pretty safe in just pointing and saying "hey look, he is retarded."
Newp, no provocation there...

[Schaeffer]

Originally posted by Brahman@Jul 7 2006, 01:50 PM
if you look real close at his pic you can even see the nozzle !
Dude, that's just fuckin nasty

[Brahman]

Originally posted by Maeryn+Jul 7 2006, 12:52 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Maeryn @ Jul 7 2006, 12:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Brahman@Jul 7 2006, 01:50 PM
I'm pretty safe in just pointing and saying "hey look, he is retarded."
Newp, no provocation there... [/b][/quote]
A. that was about the worst example you can give from my post as i'm not calling jeb a retard that was a comparison

B. show me where i said i didn't bait jeb

C. the bait being there, doesn't mean douche boy needs to take it

D. posting in this format is fun

E. i'm serious you can, i noticed when i had to blow up his pic to put it on that movie cover

F. I've dropped it before him many times before, sure its the high road but its less fun

G. I don't get credit for him saying "i'm done with you" replying, him replying one last time and then me stop posting

H. I'm not the telling people that this public msg board isn't any of my business

I. ok ok i'm really done now

J. by the above i meant with the letters, not the post

K. Ok i lied in I

L. i'm really done now

EDIT:: fixed H cause i goofed it all up

[Brahman]

PS. by bait, when it involves me...

that means posting in the first place.

[Maeryn]

I have never, in my entire life, met anyone who gets off so much on pointless arguing. Seriously, you're turned on right now aren't you?

[Nadori]

Only cause im talking dirty to him muahaha

[Brahman]

Originally posted by Maeryn@Jul 7 2006, 01:08 PM
I have never, in my entire life, met anyone who gets off so much on pointless arguing. Seriously, you're turned on right now aren't you?
nope.

pointless argueing by definition is what you do ANY time you argue on the internet.

Although since you think all this is pointless perhaps you get off on reading pointless arguements? God knows jeb must get off on it, its like a habit he can't break. says he is done and keeps coming back for more like 5+ times !!!!

best part is folks jumping in saying i'm putting up a weak arguement. lmao

and shush nadori... you are gonna make a mod throw up again. The very thought of my attracting someone sickens them you know.

[Jebasiz]

Dubrovnik is nice in the summer, lets go maeryn =).

[Maeryn]

Originally posted by Jebasiz@Jul 7 2006, 02:13 PM
Dubrovnik is nice in the summer, lets go maeryn =).
Okies =)

[Nadori]

You know Dubrovnik is in ym home country... I'll call my connections and have you trown in jail muahaha

Kidding

[Brahman]

Originally posted by Jebasiz@Jul 7 2006, 01:13 PM
Dubrovnik is nice in the summer, lets go maeryn =).
lmao

its funny.

you can't bare not to post.

so you have to try and post drivel that attempts to make you look good.

just be a man, and stick to your statement.

i'm sure ur testicles are not shriveled THAT much from the juice?

[Ckador]

Why'd you guys have to go and shit up a perfectly good Triality rant!?

[Nadori]

Sorry CK


Come on put it back on track!

Rant pal!

[Brahman]

trialty isn't good enough to lick the sweat from my left nut.

[Jebasiz]

Originally posted by Nadori@Jul 7 2006, 01:14 PM
You know Dubrovnik is in ym home country... I'll call my connections and have you trown in jail muahaha

Kidding
IF Dubrovnik is your home CITY, Croatia would be your country of origin. That's like going to visit the "great state of Pheonix"

[Nadori]

Once again . I was born in Yugoslavia...which consist of Bosnia Serbia and Croatia. When i left there it was still Yugoslavia.

Its when i was in Austria that they split the 3. To me all 3 are home. I have familly and friends in all 3 and i have actually been to Dubrovnik

So im not sure how thats anything like Phoenix being a state..... i guess i just dont understand your anology


AND if you actually look at the statement i said "Dubrovnik is IN MY HOME COUNRTY" I did not say "Dubrovnik IS my home country"

maybe thats where you are confused

[Brahman]

trialty doesn't have as much talent as my jiz rag !!!!

and really jeb, trying to tell my g/f that she doesn't know her own country is kinda low. starting a fight with her cause you can't get to me? very shameful

[Jebasiz]

I missed the "in my"..cuz of the typo. oops. Brahman if I wanted to get to you, rest assured pal..I could.

[Nadori]

Its cool


You should know that i know that country like the back of my hand

[Brahman]

Originally posted by Jebasiz@Jul 7 2006, 01:41 PM
I missed the "in my"..cuz of the typo. oops. Brahman if I wanted to get to you, rest assured pal..I could.
oh yeah.

you have done so well at it all those other times you tried.

/golfclap

trialty is so low that even jeb has to look down to see them.

[Jebasiz]

I didn't see much more then Dubrovnik. Mostly a blurry/fuzzy Dubrovnik(damn that vodka was good, although didn't help the ole card game skeelz). It's a beautifull city. Castles and parks. It kinda/vaguely resembles some of the coastal English castles and stuff there.

[Schaeffer]

Originally posted by Brahman@Jul 7 2006, 02:12 PM
and shush nadori... you are gonna make a mod throw up again. The very thought of my attracting someone sickens them you know.
I'm typing this between vomitting spells right now...

[Brahman]

Originally posted by Schaeffer+Jul 7 2006, 01:49 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Schaeffer @ Jul 7 2006, 01:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Brahman@Jul 7 2006, 02:12 PM
and shush nadori... you are gonna make a mod throw up again. The very thought of my attracting someone sickens them you know.
I'm typing this between vomitting spells right now... [/b][/quote]
shush you.

you know you lub me !

[Nadori]

HAHA Schaeff

[Schaeffer]

Originally posted by Brahman@Jul 7 2006, 02:51 PM
shush you.

you know you lub me !
Shhh, I told you never to call me here...

[Brahman]

Trialty isn't good enough to smear the honey onto jeb's nuts so that the ants bite them !

[Schaeffer]

Triality's so bad that... they... um... suck?

Yeah I was never good at the "Yo mama's so fat..." jokes :(

[GnekroeGnomicon]

/sigh, through all these threads the only thing that pisses me off is that Nadori (read: anyone) would date Brahman :P

Vodka anywhere is good, especially if being force fed by a beautiful russian woman. Ahhh... good times...

I was born in a town named after the Yugoslav capital... makes me almost feel Eastern European :ph34r:

// I think without emoticons right now, everyone is taking everyone else far too seriously.

[Schaeffer]

Originally posted by GnekroeGnomicon@Jul 7 2006, 03:21 PM
// I think without emoticons right now, everyone is taking everyone else far too seriously.
Hence the disclaimer

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[Jebasiz]

Originally posted by GnekroeGnomicon@Jul 7 2006, 02:21 PM
/sigh, through all these threads the only thing that pisses me off is that Nadori (read: anyone) would date Brahman :P

Vodka anywhere is good, especially if being force fed by a beautiful russian woman. Ahhh... good times...

I was born in a town named after the Yugoslav capital... makes me almost feel Eastern European :ph34r:

// I think without emoticons right now, everyone is taking everyone else far too seriously.
lol @ "force" in force fed. Ohh no..not more delicious and smooth vodka! No! Get it AWAY!

The only way to screw up russia vodka is to not drink it straight.

[najiwench]

Originally posted by Brahman@Jul 7 2006, 06:02 PM
C. the bait being there, doesn't mean douche boy needs to take it
/snicker

that made me lol irl...the irony and all

[Brahman]

Originally posted by najiwench+Jul 7 2006, 06:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (najiwench @ Jul 7 2006, 06:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Brahman@Jul 7 2006, 06:02 PM
C. the bait being there, doesn't mean douche boy needs to take it
/snicker

that made me lol irl...the irony and all [/b][/quote]
glad to make a fellow nec laugh :)

[Arkaron]

Say good-bye, if you can't wish them luck..just leave it at that. Bashing/flaming/critiquing on a public board isn't the best way to go about doing things.

I didn't bother reading the rest of the thread beyond this remark, but Triality has earned a reputation so bad over its treatment of Necromancers that I don't think anybody would blame Aryse or lengthen her recruitment over what's basically the truth. The guild is a shithole and every Necromancer who has left knows it.

[Jebasiz]

Originally posted by Arkaron+Jul 8 2006, 12:47 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Arkaron @ Jul 8 2006, 12:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Say good-bye, if you can't wish them luck..just leave it at that. Bashing/flaming/critiquing on a public board isn't the best way to go about doing things.

I didn't bother reading the rest of the thread beyond this remark, but Triality has earned a reputation so bad over its treatment of Necromancers that I don't think anybody would blame Aryse or lengthen her recruitment over what's basically the truth. The guild is a shithole and every Necromancer who has left knows it. [/b]
That might very well be true. I can't dispute it, not being in that position. There's also maybe 10-15 people serverwide that could probably back that up, with first hand experience...which isn't all that many. Consider that it might not of been "that bad" until a year or two ago, and it's less then 10, and maybe 5?

Guilds that care about their reputation are usually very protective of it. They won't share their tag and their reputation with someone that has bashed guilds after leaving them in the past. It calls into question their character. Now if she left Triality and said nothing, or even found positive things to say (even if it was just one)...she'd of taken a bad situation and made herself look like much the better party, and Triality would of looked even worse if she went about it the right way.

IF she had <!--QuoteBegin-Aryse@ but not really
I left Triality after being unhappy there a long time. I didn't like how they marginalized our contribution and the role I continually found myself in. The environment there, wasn't quite as supportive as I'd of liked either..I'm sure I'll find more happiness elsewhere. I wish them the best of luck.[/quote]

If I saw that and was looking for a high end raid guild..it'd get me to [tell maelin.aryse wtf did they have you do?

Without calling them a shithole guild..if indeed her message was to worn necros..I think that would of accomplished that, without outright calling them names and putting them down in the same manner that she has done.

[Aryse Andenter]

Originally posted by Jebasiz+Jul 8 2006, 11:10 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Jebasiz @ Jul 8 2006, 11:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

IF she had <!--QuoteBegin-Aryse@ but not really
I left Triality after being unhappy there a long time.* I didn't like how they marginalized our contribution and the role I continually found myself in.* The environment there, wasn't quite as supportive as I'd of liked either..I'm sure I'll find more happiness elsewhere.* I wish them the best of luck.

If I saw that and was looking for a high end raid guild..it'd get me to [tell maelin.aryse wtf did they have you do?

Without calling them a shithole guild..if indeed her message was to worn necros..I think that would of accomplished that, without outright calling them names and putting them down in the same manner that she has done. [/b][/quote]
Jeb hun... you underestimate Triality. My post IS actually that nice based on the scale they are on. I think you may have missed entirely how much I did tone it down, but then, the people from Maelin seem to have caught that which is what matters.

[Jebasiz]

OoooHH she called me hun /lubbins =).

I just hate to see nice people represent themselves in a way that could hurt them down the road. That really was the motivation of the original, and any pointed post I've made here. I wish you luck.

I'm sure Xislaben will offer you room and board. =). If there's noams offering food..atleast you always get that "second option" if the main course sucks. There's value in that. Enjoy.

[Aryse Andenter]

Haha, Tryal got accused of being ebay yesterday since 'nobody with his gear could possibly be in Sequel unless they were ebay or server transfer'. Poor Xislaben. :P

[Jebasiz]

The funny thing about that is..Xislaben has more hps and mana then Tryal. He's like the Rodney Dangerfield of Maelin. Where's the respect?!?!?!?

[Brahman]

That might very well be true. I can't dispute it, not being in that position. There's also maybe 10-15 people serverwide that could probably back that up, with first hand experience...which isn't all that many. Consider that it might not of been "that bad" until a year or two ago, and it's less then 10, and maybe 5?

I assure you, they have been like that for a long time, and there are far more necro's than that which will back it up.

there is a reason they were posting "this DoD rotted, we need some necros, app pls" when OoW was first released.

Ask ck about it sometime... the stories... omfg its horrible, just hearing about that guild is like http://www.darkova.net/phpBB2/images/smiles/eusa_wall.gif and makes me want to http://www.darkova.net/phpBB2/images/smiles/100.gif people from getting into that situation. all the guild is about is http://www.darkova.net/phpBB2/images/smiles/014.gif and not the http://www.darkova.net/phpBB2/images/smiles/057.gif kind that you and i have.

truely that guild makes me http://www.darkova.net/phpBB2/images/smiles/022.gif far worse than raiding with levi did. and you know full well how badly i lost it that night. You could be http://www.darkova.net/phpBB2/images/smiles/078.gifing all over and they would still be http://www.darkova.net/phpBB2/images/smiles/079.gif TWITCH YOU WHORE!!!!

[Brahman]

all that said, the amount of toning down that was done in that "rant" is http://www.darkova.net/phpBB2/images/smiles/051.gif when they deserved http://www.darkova.net/phpBB2/images/smiles/066.gifhttp://www.darkova.net/phpBB2/images/smiles/067.gifhttp://www.darkova.net/phpBB2/images/smiles/068.gifhttp://www.darkova.net/phpBB2/images/smiles/070.gifhttp://www.darkova.net/phpBB2/images/smiles/071.gifhttp://www.darkova.net/phpBB2/images/smiles/072.gifhttp://www.darkova.net/phpBB2/images/smiles/075.gif

all that said, i'm done http://www.darkova.net/phpBB2/images/smiles/069.gif

(gd max img # per post wtf is that? http://www.darkova.net/phpBB2/images/smiles/icon_sad.gif)

[Aegrusnecrox]

Holy fucking emoticons batman!

Honestly this post has outlived it's usefullness. Aryse said what she wanted to say, and I sure don't blame her for saying it. Triality sucks nuts, that's all there is to it. No amount of flaming could ever even come close to what they deserve.

No more discussion here, we've all vented, lets call it quits.

-Egg

[najiwench]

*walks through pushing a broom*

[Tryal Anderror]

Originally posted by Jebasiz@Jul 8 2006, 02:39 PM
The funny thing about that is..Xislaben has more hps and mana then Tryal. He's like the Rodney Dangerfield of Maelin. Where's the respect?!?!?!?
It's within several hundred, but i'm higher than Xislaben still, where'd you get that idea? Until a couple days ago it was by about 1000hp, now like 500 or something.
But I think the person who said it was also referring to me having the 60% focus for stuff

[Xislaben]

I knew I'd get sucked into this thread at some point...

Originally posted by Jebasiz+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Jebasiz)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>I'm sure Xislaben will offer you room and board. =)[/b]

0.o Shhhh! Don't tell Tryal!

Originally posted by Pinky+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Pinky)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Haha, Tryal got accused of being ebay yesterday since 'nobody with his gear could possibly be in Sequel unless they were ebay or server transfer'. Poor Xislaben. :P[/b]

Clearly somebody just doesn't understand the appeal of the cool cat laid back raiding guild that is Sequel.

<!--QuoteBegin-Jebasiz@
The funny thing about that is..Xislaben has more hps and mana then Tryal. He's like the Rodney Dangerfield of Maelin. Where's the respect?!?!?!?[/quote]

T's still in the lead for now, he hasn't updated rankings in a bit.

<!--QuoteBegin-Tryal
It's within several hundred, but i'm higher than Xislaben still, where'd you get that idea? Until a couple days ago it was by about 1000hp, now like 500 or something.
But I think the person who said it was also referring to me having the 60% focus for stuff[/quote]

I think I'm 3rd necro for worn hp in guild actually, by maybe 200hp to 400hp or so. 2nd for foci, as Tryal has a bunch of 60% stuff and we're not in demiplane yet. I'm still missing 2 coa augs and there's a few pieces of gear I've not upgraded yet while I build up that DKP. For instance I still have an mpg group trial item on my back. Most of the upgrades I could get now are less than 50hp ones, so I'd be paying a bit for small improvements. I'm not gonna spend a great deal of dkp for so-so upgrades just for hp.

I've pretty much built my character for damage and survivability. What I really want are better damage foci. 60% fire magic and poison will do for starters :)

[Tryal Anderror]

Originally posted by Xislaben+Jul 10 2006, 02:46 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Xislaben @ Jul 10 2006, 02:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I knew I'd get sucked into this thread at some point...

Originally posted by Jebasiz+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Jebasiz)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>I'm sure Xislaben will offer you room and board. =)[/b]

0.o Shhhh! Don't tell Tryal!

Originally posted by Pinky
Haha, Tryal got accused of being ebay yesterday since 'nobody with his gear could possibly be in Sequel unless they were ebay or server transfer'. Poor Xislaben. :P

Clearly somebody just doesn't understand the appeal of the cool cat laid back raiding guild that is Sequel.

<!--QuoteBegin-Jebasiz@
The funny thing about that is..Xislaben has more hps and mana then Tryal. He's like the Rodney Dangerfield of Maelin. Where's the respect?!?!?!?

T's still in the lead for now, he hasn't updated rankings in a bit.

<!--QuoteBegin-Tryal
It's within several hundred, but i'm higher than Xislaben still, where'd you get that idea? Until a couple days ago it was by about 1000hp, now like 500 or something.
But I think the person who said it was also referring to me having the 60% focus for stuff[/quote]

I think I'm 3rd necro for worn hp in guild actually, by maybe 200hp to 400hp or so. 2nd for foci, as Tryal has a bunch of 60% stuff and we're not in demiplane yet. I'm still missing 2 coa augs and there's a few pieces of gear I've not upgraded yet while I build up that DKP. For instance I still have an mpg group trial item on my back. Most of the upgrades I could get now are less than 50hp ones, so I'd be paying a bit for small improvements. I'm not gonna spend a great deal of dkp for so-so upgrades just for hp.

I've pretty much built my character for damage and survivability. What I really want are better damage foci. 60% fire magic and poison will do for starters :) [/b][/quote]
I like Sequel, it's an excellent pace for me, I'm more of a 50% raider nowadays, and despite my gear actually I could still benefit from old Augs, and certain items particularily clickies that I missed under Triality's loot system.

[Jebasiz]

blah, update please. Eqrankings had xis(14 on maelin) above you(15)!

[Mallakith]

Best thing ever to come out of croatia was Igor Stimac!


IIIIIIIIGOOOOOORRR

http://www.derby.org/gaz/ramsnet/gallery/DCFC/Players/Igor_Stimac_1999.jpg

IIIIIIIGGOOOOOR

[Meph]

Originally posted by Nadori+Jul 7 2006, 07:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Nadori @ Jul 7 2006, 07:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Once again . I was born in Yugoslavia...which consist of Bosnia Serbia and Croatia. When i left there it was still Yugoslavia.

Its when i was in Austria that they split the 3. To me all 3 are home. I have familly and friends in all 3 and i have actually been to Dubrovnik[/b]
<!--QuoteBegin-Nadori@Jul 7 2006, 07:42 PM
Its cool


You should know that i know that country like the back of my hand[/quote]

Obviously you don't. Yugoslavia consisted out of 6 republics (Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia, Macedonia, Montenegro) and split into 5 countrys 6 now with Montenegro splitting off Serbia finally.

As for Triality Dalnoth's posts on Eqlive tell me enough about him and and i would rather quite EQ then be guilded with him in officer position even if it was a last high end guild in EQ.

[Tryal Anderror]

Originally posted by Jebasiz@Jul 10 2006, 04:19 AM
blah, update please. Eqrankings had xis(14 on maelin) above you(15)!
I havn't updated that since like 2005. Updated now though to please you

[Xelgadis]

Not everyone has a massive epenix complex, which requires minute to minute updates of their magelo profile (and subsequent updating eqrankings' database). Nor does everyone worry/whine so much about gear, be it theirs or someone elses, or what people decide to get for upgrades, when other people spend dkp, etc.

Seeing how easy it is to fudge numbers in magelo, I take it with a grain of salt, same with eqrankings as even I'm too lazy to force a profile update there sometimes. Honestly, I could give a fuck less about eqrankings (I do like magelo for when I'm too lazy to add up my own mods, etc.) in light of this. If people want to worry about eqrankings, that's their prerogative, I play this game to have fun, not worry about measuring my penis up against everyone else's (figuratively :P) or how someone else's penis measures up against someone else.

[Jebasiz]

Heh, not sure who that was directed at. After Aryse's statement I got curious(and I just happened to be bored at work) enough to bring up Maelin's rankings. I thought it was a comical statement, seeing as it listed Xislaben above Tryal..but Tryal was geared to well to be in Xislaben's guild.

I didn't look at his magelo..obviously or I wouldn't of made the statement I did.

Knowing where you stand dkp-wise, can help you make better loot decisions, or atleast sway you to get one item over another if it means picking up a focus or preservation earlier then what you originally mapped out for yourself, especially if the original item with a particular focus seems a long way off. Balancing focii, resists and pertinent mods is a difficult thing to accomplish..putting thought into it only seems natural.

As far as what other people have, who really gives a fuck?

[Xislaben]

Originally posted by Jebasiz@Jul 11 2006, 02:15 PM
Knowing where you stand dkp-wise, can help you make better loot decisions, or atleast sway you to get one item over another if it means picking up a focus or preservation earlier then what you originally mapped out for yourself, especially if the original item with a particular focus seems a long way off. Balancing focii, resists and pertinent mods is a difficult thing to accomplish..putting thought into it only seems natural.
Pray tell leezard.

[Nadori]

Originally posted by Meph+Jul 10 2006, 03:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Meph @ Jul 10 2006, 03:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Nadori@Jul 7 2006, 07:32 PM
Once again . I was born in Yugoslavia...which consist of Bosnia Serbia and Croatia. When i left there it was still Yugoslavia.

Its when i was in Austria that they split the 3. To me all 3 are home. I have familly and friends in all 3 and i have actually been to Dubrovnik
<!--QuoteBegin-Nadori@Jul 7 2006, 07:42 PM
Its cool


You should know that i know that country like the back of my hand

Obviously you don't. Yugoslavia consisted out of 6 republics (Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia, Macedonia, Montenegro) and split into 5 countrys 6 now with Montenegro splitting off Serbia finally.

As for Triality Dalnoth's posts on Eqlive tell me enough about him and and i would rather quite EQ then be guilded with him in officer position even if it was a last high end guild in EQ. [/b][/quote]
For your information.. I wasn't listing all of them .. i was saying those 3 are still home to me because i have familly in all three. Regardles no one really mentions the other ones because majority of Yugoslavia is made up of Bosnia Croatia and Serbia as you'll see in the map. There is also other reasons one of which is that for years Montenegro was tought of as part of Serbia even tho on the map you can see diff. And yes i do know the counrty i was born and raised in so you can just STFU

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d184/Nadori/former_yugoslavia_2.jpg

[Warspite]

Woot! Hot Corn! My favorite snow skis are made in Slovenia! I lubs them!

[GnekroeGnomicon]

I would love to visit Sarajevo someday...

[Nadori]

Originally posted by Nadori@Jul 7 2006, 10:32 AM
Once again . I was born in Yugoslavia...which consist of Bosnia Serbia and Croatia. When i left there it was still Yugoslavia.

Its when i was in Austria that they split the 3. To me all 3 are home. I have familly and friends in all 3 and i have actually been to Dubrovnik

So im not sure how thats anything like Phoenix being a state..... i guess i just dont understand your anology


AND if you actually look at the statement i said "Dubrovnik is IN MY HOME COUNRTY" I did not say "Dubrovnik IS my home country"

maybe thats where you are confused
I'll adjust my statement to be more politically correct.


Once again . I was born in Yugoslavia...which consist of Bosnia Serbia and Croatia (and some other minor sections that belong to Croatia and Serbia that no one really looks at like they are seperate). When i left there it was still Yugoslavia.

You can come back and give me any kind of proof that they are not but this is how the Yugoslavian nation has tought of it for years. Being one of them i have tought of it as the same. SO when in pasing you make a statement like "was born in Yugoslavia...which consist of Bosnia Serbia and Croatia. When i left there it was still Yugoslavia." not one person that lived in Yugoslavia would see this as wrong or even give it a second tought.

[Jebasiz]

Originally posted by GnekroeGnomicon@Jul 11 2006, 01:54 PM
I would love to visit Sarajevo someday...
Trans-siberian Orchestra has a song called Sarajevo. That and christmas day are meh favorites from them.

All I ever saw in Sarajevo was prisoners and sick people and some http://www.darkova.net/phpBB2/images/smiles/070.gif. I don't wanna go back for anything.

[GnekroeGnomicon]

All I ever saw in Sarajevo was prisoners and sick people and some . I don't wanna go back for anything. Unforutnately, during a time of war that is a pretty common thing which is sad - but I am sure it is getting better... in 10-20 years it might be a very safe and appealing place.

I visited Haiti about 10 years ago when all there was mass starvation, disease, lawlessness (yay Aristid!) and the only thing that gave security was the roaming units of US Marines (think there were less than 400 marines there, in a city of 7 million) - Port au Prince is an amazing city to walk through. It will be a phenomenal place to visit if there is ever stability and security brought to the region.

Same can be said for the Middle East.

[Jebasiz]

The middle east isn't all bad, destitute or lying in ruins now. Infact, abdu dabi, bahrain, dubai..are all thriving cities with strong economies and such. Very little disease or anything of the kind. Great golf courses too!

[Nadori]

Originally posted by Jebasiz+Jul 11 2006, 11:13 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Jebasiz @ Jul 11 2006, 11:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-GnekroeGnomicon@Jul 11 2006, 01:54 PM
I would love to visit Sarajevo someday...
Trans-siberian Orchestra has a song called Sarajevo. That and christmas day are meh favorites from them.

All I ever saw in Sarajevo was prisoners and sick people and some http://www.darkova.net/phpBB2/images/smiles/070.gif. I don't wanna go back for anything. [/b][/quote]
It's pretty safe right now. My familly goes back about every six months (i personally havent been back yet) But they say everything is safe...the only thing is there is a lot of povery and still a lot of rebuilding to be done. My brother is actually building a house back there for us when we go back and visit. Thats gonna be awesome :)

[Ckador]

Last I checked, this isn't Social Studies class, elf-fuckers!


Commence with the Triality hate!

[Meph]

Originally posted by Nadori@Jul 7 2006, 10:32 AM
Once again . I was born in Yugoslavia...which consist of Bosnia Serbia and Croatia (and some other minor sections that belong to Croatia and Serbia that no one really looks at like they are seperate). When i left there it was still Yugoslavia.

You can come back and give me any kind of proof that they are not but this is how the Yugoslavian nation has tought of it for years. Being one of them i have tought of it as the same. SO when in pasing you make a statement like "was born in Yugoslavia...which consist of Bosnia Serbia and Croatia. When i left there it was still Yugoslavia." not one person that lived in Yugoslavia would see this as wrong or even give it a second tought.

So you call Slovenia, Macedonia and Montenegro, that's 50% of ex Yugoslavian republics that each had same voting etc rights in Yugoslav parliament as "some other minor sections that belong to Croatia and Serbia that no one really looks at like they are seperate" ? That's pure nationalistic bullshit Milosevic & Tuđman preached at the start of the war 1991.

Coming from Slovenia myself and living in Yugoslavia once i see that as an insult even more as it's a statement coming from someone originating from that region.

I don't doubt you know the region just be politically/geographically correct when you talk about it.

/peace

[Meph]

Originally posted by GnekroeGnomicon@Jul 11 2006, 08:36 PM
... in 10-20 years it might be a very safe and appealing place.

War in Sarajevo ended like more than 10 years ago too. I can assure you it's a safe and appealing place. ;)

[najiwench]

Originally posted by Jebasiz@Jul 11 2006, 07:51 PM
The middle east isn't all bad, destitute or lying in ruins now. Infact, abdu dabi, bahrain, dubai..are all thriving cities with strong economies and such. Very little disease or anything of the kind. Great golf courses too!
hubby says dubai was a really nice place to visit...besides being the temperature of the sun and stuff....other than that was pretty neat

[Nadori]

Actually yes you have doubted that i know the region. And just so you know i have lived in Slovenia right after the was for about a year and a half...What it seems like to me is you have lived in the whole region for a very short period of time. I'm glad you took insult in that because i took insult in you basically stating im full of shit. I wasn't giving anyone geography lessions i was making a completly diff point to Jeb.

Dude i have been fucking raised there and went to school there and the most important of all what they don't teach you in school is the way people precieve stuff. And im sorry but thats how most people look at it.

You are the one that attacked me and honestly i have no clue why you have the need to correct me but


good luck to ya

[Ckador]

Listen you Rand-McNally assholes, enough of the Weekly Reader bullshit and on with teh h8z.

Go nerd up your own threads, Amerigo Vespucci mawfukkas.

[Schaeffer]

Why don't you just start a rant about how people can't stay on topic in the rants thread???

[Aryse Andenter]

Originally posted by Jebasiz@Jul 11 2006, 02:15 PM

Knowing where you stand dkp-wise, can help you make better loot decisions, or atleast sway you to get one item over another if it means picking up a focus or preservation earlier then what you originally mapped out for yourself, especially if the original item with a particular focus seems a long way off. Balancing focii, resists and pertinent mods is a difficult thing to accomplish..putting thought into it only seems natural.


Did I mention that Triality has a 'merit' based random award (or more like a black box system - numbers go in, loot comes out, and yet they aren't related) loot system?



PS... getting it back on topic, see? :P)

[Xislaben]

Originally posted by Aryse Andenter+Jul 12 2006, 02:54 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Aryse Andenter @ Jul 12 2006, 02:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Jebasiz@Jul 11 2006, 02:15 PM

Knowing where you stand dkp-wise, can help you make better loot decisions, or atleast sway you to get one item over another if it means picking up a focus or preservation earlier then what you originally mapped out for yourself, especially if the original item with a particular focus seems a long way off. Balancing focii, resists and pertinent mods is a difficult thing to accomplish..putting thought into it only seems natural.


Did I mention that Triality has a 'merit' based random award (or more like a black box system - numbers go in, loot comes out, and yet they aren't related) loot system?



PS... getting it back on topic, see? :P) [/b][/quote]
Oh, I assumed he meant that for me and not T and then ignored/missed my reply :(

[Meph]

Originally posted by Ckador@Jul 12 2006, 12:08 AM
Listen you Rand-McNally assholes, enough of the Weekly Reader bullshit and on with teh h8z.

Go nerd up your own threads, Amerigo Vespucci mawfukkas.
H8, h8, h8

Down with Triality!

That better :P ?

[Mallakith]

If you cant derail a rant where can you derail...

LMAO

[najiwench]

monkey (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_s_r4-DlkE&search=monkey%20poo/)

[Brahman]

chimp

[najiwench]

Originally posted by Brahman@Jul 13 2006, 03:42 AM
chimp
hmm...yep..you're right

not a monkey

[Brahman]

we really shouldn't be so mean to jeb http://www.darkova.net/phpBB2/images/smiles/icon_madu.gif

[xorez]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Ckador]

Originally posted by xorez@Jul 16 2006, 06:09 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
EXCELLENT POST MY GOOD MAN! Insightful, well-written,with excellent counter points that are just hard to argue with.

I give it a 9.5/10!

Did you register with this site just to post that?

[xorez]

nah i registered a couple months ago, but i find it funny and stupid that she hated triality that bad and yet stayed for them for that long, especially since nothing forced her to stay

[Aegrusnecrox]

And I find it funny that you registered for an online forum with the sole purpose of laughing at a rant and berating the message board members.

Maby try contributing something usefull to the community before you start being a retard, hmm?

-Egg

[Jebasiz]

Originally posted by xorez@Jul 16 2006, 01:09 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I don't get the humor...

[Aryse Andenter]

Nah, can't have registered just for that... this is the Inferno, and he does have a 1 post count.

[Jebasiz]

http://www.necrotalk.com/index.php?act=Sea...opics&highlite= (http://www.necrotalk.com/index.php?act=Search&CODE=show&searchid=a3ce53a742ead1ede39e2ab6993518a5&search_in=posts&result_type=topics&highlite=)

actually his only post(s) are here in the inferno..maybe he hax and made them count!

[Creationis Crucifixion]

REPORTED!

[Xebitikz]

Originally posted by Creationis Crucifixion@Jul 20 2006, 06:14 AM
REPORTED!
haha thats who the fuck u r

im on to u btich

[Xislaben]

Dalnoth wanting to nerf Zerkers now?

linky to vet board where "notice the undergeared berserker beating 6 heavily geared rogues." (http://eqforums.station.sony.com/eq/board/message?board.id=Veterans&message.id=254727&page=10)

[Jebasiz]

Haha, Dalnoth got pwned in the face. Gogo zerkers!

[Aldmare]

As for your necro increasing 10-15pct dps. A low end rogue has 300 dps, a high end rogue has 1k dps. A low end necro has 500 dps a high end necro has 1200 dps. Let's try not to use necro's as examples in the future.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v55/KineticRcR/misc%20junk/stickpoke.gif

[Jebasiz]

Originally posted by Aldmare@Jul 24 2006, 10:51 AM
As for your necro increasing 10-15pct dps. A low end rogue has 300 dps, a high end rogue has 1200-1500 dps. A low end necro has 500 dps a high end necro has the potential to theoritically have 1200 dps, on fights over 4 mins, with a bard in group. Let's try not to use necro's in perfect world situations as examples in the future.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v55/KineticRcR/misc%20junk/stickpoke.gif
fixed teh quote, where's it from?

[Aldmare]

by Requeim page 7 for me

[Brahman]

just for my personal curiosity...

jeb you think you can parse on an ideal mob a few times and then do it again removing your raid level foci?

assuming your guild is at a point where you are doing mobs that are trivial enough to allow such playign of course.

[Jebasiz]

I have several parses of redfang and such, but never without focii. I'd PM info(a break down or just what I parsed and spells used) to people (if requested) but I'm not posting shit for everyone to see.

[Brahman]

do you think you could do one without that foci?

I know the math, and understand how it should work in theory but i am interested in seeing the real world effect of that.

[Xislaben]

Originally posted by Brahman@Jul 24 2006, 08:37 PM
do you think you could do one without that foci?

I know the math, and understand how it should work in theory but i am interested in seeing the real world effect of that.
The only difference you would see (besides a much shorter duration due to lack of gear) is lower numbers from both a lack of foci and possibly mistiming stacking.

What are you really trying to get at here?

You could avoid raid level mobs all together, grab kata bankers maybe or that inactive clockwork thingy in steamfont that just runs away very very slowly when agroed.

[Jebasiz]

The problem with removing foci on a mob like redfang is..potential for someone to fuck up grows exponentially as the fight goes on. It' good (really good) to put him down on the 2nd pop. A 3rd(and I've seen 4) pop, and resulting "other mechanisms" of that popping/depopping sequencing just adds greatly to your ability/likelyness to fuck it all up and have to start all over, which tends to piss me off very greatly.

I wouldn't be opposed to parsing katta bankers with and then without focii. I just need a day off, so I have time to do so.

[Maeryn]

Originally posted by Jebasiz@Jul 25 2006, 10:07 AM
I wouldn't be opposed to parsing katta bankers with and then without focii. I just need a day off, so I have time to do so.
I think that was nerfed with one of the recent patches.

[Xislaben]

Originally posted by Maeryn+Jul 25 2006, 02:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Maeryn @ Jul 25 2006, 02:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Jebasiz@Jul 25 2006, 10:07 AM
I wouldn't be opposed to parsing katta bankers with and then without focii. I just need a day off, so I have time to do so.
I think that was nerfed with one of the recent patches. [/b][/quote]
Oh yeah :(

I read something about SOE stopping people from being able to kill merchants to restock them and such...

Not that Katta bankers were ever killable, but SOE may have just flagged those NPC's in a general sweep as immune to melee/spells...

[Schaeffer]

Originally posted by Xislaben@Jul 25 2006, 10:44 AM
I read something about SOE stopping people from being able to kill merchants to restock them and such...
That doesn't make any sense, vendors have a list of items they sell that are infinite. All other items in thier cue were sold by players, and killing tehm would clear that cue... wouldn't it?

[Jebasiz]

More stupidity. There's probably a reason for this, and it's probably a limited number item that spawns on a vendor after a quest is done. It's also probably for a combine or subcombine leading to an AAAA being created. It might even be a system of control to limit how many AAAA's are introduced per server/unit time to make sure they aren't devalued to quickly etc etc etc. To change all vendors for something like this (if indeed it does exist) is pretty god-damned annoying.

Isn't it time for someone to post how bad of an environment Triality is, or another pic of how fat irl Dalnoth is?

[Schaeffer]

Dalnoth's so fat, when Moses needed to part the Red Sea he told Dalnoth to jump in and do a belly flop!

[Jebasiz]

LMAO..Schaeffer is gonna start a Dalnoth joke thread with shit like that. It'll be the new "momma" joke-type-thing.

[Brahman]

that green clockwork in steamfont NE area is still doable i think.

but thats just not the same due to resists and the like.

a parse on a mob that everything will land on versus a real raid mob is not very comparable at all.

[Jebasiz]

Everything lands on redfang, atleast consistently enough.

[Brahman]

hehe i think we can agree that "consistantly enough" can swing our dps alot for the worse.

[Schaeffer]

Dalnoth's so fat, his picture posted at the door at every Red Lobster so they can pretend to be closed if they see him coming during the "all you can eat" jumbo shrimp special.

[Jebasiz]

Did he "jump and get stuck?"

[Xislaben]

I hear on test there's a way to pop npc's in an arena that can optionalyl be set to not respond to agro.

I have no idea of the veracity of that, if it's player controllable, or what, but test is a dark dreary place eh :P

[Aryse Andenter]

Originally posted by Schaeffer+Jul 25 2006, 03:06 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Schaeffer @ Jul 25 2006, 03:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Xislaben@Jul 25 2006, 10:44 AM
I read something about SOE stopping people from being able to kill merchants to restock them and such...
That doesn't make any sense, vendors have a list of items they sell that are infinite. All other items in thier cue were sold by players, and killing tehm would clear that cue... wouldn't it? [/b][/quote]
There are a number of items that vendors, or some vendors, have in limitied stoclk.

Of course, the primary reason for killing vendors was not to restock them but to empty their bought items to re-start for vendor farmers.

[Potus]

HELLO ARYSE, WHERE ARE MY NUDE PICS

[Aryse Andenter]

Originally posted by Potus@Jul 26 2006, 06:59 AM
HELLO ARYSE, WHERE ARE MY NUDE PICS
Right here in my lap, come get em ;)

[Schaeffer]

Originally posted by Aryse Andenter+Jul 25 2006, 06:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Aryse Andenter @ Jul 25 2006, 06:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Schaeffer@Jul 25 2006, 03:06 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Xislaben@Jul 25 2006, 10:44 AM
I read something about SOE stopping people from being able to kill merchants to restock them and such...
That doesn't make any sense, vendors have a list of items they sell that are infinite. All other items in thier cue were sold by players, and killing tehm would clear that cue... wouldn't it?
There are a number of items that vendors, or some vendors, have in limitied stoclk.

Of course, the primary reason for killing vendors was not to restock them but to empty their bought items to re-start for vendor farmers. [/b][/quote]
See now that would have made sense to me, I never knew that some vendors sold some items that had a fixed number. Wouldn't killing the vendor hurt your faction making it harder to buy stuff too, lol? Well I gues you ould always do it with an alt, but still, lol.

[Jebasiz]

Originally posted by Potus@Jul 26 2006, 01:59 AM
HELLO ARYSE, WHERE ARE MY NUDE PICS
She posted pics once..they weren't nude, but there were pics. I was told they were on hateguild.com too. With all the pics, pic threads, and crap over there..it's a miracle to find anything other then the front page.

[Schaeffer]

Originally posted by Jebasiz+Jul 26 2006, 09:56 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Jebasiz @ Jul 26 2006, 09:56 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Potus@Jul 26 2006, 01:59 AM
HELLO ARYSE, WHERE ARE MY NUDE PICS
She posted pics once..they weren't nude, but there were pics. I was told they were on hateguild.com too. With all the pics, pic threads, and crap over there..it's a miracle to find anything other then the front page. [/b][/quote]
She posted it here once, if i remember correctly we got a tiny glimpse of what she wears over her infamous pink panties until she removed it due to stalkings hax0rs...


/whistles to himself and tries to look innocent...

EDIT: Oh, I forgot Dalnoths so fat that when the aliens tried to abduct him, they blew the hyperdrive trying to tractor beam his ass to the anal probe room.

[Xislaben]

Originally posted by Schaeffer+Jul 26 2006, 01:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Schaeffer @ Jul 26 2006, 01:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Aryse Andenter@Jul 25 2006, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by Schaeffer@Jul 25 2006, 03:06 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Xislaben@Jul 25 2006, 10:44 AM
I read something about SOE stopping people from being able to kill merchants to restock them and such...
That doesn't make any sense, vendors have a list of items they sell that are infinite. All other items in thier cue were sold by players, and killing tehm would clear that cue... wouldn't it?
There are a number of items that vendors, or some vendors, have in limitied stoclk.

Of course, the primary reason for killing vendors was not to restock them but to empty their bought items to re-start for vendor farmers.
See now that would have made sense to me, I never knew that some vendors sold some items that had a fixed number. Wouldn't killing the vendor hurt your faction making it harder to buy stuff too, lol? Well I gues you ould always do it with an alt, but still, lol. [/b][/quote]
If they're on faction yes that would suck, but I thought lots were non-agro even though you could damage some of em. I've never killed em myself, well, not intentionally.

But like pinky said, it was a great tool for tradeskillers to be abel to kill a vendor and then let unsuspectiung players sell valuable tradeskill goods to them (to later buy).

It used to be that vendors had near unlimited inventories and they only displayed 80 items or whatever, but if you bought stuff new items not displayed (that had previously been sold to them) would appear, and you could find neato things and even seed vendors with items. Then soe got mad about storage space, so they poofed the invisible list, and now it's WYSIWYG on vendor inventory, giving rise to the need to kill them, as once a vendor is filled up with useless items, anything new you sell to them gets irrecovably destroyed /sigh.

[Schaeffer]

Dalnoth's so fat that the only thing too big to fit up his ass is brahman's head...


http://www.playwithlinn.com/Images/funny%20pics/oh%20snap.jpg

:P

[Brahman]

pfft

my ego wont fit either.

do you really think THIS ego fits inside a gnomes head?

fuck i gotta carry this thing around with a tow truck.

[Schaeffer]

That's what I'm saying, the fucking tow truck will fit up Dalnoth's ass but the rest of you won't...

cause he's so fat.

[Brahman]

whew and here i thought you were insulting me !

dalnoth's so fat bigfoot hides in his folds !

[Nadori]

Hmmmm i dont like this tread.

There is a lot of personal attacks in it.