Sedulous Subversion

[Sliderfx]

I am in need of the 56 spell sedulous subversion.... The words are never in the bazaar. The words needed are Awareness, Exhileration, and Sapience via casters realm. Does anyone know if these are the correct words and if so where can i find them?

[Fizzleplink]

Yes, those are the correct words. No, I dunno where to find them. This is a spell I'll get IF I have luck and find a drop (drops in Skyfire amongst other spots), or when I have no other use for Awareness.

Awareness - also for Demi Lich, and it's also a rarity in the Bristlebane Bazaar.

[Nigyl]

I think I bought the spell for 100pp in the Bazaar... is it really that rare?

[Tumi]

Keep watching for the spell itself in the bazaar. As to research, I doubt you will find awareness for a reasonable price since it's also used in demi lich, which is a very sought after spell. Personally, I would not waste awareness on subversion unless I already had demi. Repeat after me...I am not a battery, I am not a battery.... ;)

Tumi

[Nigyl]

Repeat after me...I am not a battery, I am not a battery

Yeah, but once you have Demi Lich you have mana to burn for a few levels: Sedulous Subversion comes in very handy when someone in the party has just cast a lot of high-mana buffs on everyone, particularly if another party member can give you regen... throw on Demi Lich and twitch them for a bit and you'll be ready to fight a lot faster.

Of course Mind Wrack is vastly more effective, but only when fighting caster mobs in a group of casters. The only time I ever heard anyone say they were low on mana in the raid group I was in last week was when Mind Wrack was resisted by three mobs in succession.

[HazardousPanic]

Not sure what server you are on...

Here is what I did....

Go to Allakhazam.com and print out the Necro spells (49 and higher is what I did). Then go to the bazaar some night with coin to burn and go into find and type "Spell: [spell name here]"

I have found about 10 spells so far - including the one you want for under 50p each. I have tried this two nights in a row and found that it veries greatly - one nihgt you have 10 ppl selling the same spell, next night one. If there is alot of ppl selling it - you make out since they all try to undercut the cheapest guy.

[Tumi]

Nigyl, lol...don't take me so seriously ;) I have subversion, and it's a good spell for helping a cleric in PoK who is medding to give you virtue, or as you say, to help someone who has just buffed the group, and there are other times as appropriate, BUT, I think the conversion rate, what you lose for what they get, makes this spell pretty useless as a full time tool. I think the mana is better spent on Dots instead of handing off pieces of it to another caster. We are only talking about subversion here. I love mind Wrack and always have it loaded in group situations when going up against casters. During the course of a normal group outing, if you are having to continually feed mana, I say your group is ether not assembled correctly or someone is ill equipped or not managing resources properly.....IMHO :)

Tumi

[Draz]

I totally agree...

When someone ask for a mana dump the 1st thing I think of is , Wow..they do not know how to manage their mana..and then..Are they crazy...For every dump I do, do they realize they amount of DPS we are losing... :)

[Spuukee]

On Vazaelle, it seems to be quite rare, or I just have rotten luck. I didn't get the spell until I was 64 :blink: And I checked Bazaar every time I was there. Finally, I found it up for sale for 500p and jumped on it. And the words....I've NEVER seen Awareness yet and I saw Sapience just once, for 10K...eek.

[NeSikWay]

Look under spell research for my document, I'll post it again here, its a compact short version of everything I've read here, found on the net, and found in game in my travels and other necros that have sent me information.

Necro spell research info (http://home.ripway.com/2003-12/48207/necro%20info/Necrospellresearch.doc)


In this is a list of words, and known drops. I mostly only list rare or hard to find drops.

[Sliderfx]

I bought demi when i dinged 50 because it was cheap at that time so the isn't a big deal to me. I want the spell for those emergency occasions when pulls go bad and cleric needs mana because of some incompetant tank that pulled way to many. Every time i look in the bazaar for words or the spell itself it is nowhere to be found.