56-61 Plane of Storm Frogs

[quik2]

Well patch day and server still down, so more piece of shit microsoft paint diagrams from me.....hope u enjoy it.

http://home.pacbell.net/quik2/pos.jpg


As you can see on the picture. 2 Kite Path, I personally kite on the path near giant fort. Note: U can't kite on the other path untill all frogs in that area is death, else u will get adds. ALL FROGS ARE WANDERS, THEY ARE NOT STATIC SPAWN. They usually spawn in the area w/ the 4 circle next to each other. You will find frogs all all area's w/ circles, they wander to all those places.

You can Technically kill them at 56, but will be very hard 10+ mins per kill. Get's easier at 58 since u have pyrocuor.

Anyways on w/ the guide. RULE #1 NEVER EVER GET OUT OF CASTING RANGE WHEN KITING FROGS!!!! EVER! Why? because of the PISS Poor pathing there, if u get out of range, they will wander and not follow you, therefore during that time They will REGEN their Health at 5-10% a tick! Did I mention never get out of casting range? ok got that covered.

Nothing will assist frogs here except other frogs and the giants. The trees, animals, snakes won't bother you here. You will be aggro kiting these frogs, they have very low resists w/ dooming darkness, extended range + spell haste is recommended. Pull w/ dooming darkness, apply lvl 4 fear(generate aggro), send pet, throw in pyrocuor, splurt, plague or whatever disease spell u have that lvl, throw me ignite blood, I also throw in boil blood but up to u. Reapply darkness every 70-80 secs. Reapply dots. NEVER GET OUT OF CASTING RANGE! Kite back and forth along those Thick Black Lines, dead Frog in about 4-5mins at lvl 58.

There's around 6-8 frogs there, this camp like all other good experience camps are highly contested. I usually go there when no one else is camping them, since there's not enough frogs for 2 ppl. If a druid/enchanter is charming a frogs there, that means there's one less frog for you, since it's charmed, u are down a frog.

Anyways 33 Frogs will net u a lvl from 58-61. This is much faster than PON gargoyles IMO, they give way more experience and takes about same amount of time to kill. Finding it not camped is the only bottleneck.

Like always all image are taken from www.eqatlas.com, I have no permission to use it. Will take it down if asked, now go exp and get off my thread. If you like it bump it, if not another n00b_009 will make another thread on where to experience from lvl 56-61. Thanks now drive through plz.

[Dempig]

i like your guide , im just ahving a few problems.

Im only using pyrocrur , splurt , scourge , and vexing mordiana (when im low on hp) but im still having problems keeping mana up enough to chain pull. Im having to take med breaks every 1-2 frogs, which makes the exp kinda slow.

Also, they are only giving me 2% a kill at 58 , instead of the 3%. Were they nerfed or something?

By the way i am constantly having lich up ( dont have demi ), and using a horse.

[Jebasiz]

demi lich, or lack there of may be the cause of your downtime, if at all possible get an sd or pot9 before you go next time and see how you do, that's about the difference between the 2 in terms of mana regen, and then you'll know for sure. If it really bothers you and you have the resources get either a mana preservation item or an affliction efficiency item (they're GOOD to have anyway) and that should go a LONG way in reducing your downtime.

[quik2]

u're probably getting 2.5% a kill, atleast I did at 58. U'll see 1 frog give 2% another give 3%, this tells u they are 2.5% a kill. I did them w/ po9+demi lich, almost zero down time with that combo. Buy pet toys too, every bit helps. The thing that sucks is when po9 goes after 1hr 40mins. But no biggie pok is close, find druids w/ Elder AA title next to their name =) usually those po9 last 2hr 30mins. But yep experience slows down when po9 goes, 3-4 po9's should get u through ur lvl anyways. Gets easier w/ emissary of thule imo, 52 rogue/56 monk pet miss way too much as the frogs are super red con to them. At 60 w/ funeral pyre these become really good experience, at 60 I could clear every frog and still have 5mins of wait for respawn.

[drewz21]

Thanks for the post, Quik. I think I'm gonna try it out tonight and see how it goes.

Good hunting.
Jos.

[Dempig]

Thanks for help guys. Quick question though , all im missing for demi lich is words of awareness, where can I get these? I never see them or the spell in bazaar.

Also, does po9 stack with virtue? I usually have virtue on since i play on rallos , and want to be able to survive getting hit a few times by players while im fighting. Or is there any other hp buff thaat stacks with it?

[xeether]

Po9 doesn't stack with Virtue. If you want max HP buffs go for:

Brells Stalwart Shield (65 Paladin)
Symbol (Cleric)
Po9(Druid)
Focus/stamina (shaman)
Self sheild


you could probably get all those buffs easily in PoKnowledge within a few minutes. All but maybe Paladin will most likely have full extented duration. If you're really a buff whore and want some mana regen, bug a Beastlord for beastie crack, it will stack with Po9 and your Lich line. At that point you should be uber hp/ac/mana regen necro. And maybe it cost you.... 250plat, but hey, what's your xp worth to ya?

[Dempig]

lol, thanks =)

[Jebasiz]

Po9 doesn't stack with Virtue. If you want max HP buffs go for:

Brells Stalwart Shield (65 Paladin)
Symbol (Cleric)
Po9(Druid)
Focus/stamina (shaman)
Self sheild


Maelin/arch shielding line doesn't stack with shaman focus line, Their buff is more hps but no Magic resistance, ours is less hps and adds magic resistance... Forceshield will stack and adds 2 mana regen/tick

[Renouncer]

I started PoS frogs at 59. I would never try this at any level before this because even though it may be do-able it just wouldn't be efficient.

It took me like 3 deaths to figure out pathing and where the frogs spawn. I found the safest place to kite is by Relv the Mysterious he cons ind and never assists frogs. Another place to kite is to stay high on the hill wall, be careful because frogs can spawn close to the base of the hill but its still safe to kite on the top.

I have a timer for darkness it helps out a bunch I highly recommend it. I just type eq timer in google or something and set it up.

ceramic skull is VERY nice ... its a real lifesaver
ceramic gavel is nice also but hard to find sometimes
BA3 helps out also... I picked up a PRIM book with BA3 for like 8k

at 59 I would pull with dooming, splurt, CoC, send pet, pyro, refresh splurt and CoC, repyro, and what ever i need past that re-dooming as needed.

at 60 you get arch lich and FPoK.... I would pull with dooming, splurt, CoC, send pet, pyro, pyre, re pyre, re splurt, then probally vexing, everything should coming off at around 25%, re CoC and sit and med.... I would ususally end fight with 50%hp and 50% mana... right before pet would finish frog off I would re-vexing and just med until I have 80% mana... ususally one minute or so.

At 59 you only get 2% per kill as of two or three days ago
At 60 its AWESOME I was getting 3% every kill and 4% every other other kill or other other other kill. AAxp at 60 is 7% not to shabby. Lvl 60 only took me 3 hrs.. fastest level ever!
at 61 its back to 2% per kill

[Eyez]

Thx for the post - Im gonna try it tonight :D

What's the best way to get to camp from zone-in? Looks like hugging the Eastern wall?

At 59 you only get 2% per kill as of two or three days ago
At 60 its AWESOME I was getting 3% every kill and 4% every other other kill

Just curious why does the exp go up from 59 to 60? Is that because 59 is a "hell" level as they say?

[Rikam]

How viable is this at 57 is it crazy downtime have demi vm and a druid pet for pot9 just trying to leave the monotony of bloodravens lol. At 57 will it be 2% a kill as well went there at 55 and had druid almost kill forg and gae i finished off was only 1%. I figured it was because he was too high above lvl at the time. Thanx. Also, the reason for the chane in exp from 59 to 60 is that there were3-4 hell lvls as i remember 51 54 59 might have been one more and soe decided to just smooth out the hell lvls and make al lvls a bit harder after 60 most of the lvl's are cake now.

[drewz21]

Ok, tried this last night at level 55.

With my rogue pet and my own buffs, I was able to kill one of these frogs and have about 40% mana left after a kill. Two kills would give me a full blue bubble of xp. You have to have a SOW or Run3. I have Run3 now so I didn't use a SOW potion and if I ran a little farther than normal before turning and casting, I was able to re-stick Dooming Darkness on it. Resists were not too bad. I would usually re-apply my DOTs 2 times while aggro-kiting it and sic my pet on it at about 89% life. Never had a problem with it pulling on my pet as I had to reapply Dooming about 3 times per fight which kept me plenty of aggro.

Also the few times it did hit me.....OUCH! Upwards of 400+ a pop. The lowest I got to was 26% life but never died. I cannot tell you enough to keep it snared. There was 1 frog that took me 4 casts of Dooming before it stuck.

It was a bit exciting getting to the camp and also in fighting them as I had never been here before. Also I was very safe on the back wall were I would aggro-kite them so I could sit down, med up, and do other things until full.

Good hunting.
Jos.

[Captain_Crunch]

hmm... accidentally sent post twice and I can't delete so read the post below

[Captain_Crunch]

lol I was halfway through writing a guide (halfway = about 3 pages worth for me if you have read some of my guides) for PoS when I realised one already existed :angry: . Anyway I have a couple add ins for this for the lower levels of this (55-57 in other words).

I tried this place about level 55 (last level) and probably spent about 3k in rezzes trying to figure out the best way to do this at this level (some people told me to go to PoN, or in other words plane of noobs but I can't stand that place so I was DETERMINED to figure out how to get this working).

Buffing up
Most is covered in this guide, but at the lower levels you need a slightly different strategy. Bottom line is these guys hit HARD. By hard im meaning doubling for about 550-600! Thats why I strongly suggest getting a virtue or the full round of buffs as is mentioned up higher. you WILL get hit, whether from lag or the wierd pathing but basically unless you have AT LEAST nearly 2k or greater health you will probably die, and thats without being stunned.

Also if you just have lich you MIGHT want to get a KEI, if you have demi lich (Im saving up for it costs (*#@*(#@ lot on my server and the only money advice im hearing is HHK guards and Rathe giants but thats another story lol) you shouldn't (and you would be sacreligious if you do get KEI) need a KEI. Any other buffs are useful but those are the two main ones.

Pet toys are always useful, read my guide on pet weapons (my first stickied guide :D) in the general section if you don't know why.

Also as with any aggro kiting make sure you have a form of speed enhancement, whether it be jboots, sow or run3.


General Info
Due to verant hating people getting 2-3 levels on a mob while being pled they made a cap on the amount of exp you can get from a mob. So what does that mean? It means that you will be getting just as much exp per level as you will be at 60 (percentage wise at least), which to say the least is VERY annoying. Also you WILL have downtime, no maybe about it at this level. Resists will happen a lot to you (obviously since they con red) but not as much as you think. As quick said they have VERY low resists.

So why would you want to hunt here with all of those bad things? well despite the increased kiting/downtime, you still get 2-2.5% exp which is double of plane of nightmare (or as I call it plane of noobs) per mob. Over time this works out to getting exp about 1/3rd faster then PoN, which although not that significant the more exp the better. Also, since this place is practically deserted, you don't have to deal with stupid bards and rangers training you every 5 seconds, and generally there will be less lag. The place looks pretty cool too :).

Getting down the business
I suggest setting up by Relg the mysterious (once you get out in the forest area, the north-east part of the map follow the zone wall to the right until you see him), the spell line up being FD (either first or last most people prefer last slot), BoD, Dooming darkness, splurt, Envenomed bolt/cessation of cor, Fear (for aggro), Augmentation of death (I prefer this memmed all fo the time because of the HORRENDOUS recast time on it), and the last slot either lich or another dot of your choice, personally I prefer clinging darkness if dooming gets resisted because of the faster cast time. Buff up, summon pet (as always turn off taunt) and give pet toys.

Then go out and find a lorok, pull with dooming (if resisted clinging darkness, when sticking then doom again, they are regular run speed so if you have run augmentation you shouldn't have a problem). and run back to relg. There is sort of an invisible wall that loroks can't pass in relg's area so you don't have to worry about adds. When you can put on envenomed bolt/CoC (if you use EB you have about 20 seconds to stick Dooming darkness before it wears off), then splurt, then just recast dooming darkness/splurt when necessary (I use a timer and cast it 15 seconds before it goes, or on my timer 2 "big ticks"). you can also recast EB but I think thats too mana inefficient to cast it every single time. Now you will want to fear whenever you get a chance, 2-3 should do it but I usually overkill and fear 6 times lol, it won't stick but it aggros like crazy for little or no mana. If you DON'T fear you better hope that you are recasting EB every now and then because if you don't the lorok will turn on your pet about 30% health (around 50% if you are using pet weapons) and your pet has an insta-death. When in run mode, run behind the lorok and re-sick pet (at least if you are using rogue so it gets behind the lorok) and sit down and watch your exp bar move 2-3%. PoN is A LOT easier then this, the mobs won't insta-kill you if they catch up for example, but you WILL get more exp then PoN if you know what your doing. This will last you till BoT (62 or 63) so good luck grinding! Also someone reply to my CS guide (44-53) (http://www.necrotalk.com/index.php?showtopic=946) lol I didn't spend 2-3 hours writing it to not get praise. Anyway I hope this helps you people that are below 57 if you are looking for a change in atmosphere from PoN this is the place to go.

[Salizarr]

Great, wonderful information here guys! Thanks a lot for this! :)

I have a few questions:

1) Does anything here sees invis?
2) From zone in, what is the easieast/safest way to get to frogs?
3) Whereabout is this Reg guy we are supposed to stick around?

I made it to 56 yesterday and want to try them later tonight,

Thanks again!
Sal

[Jebasiz]

giants see invis

[Salizarr]

Hey all,

Can anyone confirm whereabouts Rev the Mysterious is?

Can these frogs be efficiently killed by a 57 necro?

Thanks!
Sal

[Renouncer]

Relv is in the corner past the giants... just keep following the right hill side way past the giants and you will see him... he always cons ind. and never assists the frogs. 57 is probally to low to try the frogs... 58 is min. cause of pyro... If you have demi and full spell set u can level pretty quick here its really good exp...

[AanuuarVF]

One more question...

What about the Trees in the area. I went out there and saw about 20 trees around there...

1. Are these killable? (Or do they summon)
2. Anyone ever have a problem with them adding?

[Darkowen]

Only thing I have found that summon in PoS are the giants(cant recall exact name of mob).

[AanuuarVF]

I'm pretty sure almost everything summons in Plane of Storms... even the Armodillos :( The frogs are the only thing I'm sure doesn't summon, and that's only from this thread.

[Captain_Crunch]

I wouldn't bother those trees. Like it was said earlier everfything else summons (including them) and the trees root so I wouldn't bother htem unless you want a royal ass kicking.

[Captain_Crunch]

Alright I have been timing this so I have some rough specs on how much exp I get an hour here.

Buffs I had:
KEI (well I have demi lich now WOOOOOOT too bad that was AFTER I did the measuring)
PoT9
Fo7 (this didn't really impact it but I think its always nice to have)
symbol of kazad (so those massive hits dont' take you out in 2 seconds)
naki's spiked ring (fast cast time I get this with necro pet toys from a mage)
and of course necro pet toys.

I was using rogue pet, I casted envenomed bolt till it stuck once, splurt about 2-3 times, dooming darkness when necessary, and about 4-5 fears to make sure it is stuck on to me like glue (since demi lich ill probably use BoD and another envenomed bolt in each round).

After setting up I took exactly 2 frogs in the time it took my augmentation of death to run off (17 mins, well actually I finished a bit before this). Since I finished before that and had about a min to med after I casted it that averages about 16 minutes for two froggies, as I killed 2 froggies. What that means it is about 1% every four minutes, and roughtly 16% an hour. That might not seem a lot but doing a pretty good gorup in PoV I maxed out at 12% an hour, with only 1 person needing to be replaced (and replacement came after about 2 minutes). Basically this should be able to last you until you are 63, so if you are looking for a boring but reliable and reasonably good exp grind this is the place for you (I myself will probably be there for at least till 60).

Remember however this was at 56, as you slowly gain levels resistances (and at 58 pyrocuor will be available) will drop, and actually since they con red they give MORE exp at yellow stage, so this will probably be a consistant 2% a kill up to 60 (and then it will STILL give good experience). Ironically this means you will probably get more exp per level instead of less :lol: .

[Adilya]

Thanks for sharing this hunting site. Before I came into work this morning I killed 10 froggies. For me, at level 58 with 0 pct xp to AA is was a flat 2 percent per kill. I get exacly one yellow.

I was using Dooming, Pyro, Cessation, Splurt and when I needed to heal...Mordinia.

I did learn a few things.

1. Manaskin! That peridot is much cheaper than having to use an EE to rez yourself.

2. Give em a wide berth when turning them around, they really do have a strong
p!mp hand.

3. Apply darkness liberally, better safe than sorry. I plan on being here though most of the weekend. :)

[AnimocityStromm]

At these levels, the Iksar XP penalty is very evident. I duo'd with a gnome necro in PoS through most of Level 60 (we were both level 60), and he was getting almost a percent more xp per kill than I was. I was getting 3.5-4%, he was getting 4.5-5%.

As for the frogs, they backstab for 600+. that's what sucks if you ask me. That, and if you run too far away from them, they lose agro and start to regen like crazy.

when I was still using Dooming Darkness, I'd cast splurt right after I landed snare and then start to try to land another dooming when my splurt damage got to about 150. They like to resist Dooming and I would have to cast the spell 3-4 times on occasion. Giving yourself room for those resists is very advisable. (Once you get Embracing, they don't resist nearly as much, and it lasts 2 whole minutes, so it's a whole different ballgame.)

[Aequitas]

I'm a little over 60 percent through 56 and would like to know how this compares to the difficulty of PoM yard trash. I can do PoM yard trash for hours without a death (Unless there is a freak accident of some sort)

[Shenlonx]

I've done both Aequitas, and I'm 56 as well. The frogs just aren't worth it at this level, unfortunately I haven't been to PoM since 54, but my advice would be to stay in PoM till 58 then head to PoS. I'm sure once I get Pyro the xp will really start to move in PoS and it will only get better :).

[RedManx]

Ok went here with guild at 55 all guildies where 58+ with 1 56 bst from another guild...anyway,

doin fine every 10 or 11th cast get e resist, well guildy pulls a frog wile i went to a door afk, (fd'ed) they all wipe besides a 58 paly (no clue how he got away think he just ran when he saw 2) but now they are caping the body's becouse of paly? onlyreason i can think of.

do i just outa fd snare 1 run like hell, snare 2ed 1 and aply dots to it, dot first 1. rince repeat,

end resolt is 2 dead frogs 3%mana and log cleric for rezes :)


moral of story 55 necro with decent gear should be able to do this ( i didnt have any mana preserve items on or afliction effeciantcy. might be a bit slow after 3ed or 4th pull but hey at this lvl the 3 min it takes to med up is more than made up for in the larger xp per kill (i think at least)

[Godwrath]

I started to hunt at PoS today, got a virtue and went happily to kill the frogs. I am an iksar necro and at lvl 58 i am getting almost 2% per kill (4 frogs 7%), after kill some i thought it was going to slow... but i went back to PoK and got a Bo9... everything changed, i was chain pulling and killin 4 each 17 minutes (to rebuff pet and demilich).

That means almost 28% each hour at 58.... it should get better at 59 with new pet :D, this place rocks.

Btw Quick since now max lvl is 70... when are you going to update your guide to 65 at least ;), thank you for the well done work in this guide.



Godwrath
Defiler lvl 58
Lanys T'Vyl

[Tephaneis]

Originally posted by AanuuarVF@Mar 29 2004, 12:42 PM
One more question...

What about the Trees in the area. I went out there and saw about 20 trees around there...

1. Are these killable? (Or do they summon)
2. Anyone ever have a problem with them adding?
they summon yes, also snakes and bears will assist trees, giants and frogs ago on anything

[Durmin]

I came here at 58, a few days ago, right after completing the skullcap progression quests.

I died a couple of times while trying to hammer out my own technique, but I finally got it down, and got to 59 fairly swiftly off of these fellows. The zone was fairly empty as I worked (over the course of two days), and I only really ever saw one other person besides myself zone in, other than a guild flagging itself for BoT: a fellow necromancer, also looking to level off of the frogs. He would see that I had them, and leave. I came in once to see that he had them, we chatted a bit, and I left.

Anyway, just tonight, I zone in to PoS with intentions of possibly reaching 60 before I log, but I see that the other fellow is already there. I ask him to put me on the waiting list, and leave. Ten minutes later, I get a tell from him:

- "Sheesh...you can have them. That's the second time just now that a frog warped and killed me."

Confused, I asked him about it...this had never happened to me.

- "Never happened to me before, either. I don't know what's going on."

Thinking that the other fellow had probably just let the frog catch up to him without realizing, I set up camp on the far Northwest side of the zone...my spot of choice.

Sure enough, I experienced two deaths within a half hour from each other, due to frogs that suddenly seemed to be endowed with enhanced resists (and I thought dooming was hard to land BEFORE), and an uncanny ability to suddenly catch up to me after being what I _thought_ was a good distance away...more than max casting distance. No, I'm not getting TOO far and suffering from the bad pathing.

Is this happening to anyone else? Did something change?

[Godwrath]

I was yesterday there hunting perfectly... had you checked your ping ? and i dont mean only the info you are receiving delay.... so also the info you are sending delay.


saludos

[Azrioth]

I have 56k modem and I :wub: frogs.

[volse]

What about the red elemental ( Swirling Monsoon thingy ) ?
Is it best to stay on edge of precipice or up on the zone wall to pass it ? It scowls at me and would probabaly muller me if I got too close.
Cheers for any info.

[Dreamcrusher]

I was quad kiting frogs tonight in PoS with a 55 dru. I'm now level 57 and we were getting excellent experience (probably better solo just wait till i go back tommarow :D ).

Anyways we had no problems with pathing and I just stayed out of the way or the swirling monsoon.

Happy Hunting All

[Carlon]

yes what about that elemental?


before it never attacked then one day it just aggroed and pwnt me before i could do anything

[bzt]

how the heck do you do this..I am 61 and am getting HORRIBLE resists on dooming darkness on these things. and once I get 1 resist on pull, I have to fd and let it reset, or try and try again and die.

[Carlon]

First of all to answer my own question about the elemental --

i had attacked it on accident, i don't remember what had happened but now that i think about it i DID do something stupid.

and to answer bzt's question

Getting resisted doesn't happen much, but when it does it seems to come in bunches. I would be fighting for an hour with constant pulls and no resists, then all of a sudden I use 20% of my mana landing snare... it gets REALLY bad, I would reccomend just FDing after the 4th of 5th try of it not landing... if you dont have SoW/Run3/Jboots break off sooner.. but anyway resists do happen but not as often as you would think. I soloed there from 59-63 and died 3 times, once because of the elemental, and twice because darkness would get resisted. Its tough, but just stick to it and its worth it in the end.

[Godwrath]

Originally posted by Azrioth@Oct 4 2004, 05:40 PM
I have 56k modem and I :wub: frogs.
I can bet it :), the problem was i had a virus, hehe, my connection was really bad. :lol:

[Godwrath]

Originally posted by bzt@Nov 4 2004, 07:07 PM
how the heck do you do this..I am 61 and am getting HORRIBLE resists on dooming darkness on these things. and once I get 1 resist on pull, I have to fd and let it reset, or try and try again and die.
Have loaded engulfing darkness too, and you wont need to FD

[skriim]

curious if anyone else has had pathing warping issues recently with the frogs? I hear rumors that they are uncampable now.

Anyone done in the last few weeks confirm one way or the other?

Hopefully going to move on tho these next week if they still doable.

Skriim

[Dookoo]

Went there today at lvl 56 and found out the hard way that the elemental will kill you. Hits for 1000 and procs a long lasting stun. Besides that I did ok. Even if you get a resist on darkness they run so slow that you have plenty of time to try again.. sowed of course. Only problem I had besides Monsoon elemental is that while kiting, 2 frogs spawned right in front of my toad and aggroed on me. Again outrun them and FD. Nice to be able to kill these badboys in mid 50's. Probably not a whole lot of classes if any that can do that.

[Jawsh]

Ok I dont see why the maker if this guide wants you to kite right in that dangerous area where they spawn and where the elemental is, you have to kite so far up the wall and always be on the lookout for other frogs. What me and EVERY other person I have seen do when camping the frogs is camp near the little tunnel you come out of when you first enter the forest area, with the giant fort on your right, and just kite up and down past that tunnel. Ive never once gotten an add, and you can just run around and pull the frogs cuz they DO spawn over there ive seen some pop near the fort numerous times so they dont just all spawn in those 2 areas on the map. I think that spot is much better and you have a less chance of getting add's and whatever. Sorry if this has already been mentioned I dont feel like reading thru the 3-4 pages of posts

[Necrotocis]

I personally use the kiting places that Quik marked out on the map and never have had any problems. I find that there are more frogs available on that side of the Giant fort and I dont need to run all over to try and get a pull. I also dont need to pull them across the front of the Giant fort to get them to my kite spot.

The only other thing is that, most places I find, while kiting you need to pay attention to what is around as to not get adds. There are not too many spots where you never have to worry about adds. If there was no chance of getting an add I would be bored stiff, there has to be some elemant of danger for it to be any fun, at least for me. :D

[Dookoo]

The elemental actually has a pretty small aggro radius. That's why I got so close to it. It said scowling but didn't attack me till I was almost right next to it.

[rukasak]

I have done a number of levels and aa's with both my druid and my necro here. I use the kite area that is along the zone wall next to the giants that are a static spawn by the rocks next to the fort.

giants have a very small aggro range and are not social with the frogs so you can pull them out of there if within spell range. I only have rs3 and journeyman boots but I have always been able to run ahead and recast darkness. You can also root them using your one minute root if need be... a little ghetto cc.

My kite path takes me only so far before I turn around and head back to the giants. Speaking of giants, you can continue to follow the zone wall past the giants all the way to the fort and not aggro any of the giants (at least i never have). I have had to do this on more than one occasion if my snare doesnt land and hoppy is no longer happy (and dead).

as to the elemental, he didnt use to aggro, but he killed my druid the other day. My druid hunts all 7 frogs at one time and uses that area down there by the elemental to charm/kite with and apparently I got too close?


after a certain point though, you will get tired of the frogs, as you may have to wait for respawn, and start hunting elsewhere like NC.

rukasak

[nick]

Your guide is very helpful im going to test it out later tonight hopefully i wont get killed with my luck.

[Xarken]

Thanks for the guide, this is the best spot i've ever seen but there is one problem. I was soloing there today and I never saw more than 3 frogs at any one time. Did they nerf the spawns? Or are my frogs just stuck in the fort? This exp is worth it at 59 as i've never found anything better at that level. Oh well, i'm gonna tough it out and hope im just going crazy.

-Xarken

[nick]

Great guide i got an AA last night useing your guide and map from them frogs thanks.

[evildeath]

:angry: Dinged 58 last night, so i memmed pyro and off i went to get me some frogs.. BUT they were all gone.. :ph34r: noone in zone only me.. waited 20min for repops but nada :(

Has PoS been changed lately ?!?

[taecken]

i'd like to add to this:

kite where it says on the map. i made the foolish mistake of kiting through the woods, along the northen edge of the gorge and got backstabbed when a frog spawed

You can kite from the upper northwest corner, all along the wall that runs southwest (where the indiff npc is in the upper right corner). That's a safe area too.

If you do get out of casting range, but not that far out of range, frogs will not regen. If you run a mile and a half (like in PoN or OT) then sit, it will regen.

Don't sent the pet before 95% (especially your 61 pet)

For added xp, use lesson of the devoted and stedfast servant right before your first mob dies. You'll save a ton of mana on taps.

to get to the frogs:

zone in
go east, follow edge of the zone all the way north.
mobs will not aggro you in the first part of the zone
follow the wall all the way around
go through the tunnel filled with water. there are no mobs in there
when you surface on the other side go east again, but high on the wall (Kithcor Style)
Go all the way until you ge to the northwest most corner

I can't see how you'd do this zone before level 60....lol

[ToKu]

I owned the forest area with my druid, killing the medallion mobs out of boredom. And now do this area with my necro.

-Nothing but frogs assist frogs, you can pull them even if they are surrounded by giants, snakes, tree's etc.

-Nothing else agro's, if you kill the other animals you get no faction hits that will make them later hate you. Tree's, snakes, dillo's, etc are all social to each other. Everything except the baby bear summon.

-Only giants see invis, and they dont wander. All static spawns along the right side in the fort and around some rocks in the corner. Very easy to avoid.

*edit* the bee's in the tree do as well sometimes/most of the time. But they are only inside the tree so you will see them less then the giants.

-There are 7 frogs with no placeholders. Sometimes they walk (SLOWLY) around the edge of the ravine, you can check here they are the only one who wander, and you cant fall in. It used to happen alot but now its more rare, they will get stuck in the giant fort, becomming a PAIN to get. You can try pet targetting, because GM's wont reset them anymore (maybe depends on GM but they stopped for me).

[Elzzabub]

So I dinged 58 last night and came up here to see where the best spot would be. The frog camp seems very cool if its what everyone says.

Here is my question .. I can box a 67 shaman so what I plan on doing is sending her pet in as well and have her toss a dot here and there so I should be able to kill pretty quickly.

But here is my real question .. any other camps you could think of that I could do with that kind of support?

[Elzzabub]

so I must suck compared to all of you...

I went to PoS and pulled me a froggy . . did just like everyone says and sure enough dead frog! ... but 10M. It seemed like most of you could kill a frog with 50-60m .. I used 90. Well I must say that I might have focused to much on HP and not enough on int/mana items.

My second frog kicked my ass because DD seemed to drop pretty quickly but that was my fault.

Maybe I need to reevaluate my gear to make this work.

Anyother suggestion?

[Darkeeyes]

I would say just off the top of my head to upgrade some of your focus Items.
The (Ceramic Skull of Decay) (Coldain Military Wristguard Quest) and maybe the (Ceramic Gavel of Justice) would help alot. The quest for the wrist guard you can do a search for on this site and find, and both ceramic items you should be able to bazaar. That'll give you BA3, AE4, and ...... and ...... someone help me here not enough coffee......... but anyway that will help out alot as to your Dots being more efficient and you mana preservation. Hope it helps a little ;-)



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[edybrom]

I owned the forest area with my druid, killing the medallion mobs out of boredom. And now do this area with my necro.

Any tips on soloing the medallion mobs as a necro and/or druid duoing?

I have the estoteric medallion from the river camp but still need the desert and forest medallions to complete my BoT key.

[Elzzabub]

I was thinking to myself that BF3 will only last until 60 .. why waste the time but then I kicked myself and said Im gonna be using all my current dots well into 60's!

I have done this on my shaman and druid so great idea!

I still think I have an int problem ... actually I got one of those claws from HS last week .. thats got like 30 int on it right. I hope I didn't tribute it =)

[Desh]

Your int is fine, as long as you have enough mana to kill one mob. Get a Ceramic Gavel of Justice, it will save you 25% mana on every DoT you cast, which should be everything you cast when aggro kiting. Also, focus on using the most efficient DoT lineup possible rather than just killing quickly. Splurt is a great spell for efficiency.