View Full Version : Lvl 1 to 63 in one month SOLO!
quik2
02-28-2004, 03:54 PM
No matter what lvl you are always buy Magician Pet toys, it will significantly increase your kill rate from level 1 to 55
Since I made a buncha guides this one will put everything together in 1 thread.
Yep I created a new toon, started w/ nothing but a bag of mage summoned focus items and whatever newbie items u get when u create ur character. No need twinking or anything, necros are good soloers. Buffs are your friend when u hit 45+
Twinking won't help that much, skills > twinks =) Virtue at lvl 46 > any hp items u can get for ur necro.
Quick Tip: To keep no rent mage focused items when u log off. Go to the Arena in bazaar. /shout can someone please kill me in the arena? That's it get kill, u lose zero experience. log off, when u log back on loot ur corpse in arena, focused items will stay on corpse =) That's how I kept my focus items from lvl 1 to 64 =) still using them right now. I ain't uber and I ain't twinked.
lvl 1-4: Anywhere is good, I like freeport personally. Kill whatever that moves, pet w/ mage pet toys = 1-4 in 10mins.
lvl 4-8: East Commonlands, kill bears, young lions, anything that con's yellow. Pet w/ mage toys will solo everything yellow. 4-8 in about 30mins.
lvl 8-12: Field of Bones, kill everything in the pit area, pet w/ mage toys again, will own everything. 8-12 maybe 1-2hours.
lvl 12-24: Pauldral Cavern (http://www.necrotalk.com/index.php?showtopic=791) about 8-10hours.
lvl 24-29: Lake of ill Omen (http://www.necrotalk.com/index.php?showtopic=792) or Dawnshroud's Peak (http://www.necrotalk.com/index.php?showtopic=793) about 10hours or so.
lvl 29-39: Dawnshroud's Peak (http://www.necrotalk.com/index.php?showtopic=793) approx 20hours.
lvl 39-49: Echo Cavern (http://www.necrotalk.com/showthread.php?t=788
) Approx 20 hours.
lvl 49-55: High Hold Keep (http://necrotalk.com/showthread.php?t=781) Approx 12-15 hours.
lvl 55-57: Blood Ravens at Plane of Nightmare (http://www.necrotalk.com/index.php?showtopic=631) Approx. 25 hours.
lvl 58-63: Plane of Storms Frogs (http://www.necrotalk.com/index.php?showtopic=790) or Plane of Nightmare Gargoyles (http://www.necrotalk.com/index.php?showtopic=632) Approx. 20 to 40 hours depending if u choose frogs or gargoyles. Provided you have all your spells also, example: Funeral Pyre =)
Lvl 63-65: POV/HOH/Tactics, too lazy to write this guide, plus I don't want u bishes to take my camp spots =)
There u go folks, good luck. 55-58 is the worst, once u get through that it's gonna be cake. Good luck.
EDIT: Gonna add this in here, it's really common sense.
When you want to lvl fast....................ALWAYS
1) find spots w/ zero risk of death.
2) good sustainable experience w/ minimum downtime
3) Always kill blues, any con higher is just not worth the downtime, and risk of death. (Exceptions are POS frogs/PON gargoyles).
4) Find places that's has easy and fast access to POK (this is were u get buffs).
Sure u can kill mob_01 at insert_lvl_here, but is it worth it? Can you sustained ur kill rate w/ minimum downtime? Is there a big chance of ending up dead? Are there other camps that is easier and faster?
These are the question u should ask yourself when deciding which camp is better than others when u are trying to lvl fast. If it takes you 10mins to kite something that gives 1-2% a kill chances are there are easier and faster kill rate camps. Let's face it 1-2% a kill that takes 10mins = 6-12% exp an hour. which means it will take u anywhere from 9-16hours to get a lvl OUCH. But like always there's gonna be ppl who's gonna tell u this and that spot is better. Dulak comes to mind lol, avoid LOY at all cost, experience blows there.
When I was lvling up I read these guides here about how good Dulak boats were, went there for an hour made 6%, instantly gated. Guys 6% an hour is not good experience FYI. If you are making less than 12% an hour something is wrong, u should find a better camp.
BTW if you're reading this and your name is Stromm.Animosity go tell your mom to jerk you off and go to bed. This guide is probably too hard for you to understand.
Doomfir
02-28-2004, 04:40 PM
Very good guide. Not sure about PoN at 55 without the person getting smoked a fair amount unless he is really good, but if they could then would be good exp.
Definitely get the mage toys though. Effectiveness will diminish as the level increases.. but in the lower levels they are like a free power level.
Fillapus
02-28-2004, 06:09 PM
Hello all,
How do I go about getting these Mage Toys? What level magician casts these summon items? And how do I get them back from my pet so I can go get killed in the arena to keep them? Just thought I should find this out so I can follow the guide :P ! Thanks for all the excellent advice guys.
~Fillapus
Jebasiz
02-28-2004, 06:14 PM
I've seen lots of 55s in pon...atleast the raven spawn would be solable, and probably the trees and spiders by the zone in, obviously I haven't tested this....
Aneastin
02-28-2004, 10:56 PM
From my experience in PON at 54+ the Static spawn of Ravens is the only worthwhile spot at 55. Hunting around the entrance takes too long to drop a mob and you end up getting adds.
Skulmar
02-29-2004, 01:14 AM
Originally posted by Fillapus@Feb 28 2004, 06:09 PM
Hello all,
How do I go about getting these Mage Toys? What level magician casts these summon items? And how do I get them back from my pet so I can go get killed in the arena to keep them? Just thought I should find this out so I can follow the guide :P ! Thanks for all the excellent advice guys.
~Fillapus
Go the zaar and do a search for "summoned". This will bring up a list of the mage summoned toys. Look for the blade of walnan, hand of ixilbit, kedge blade, mask of mardu, belt of girdle of mag'kot. Spelling is off on those but whatever, you'll see what I mean. Once you give them to your pet you can not get them back so dont lose the pet, or... buy 2 sets of the mage gear.
These are from higher level mages. You can also buy mage rings/bracers for faster casting and burning affliction. It's all no rent tho so spend wisely. :)
Nigyl
02-29-2004, 01:53 AM
At least at the lower levels it's also useful to get summoned bags of plate armor, and a summoned shield. That makes the pet quite a bit tougher when it's getting hit, and the pet can still equip the shield in the back slot even when dual-wielding.
Deathrat
02-29-2004, 06:01 AM
I've seen necros solo frogs in PoS as low as 55 but you have to be reaaalllly good. those frogs are highly resistant to snare and hit VERY hard. Almost as hard if not as hard as tactics mobs. Oh and best place to solo in tactics is safe room :blink:
but dont steal his camps Lol.
Fillapus
02-29-2004, 08:33 PM
Hey Thanks Skulmar!
That was a huge help. I found the stuff and leveled from 13 to 17 in about 3 hours at PC!!! That's fast for me at least :P .
I was just wondering though, how can I be sure my pet is equipping the stuff (like the belt) that i give hime. Can i check the pet's hitpoints?
As usual thanks for the expert advise and happy hunting!
~Fillapus
Tomandny
02-29-2004, 10:10 PM
Originally posted by Doomfir@Feb 28 2004, 04:40 PM
"Not sure about PoN at 55 without the person getting smoked a fair amount unless he is really good, but if they could then would be good exp."
I was in PoN at 52, took a while per kill, but the method is very simple. SoW and HoV are your friends. I wish I could go back to 46 and try this now that I know the method and see how tough it would be.
DemetriousSlaye
02-29-2004, 10:54 PM
PoN is doable at 51...i know this for fact...just gotta learn how to it..you'll die once or twice but the xp is wonderful.
Lyndark
03-01-2004, 12:43 AM
Tomandy what was your strategy? I'm 42 right now, I could go try it at 46 if you want.
Just wondering.
-Lyndark
Thromia
03-01-2004, 09:43 AM
very nice guide. i have a few questions though:
anyone care to detail the mage pet toy price list? i'm curious to what's available and about how much they "typically" sell for.
also, what do you solo in paludal caverns?
Salizarr
03-01-2004, 04:42 PM
I was in PoN at 54 fighting ravens.
Sometimes it got really nasty with quite a few resists (so far Darkness and Plague are the ones that get resist more often, with Darkness being top resisted). I was fear kitting like the guide says and where it says with no trouble.
Fear does break quite easily and never ever have your pet tank, specially if using the 53 one, they will die like flies, unless of couse you need to run and FD.
Things there hit and hit HARD so don't panic. I always had Manaskin up so if i got hit (which doesn't happen often once you get the hang of it and learn your space) that would absorb quite a good ammount of the damage.
Only other problem i found there besides the resists is that there is no loot (at least from ravens).
I then decided to move to HHK. At 54 XP there is a lot slower than PoN but you is minimum risk with the plus of making a few plat while getting some XP. Oh, and i love to wrack my reputation with humans and elves!
Sal
Neante
03-02-2004, 01:39 PM
In my opinion..... The easiest way to solo any mob in Planes of Nightmare are.... agro kiting with your pet. Fear kiting is dangerous in PoN. Here is what I do at 55.
summon rogue pet.
Only two spell essential... darkness and level 8 fear spell.
you can kill treants... ravens... basicly if you can snare it... you can kill it.
pull with darkness do not sick pet just yet...
cast level 8 fear spells on mob once or twice to build agro. you will see a message that the mob is too high a level for the spell to work. this counts as a resist and builds MAD agro on them.
sick pet on mob and take it for a walk. go in circles. as long as you don't forget to keep that buggar snared your pet will do all the damage.
If you have a mount... you can med while kiting. By the time its dead you will have close to full mana and reddy for another.
Pet toys will improve damage output of your pet and kill it much faster. Downside of pet toys is that they will do more damage and make more agro... you may have to cast fear a few more times to hold agro.
Edited for spelling and grammar =)
Hope this helps!
quik2
03-03-2004, 09:59 AM
In my opinion..... The easiest way to solo any mob in Planes of Nightmare are.... agro kiting with your pet. Fear kiting is dangerous in PoN. Here is what I do at 55.
Aggro kite in PON sucks. There's no way u can sustain the kill rate of fear kiting. I can do 4 bloodravens before respawn + an occasional tree. There's no way u can match that aggro kiting, since u don't get to sit and med while it's being feared. The spot I posted on blood ravens at PON has nothing around there, u can fear it and they won't aggro squat while u sit and med. All that sitting and medding while it's being feared adds up big time. Anyways enough about PON I hate that place w/ a vengence, besides the gargoyle camp. 55-58 blows big time, u get zero new dots, no new pet, you would think SOE would add a new dot at those lvls.
Salizarr
03-03-2004, 11:17 AM
I agree with quik2.
If you follow his guide, you will not have any problems fear kitting ravens, just make sure you keep them snared.
I have yet to try gargoyles, but i'm working on run3 and regen3 atm in HHK.
Sal
xeether
03-03-2004, 05:55 PM
okay, on the topic of mage pet toys. If you haven't equipped yoru pet with them yet, you have no idea what you're missing. The difference between your pet's raw lethalness is like night and day. I would never recommend fighting without them now. IMHO, pet toys > KEI/virtue (KEI is the devil don't give in). Okay so how to go about getting pet toys...
I saw the above post mentioning the /bazaar. that's a bad idea if you don't want to pay a lot. I see kedge blades going for 50pp in teh bazaar. Just go to PoK or PoTranq and
/ooc Donating for Mage pet toys.
or
/w magician
be kind and ask if they will accept a donation for summoned toys. I prefer the kedge blades, mask and haste belt. I always offer around 75pp and most mages are really thrilled by that, and usually summon me two sets. again, pet toys > KEI/HoV. With my pet as a wrecking machine I can regain that 75pp in no time. If the mage is cool and summons two sets, then I can be more risky with my first pet, especially when breaking a spawn cycle in a camp.
pet toys good. Get them, love them, live them.
Renouncer
03-04-2004, 08:11 AM
I would never have to disagree and say aggro kiting is the best method for PoN... and why do people use low level fear spells when the agrro kite?? It is wasted mana... I NEVER have had my pet (even rogue) catch aggro. I always start a kite with dooming, splurt, and CoC..... never have any problems sending in pet after CoC ever and before CoC I used EBolt and never ever had aggro problems. Anyways lose the habbit of fear kiting because after tier one you can't utilize fear kiting anyways. I believe 55 is the max level mob you can even land fear on.
1-60 in one month is easily attainable... I did it in 20 days played. This is my first character in the 60's so I didn't twink him out.
1-50 in 10 days and 51-60 in another 10 days played.
That equated to about 3 months real life time for me.
Aneastin
03-04-2004, 05:43 PM
Manawise fear Kiting is a much more efficient killing method then aggrokiting is. You use the level 4 fear in cramped areas because it breaks sooner so the mob doesn't travel as far. This cuts down on Adds. In particular the static spawn of the ravens you use to have to use lev 4 fear. Before the fear pathing was revamped a feared raven would head straight for the ravine and aggro Hobgobs. So the only way you could fear kite there was to use the level 4 fear because the ravens would rarely make it to the ravine.
Drakkel
03-04-2004, 08:34 PM
Originally posted by xeether@Mar 3 2004, 05:55 PM
I see kedge blades going for 50pp in teh bazaar.
Hehe, I don't know what server you play, but on my server, The Tribunal, its only 5-7 plat for any of the 3 weapons and about 10 plat for the mask and belt each, and thats in the baz ;)
Nytewind TP
03-04-2004, 09:02 PM
Aye, they are 6-10pp each on Tholuxe Paells also... Who ever is charging 50pp is most likely trying to fish in a n00b that doesn't know what a NO RENT item is.
Zarkdon
03-07-2004, 08:49 AM
thank u very very much. i just swichted servers so this will put your guide to the test. will be interesting to use it thank u again
Rikam
03-26-2004, 04:25 PM
Seriously someone sticky this plz lol took forever to find it)
Rijak
03-26-2004, 07:57 PM
great guide... mostly where i hunted when soloing
only change i might make would be to mix in tanking needlites in echo on occassion from 24-31 to max out defense
AnimocityStromm
03-26-2004, 09:37 PM
needlites will max out defense AND offense. You should have Banshee Aura up at all times there, which makes every hit offensive, also.
Neffy
04-05-2004, 04:58 AM
when you said lvl 58-63 to go to PoN or PoS for 20 hours or 40 horus choosing wichever yyou choose, wich was the 40 hour camp and wich was 20 hour camp?
I know i know i should read the other threads but right now i have done 55-57 in PoN and going to hit 58 when Real Life will let me. A few things
1. There is no diffrence between static ravens and the mobs at the zone line. IT IS ALL ON THE LEVEL OF THE MOB. The ravens trees and spiders will vary from i think 50-54. Obviously if you get one on the higher ranks of the food chain you have resists but you can use some flaws in the the hills to get off a root and then hit it till it is snared with dooming then get away if root breaks hit with magic resist debuff and smooth sailing. Seriously off the entrance stuff i made great exp, now at 57 it is 3-4 mobs per blue.....
2. Leave LFG on and if you get a PoV group go! I find more agro kite groups in the PoV which will give you as good exp as soloing per kill and you kill every 3 - 5 mins!
3. Picture the zone in there is the WW camp by the river and the static spawn ravens at the water fall, but if u go north of the building you have the dead tree in the corner. I normally pull from the north of the building. Why? Glad you asked if you hunt in PoN or any zone each mob has a certian path they travel. Its so clock work it can make a person sick. I have observed that just off the north side of the house two mobs will always come and stop. Normally, 99 out of 100, you can pull the near mob and not get any adds. Not tomention if you go east along the wall, going all the way north to the coner where the dead tree is, there is a static single spawn mob! The mob is random i have killed a raven, tree, spider, and banshee there.
4. Now lets go over money. Trees are the most profitable, seeing how i have no aa's i still buy sow potions to aggro kite. Trees drop a glowing leaf which on a vendor will sell for 80 plat i want to say. Not tomention they drop Nightmare Bow sticks which go for 30p a piece in the bazaar. Off a 3 to 4 hour camp i normally have 5 or 6 leafs and 6 bows.
5. lastly i will breifly cover the mobs and my exp from them
Trees: Can be a major bitch, i think they spawn a little higher level than the rest but they also drop the words for the casters cape. Root (the high level root for a 57) seems to hold the least on these. Also because of the way they are drawn/rendored sometimes they are a lot closer than they appear. Easy kills though. i open with dooming, pull back a few steps splurt and venom to build the aggro, send in rouge pet no taunt. Now i run it from the house to the north corner and re dooming, this is my timing scheme, and hit with life tap and diease run to house and sit. Redot and snare when needed.
Spiders: These are a bitch if they get to you, my 58 warrior knows this pain :). So key here is snare snare snare. But i think they spawn same level range as ravens cause 75% of the ones i kill will not resist much at 58 but that 25% will resist 20 + times. They are faster, at least in appearance, than the rest. THe bile is looted for the +5 to all stats! so kill till you get one.
Ravens: These seem to have the least hitpoints, but were the hardest for me to keep agro on with out loading a fear spell. Keep that in mind cause its easy to run it and sit down then see your pet lose half its life in 4 seconds. They loot little feathers worth 2-5 plat and its rare.
All mobs are killed the same way i listed as trees if the banshee spawns in the static random spawn she is level 46 and went down very quick but horrible exp. I did try gonig to hedge and kiting the mobs there speed isnt the same as others when snared. Seemed like i couldnt get spells off they were quick so stay at the entrance. Havent tried gargs at 57 but read on this board it is doable like the PoS frogs.
quik2
04-23-2004, 09:03 AM
Nenn u forgot the most important part on why kill ravens instead of other stuff at PON. You can fear Ravens =) ANNNNNNDDDDDDDD no one will bother you there, ppl don't camp there. That camp is almost ALWAYS open. I'm sure some dumbass will either train you at zone in, or you will train other ppl. And even if u have total control of u ppl, ppl generally don't like u kiting around GY. Anyways do what u think is best =) and at 57 go kill gargoyle, fuck the raven. Raven are suppose to be for 51-56. I can't edit my post else i would change the title to reflect that.
Yes i am going to say, that on Luclin the ravens are normally gone if you play during the peak times. I just started gargs and if you follow the way to the hedge camp you will be fine on the run around. Gargs con white to me at 57 but dont resist and camping on the side of the guide i made in 2 hours
2 blue diamonds
1 raw diamond
1 diamond
2 perdiots. Pretty good for a necro with out demi lich, its 6 k on our server :(
Fizzleplink
04-24-2004, 12:51 AM
/drag off topic: Demi Lich is running a lovely 18k on Bristlebane now.
I can predict I shall not remain below 60 for a moment longer than I must.
ssyruk
04-26-2004, 08:30 AM
I can confirm that as of today the price for demi lich was 8k on Luclin :( . I'll just wait for Arch Lich rather than give some over-pricing tool my hard earned cash for a marginally better spell.
Edit: I found someone selling Demi Lich on Luclin for 2k! I love captitalizing on the ignorance of others hehe :P
AnimocityStromm
04-26-2004, 08:34 PM
Manawise fear Kiting is a much more efficient killing method then aggrokiting is.
I gotta go ahead and disagree with this. If you learn how to "med-kite", you can effectively meditate and kite at the same time, meaning you get maximum mana regen without spending mana on fear. It also saves you from having to recast fear if it breaks, and it makes zones with funky fearpathing much easier, because you dictate where the mob goes.
I did this until I started xping on mobs that were too high a level to fear. Come to think of it, I rarely used fearkiting levelling up.
Rijak
04-26-2004, 09:05 PM
i'd say fear and aggro kiting are a toss up on mana, or so small as to make little to no difference... L4 fear is 40 mana, and you can med-fear-kite too
i still use it in PoM from time to time on the lower-level mobs (L54)
i just don't like the idea of running away from mobs anyway <_<
though i play the druid when i must :angry:
Pixiknig
05-06-2004, 12:20 PM
Hiyas all.
Very good guide. Been told by guildies to aggro PoN and it works well. Yes down time happens a little more than I would like then again demi-lich has shot up from 5k to 15k on VS sooo I will wait till 60 where my baz bought arch-lich is waiting( go figure arch lich cost me 100pp and demi is just silly pp).
I recommend PoN for AAing at 56, 4% per kill is just insane xp and I have nearly nailed my 3rd AA within two days there on a 3 hr and 2 hr camp.
Just would like less resists on darkness lol, nothing worse than having to zone when your mob at 40% but darkness won't stick and you lose a hard earned kill.
Rangorn 56 th Iksar Necromancer on VS :blink:
cornflkeboy
05-06-2004, 12:49 PM
I paid 10k for Demi Lich on Terris-Thule and I just assumed it was because it was a rare spell. But after winning the Black Silken Bridle on a Grieg raid, I now know that you cannot use your spectre lich forms on a mount. So I use Demi-Lich while i am on my horse and even thogh the mana regen may not be quite as good, its pretty damn close and its VERY nice not to get sit aggro or have to sit/stand all the time.
BTW--A skellie on a black horse dual wielding Scythes is just so damned WICKED looking /cackle
Omnius
05-06-2004, 03:04 PM
when you said lvl 58-63 to go to PoN or PoS for 20 hours or 40 horus choosing wichever yyou choose, wich was the 40 hour camp and wich was 20 hour camp?
Plz answer. I need some AAs.
eidolon
05-07-2004, 07:40 PM
quik2:
Pardon me if I missed it (tried searching your past posts and gave up looking)...
What race is your necro?
I have an Iksar necro that I started 13 days ago (approx 3-4 days played time) and was simply trying to make a correlation between your guide and what I've done for levelling.
Your guide looks interesting, although I didn't see it until a few days ago, thus my "differing" path. Well, that and I don't like to be cookie cutter per se =).
Thank you,
dottingmachine
05-13-2004, 04:21 AM
Is it possible to do POS frogs at 53 or 54, since we get the rogue pet at 53, and a couple of nukes here and there can make up for the lack of dotting power? How many hps do these frogs have?
Darkowen
05-13-2004, 03:07 PM
Originally posted by dottingmachine@May 13 2004, 03:21 AM
Is it possible to do POS frogs at 53 or 54, since we get the rogue pet at 53, and a couple of nukes here and there can make up for the lack of dotting power? How many hps do these frogs have?
If you can get in (can't recall if you need to be flagged for PoS at that lvl) you will probably find that its not the lack of dotting power....
You will probably have tons of resist and downtime due to the blown mana just trying to snare them. You HAVE to keep um snared.
I personally went at 58 and found that I was getting faster exp in PoN ion gargs, b/c I had less down time. I was back at 61 and it was much better, in fact I did them for a while the other day for aa exp(still pretty nice at 65) when HoH was over crowded.....
Detharzz
05-14-2004, 09:40 PM
Hello, first off I love this site and finally decided to register an account.
I have used some of the guides here and they have helped tremendously.
Was soloing the Ravens in PoN from 56-58, only wished I had read about them earlier. Very easy when darkness isn't resisted. I do however have a kinda funny story. Went to the camp and it was open, however there were only 2 Ravens spawned as opposed to the normal 4, which of course is terrible exp at 58 to kill 2 every 20 mins. So I kill the two up and start to look for the others. At first I thought an Enchanter might be using one for a pet, but after a while it never shows up.
Well I take a peak over the cliff there and sure enough they are at the bottom beside some other mob. I decide to try and pull them up to reset thier spawn point. Pull with Dooming which sticks, but of course the other Raven and the other mob agro as well. This was expecrted so I ran way south to the water fall and FD. It works so no problem. I wait a min, stand and FD again to make sure.
Then I head back to camp/pet and start to pull again since all the spawns are reset. Dooming sticks, and I go about DoTing, send pet, refear... however I forgot to re darkness, and it wears off. NP as it's pretty far away so I start spamming dooming as it flies towards me, get halfway through casting before it hits me. I run to get some distance, try to cast again (I have SOW on by the way) it hits me as soon as I stop. Well to make an already long story short, I later realized that the mob the two ravens were beside was in fact a Druid that decided it likes the Ravens and wanted to SoW them. Well it took me like 5 circles running around before I could even FD again, just turned pet taunt back on and kept running till all my DoTs wore off and pet pulled agro long enough for me to cast on it.
Anyway, that was way longer than I intended. Love the guides and will be trying the Gargoyles when I get home. Lvl 58 now but took a break lvling to work on the shawl a bit. Have the 7th shawl now and be a while before I can do the 8th.
BTW, Demi-Lich sells for 20kpp on E-Marr easily if it is ever sold. I refused to lvl to 58 untill I had it and got 8AA's instead.
Also PoV groups do indeed rock. My role as a necro there was to handle adds untill group killed the first. I would snare the add and agro kite it around the group until first was finished then usually had 5-7 pets chasing the mobs as I still held agro. (Group members trying to get the agro) Exp there is the best I've experienced to date.
Last note: Good God I didn't mean this post to be so long, but I'll use the fact that it is my first post as being the reason for the length.
Happy Hunting all.
-This space for Rent-
paalrh
05-21-2004, 02:49 PM
cant we pin this post i use it often and is getting pain to have to go look for it all the time
elidie
05-25-2004, 10:17 PM
high keep will no longer take you to 55 . At 52 if i was doing bards, nobles , that girl , and carson i was getting around 16% to 20% an hour .At 53 i stayed for about 45 minutes only got a few % .
49-51 was very good exp and of course good loot.
Scarecrowe
05-26-2004, 01:57 AM
Originally posted by Jebasiz@Feb 28 2004, 06:14 PM
I've seen lots of 55s in pon...atleast the raven spawn would be solable, and probably the trees and spiders by the zone in, obviously I haven't tested this....
Soloing in PoN at 53+ is a doable. Ingredients: Virtue+manashield+SoW/jboots+ 49 pet+dooming+a good snare timer = XP cake. Note: stick to Birds and trees exclusively and just be careful. I've died once because I got cocky and tried to channel an FD while a tree was actually hitting me. As long as you're careful about your dooming not wearing off, you're golden. If your snare gets resisted (on the pull) then just run ahead and FD.
I prefer PoD rats and goos, however at level 54. Just avoid the necro spiders, they're evil.
Edit: I see there's already 30 posts on PoN pre 55, shoulda read though first.
Vaxuli Zazu
05-26-2004, 12:53 PM
DOnt go buying those mage items ... just do a / all mag in pok and ask nicely for 3 sets of pet items ... mask belt and fist ... i havent been rejected one when asking nicely ...!
this will haste ur pet 12 % add dammage and add 550 hp to ur pet ..! kicks ass in the low lvls...!:)
BTW : Kick ass guide .. realy apriciated ..!
Zarkdon
05-27-2004, 07:29 PM
I think this is a very good guild except for where to fight at 29,
I dont like DSP i hate them, i think there exp is good but i dont like the zone which can count for almost as much as the exp gained.
if u are tired of DSP and are 29- 34 i would try soloing the Sk splitpaw spires, there are not adds ( maybe 2 mob on u at most) and these are rare, if u are not stupid u should get very fast exp with FS as loot and split paw tunics and neclasses.
anyway try them i like them, the biggest problem is getting there u need a tp or a tl or its a long run.
closest book is in Oggok just run threw Rathetear Rathemounains. enjoy have fun
Lucificate
05-27-2004, 08:38 PM
I did crawlers in the PoD CY from 53->56, and i went from 56-> 57 in 6.5 hours at frogs in PoS. I think some of these level recommendations are a little conservative. Im an Iksar, btw.
To agro kite frogs I just dark, splurt, ignite, CoC send pet and vexing when i need to get health back. They hit too hard to let em get unsnared so I reapply snare very very often just so I dont forget. I reapply CoC whenever it wears off and resplurt once.
I havent died yet, only got hit the first time I tried it and that was just one round and I lived through it (whew).
You have tons of room to run ahead and redark if they resist on first shot.
I use affliction haste, efficiency and ext range of course. Have demi lich and FT 4 (I had pot9 for some of my time there so far, which certainly helps!)and i sit to med every tick that I can safely. I end fights at or near 100% mana typically unless i get an extra large amount of resists.
Both splurts will run their course at ~20% health so each fight takes about 5 mins from pull to death. Its been damn good exp!
DrunkenNecro
05-31-2004, 11:45 PM
ok am lvl 29 and set up camp where ya said in dps, only problem is there are no regular zelniaks anywhere to be found, only large zelniaks and after running around a bit i found some small zelniaks over near the 3 mushroom spawn by SS, have regular zelniaks been taken out or something cause i brought my ranger over and i didn't see any on track..............Tallon Zek server, can anyone confirm this?
paalrh
06-02-2004, 03:58 PM
large zelniaks are palceholders for other zelniaks and vice versa. So the reaso nfor the lack of normal zelniaks is probably that they have been hunted pretty heavily so that Large ones hav been spawning in their palce.
Thing to to is just to kill the large ones or wait until someone else do.
Lvls 24-29 for me were spent in Warsiliks Wood. If you go into the caves near Dalnir zone, there are static spawns of brutes. They drop decent loot for their level and are sweet xps up to 30ish. Another bonus is that few people know/care about them, so tey are usually not camped.
DrunkenNecro
06-09-2004, 05:54 AM
been hunting dsp forever now and still no regular zelniaks, pretty sure they have been removed, only zelniaks besides large are small zelniaks over near SS entrance and they are green so they are useless, they might be good for 24-29
Drakkel
06-09-2004, 07:44 AM
I hunted down there in DSP a couple of hours as well, didn't see one regular zelniak the couple hours I was hunting large ones, as far as i'm concerned, they have been taken out <_<
paalrh
06-09-2004, 08:05 AM
:lol: he he looks liek ypu guys are just unlucky.
Taystlyk_Chickyn
06-09-2004, 10:54 AM
I'm a level 54 necro. This is in regards the submission by Neante on soloing in Nightmare. I decided to give it a shot. Here are the results.
1st try pulling with Dooming Darkness: Resisted , FD, pet dies.
2nd try: Resisted , FD, pet dies.
3rd try: Resisted , FD, pet dies.
4th try: Snare lands! Cast low level snare. Run around. Run around. Run around.
(fast forward 4 minutes), Run around, Run around.....raven dies!
Result: 1% xp for like 5 minutes kiting.
Is this normal? Am I doing something wrong or is this the correct time/xp ratio?
GnekroeGnomicon
06-09-2004, 03:26 PM
Yes, once I hit 54 I think exp slowed to about 12-15% an hour at best so 1% per 5 minutes of kiting is about average.... kind of disheartening :)
Utelr
06-09-2004, 04:36 PM
Originally posted by Taystlyk_Chickyn@Jun 9 2004, 09:54 AM
I'm a level 54 necro. This is in regards the submission by Neante on soloing in Nightmare. I decided to give it a shot. Here are the results.
1st try pulling with Dooming Darkness: Resisted , FD, pet dies.
2nd try: Resisted , FD, pet dies.
3rd try: Resisted , FD, pet dies.
4th try: Snare lands! Cast low level snare. Run around. Run around. Run around.
(fast forward 4 minutes), Run around, Run around.....raven dies!
Result: 1% xp for like 5 minutes kiting.
Is this normal? Am I doing something wrong or is this the correct time/xp ratio?
You need to change the way you pull! :)
If I am resisted I make sure I'm not hit, so my pet doesn't get involved. Even if I am hit, my pet is generally parked out of range so I can FD and not lose 25% mana for a new pet and augment.
I started at 53, and with a sow I could cast snare, if it was resisted, I'd run till the icons refreshed, and recast in time to not be hit. If this failed, run almost back to the ravens spawn point and cast again, then back to my camp etc until it eventually sticks :) at 53 I think the most I was ever resisted was 6 in a row. But then it's very very streaky, and I could go 2 fights without a single resist at 53.
With the 53 pet you should fear the ravens, and med while they get beat on. Took about 4 minutes at 53 IIRC. At 56 they were dying as splurt ran out, so it does get quicker.
But I'd recommend learning to pull without sacrificing your pet. It makes a HUGE difference to your xp over time.
spanky5844
06-14-2004, 01:28 AM
This guide is one of the best I have seen. I was just thinking that HHK sounds like realy good xp in the low 50s, so I could do some aaxp grinding there. Whats the best level to do it at?
Detharzz
06-16-2004, 01:31 PM
Hey all, just to add some spots I haven't seen mentioned here much.
Recently my favorite solo spot has been PoV due to Druids charm killing Frogs in PoS and have only recently started learning HoH, although I must say it is way easier than I thought it would be at lvl 62.
In PoV Outter Caves are almost always taken by a group. If not then this is an ok place with the exception of having to split mobs occasionally. I say ok because there is a much better, rarely camped spot in PoV. Invis and DMF yourself and then run into the castle looking building towards middle of zone. Run up the ramp until you can look over the right side and see a large area below you. As far as I have seen none of the Crystalline Golems or spiders here can see invis, so run over to the East wall.
Target will be Crystalline Golems, standard Agro kite setup. They have lots of HP's so I still use Mage summoned pet gear to increase DPS. The spiders in the area summon, and cast, avoid these. There is also a Lightcrawler type mob that drops a piece of the AD key. It cannot be snared but it can be agro kited in "almost" the same way. If you don't have Affliction haste then your gonna get hit alot. They don't summon but they are fast. But you should only have to kill one of these ever to get key piece as it drops everytime.
The experience at lvl 62 is 1-2% exp per kill. Being an Iksar with exp penalty I normally get 1% per kill and 2% every 4 or 5 kills regular exp. AA exp is 6-7% per kill. The best thing here as compared to frogs in PoS is there are always mobs to pull no matter how fast you kill, They never get in the kite path as long as you use the terrain, and you don't have to run far to find the mobs.
Every single Crystalline Golem is lvl 62 with no exceptions in my week of coming here. All even cons and might resist my lvl 29 snare 1 out of 5 casts except on the rare chain resists. However there is plenty of room to gain distance and recast. Affliction Haste IV and Affliction Effeciency IV are cheap and even though they have horrible stats the mana you save is better than an item that has 10INT 100Mana 100HP's etc etc IMO. Trust me I've switched from a 40kpp Primary wand to a 4kpp Ceramic Gavel just for the focus effects. If in a group where I'm mostly nuking for fast DPS then I'll switch back...
Hope this adds an option for those that often find the other places overcamped
PoV OC RazorFiends
PoV Crystalline Golems
HoH Valorian Guards
PoS Frogs (Loroks)
PoN Gargs (Slow exp after lvl 60-61)
If there are other Exp agro kiting targets at lvl 62+ that I have missed that we can add to our list please let me know. I like to have as many options as possible when I get to my favorite camp and find out is's also someone elses favorite :).
Gnorris
06-16-2004, 10:02 PM
This thread contains some of the best guides on hunting I have read.
/bow
spanky5844
06-18-2004, 06:22 AM
once again i think that this is a very good guide, but any advice what the best level to aaxp in hhk would be apreciated
wbestani
06-22-2004, 03:47 AM
I would do HHK 44-52 based on the exp I got there as a chanter. Good luck getting camp and keep gae up bc you will prbably use it as you watch someone PL thier alt
blahblack
06-24-2004, 04:22 AM
PoN at 55 Rocks, thats all there is to it, screw fear kiting go just north of the grave yard and aggro kite there on the hill, pull everything that moves ( unless you see a goblin then hall a$$ cause they hit really fast and ya cant snare them). Made a full group look like retards there 1 day, they said "we have to med after 2-3 fights you cant solo these things". after # 4 and no down time they STFU real fast " /puffs out lil gnome chest." It's always fun to make the great big orge meat shield feel like a field mouse. :lol:
splurticus
08-15-2004, 04:51 AM
Allow me to be the voice of dissent here and say that PoN exp. isn't all that at level 55. I just killed several ravens and treants and I wasn't all that impressed. It's not bad, but it isn't noticeably better than some of the other spots I've been hunting, and it sure as hell is boring aggro kiting a MOB for nearly 5 minutes.
I have BA3 and AE4, casting dooming darkness, splurt, ignite blood, plague, ebolt, and BoD. Splurt, ignite blood, and plague are all expired by the end of the fights. Darkness resists fairly often, as does plague. I'm using the lvl 53 rogue pet with lvl 44 augment death.
I'll tell you the spot I like better at 55. The first crusaders and sentries you run into in Veksar. I can clear seven spawns (all except the named PH and the one right next to him) between repops. Use a level 49 pet, pull with shackle, land splurt, ignite blood, BoD, shadowbond pet as needed, sit and med once your pet gets good aggro... stand up and close the deal with an undead nuke or two as needed when splurt expires. Only trouble is the HT from the crusaders, which you will always eat when you pull with shackle, so bring a lot of pdots, or else get a virtue or something to help your hitpoints out. Also, the last two spawns I do are the ones on the lefthand side of the Lord room. At 55 I can step down for line-of-sight and start casting shackle on the closest spawn to the left, but he usually aggros before the spell goes off so you need to channel it or try again. The rest stand there looking at you while you're right in front of them casting a spell. Gotta love those Veksar aggro ranges. Mage items help your pet a lot at this spot BTW...
Also, steel weapons dropped by these MOBs can be given in groups of 4 to a NPC in LOIO for decent xp and cabilis faction.
Senlayan
08-15-2004, 11:20 PM
EQ is for total noobs now, when i started my necro, no good pet items, pets didnt zone, no tutorial, had to get corpse at lvl 1, lost exp at lvl 1, jesus, took so long to friggin level
vamprina
08-18-2004, 10:30 PM
hi, i am new to this forum, looked it up through casters realm. anyway i am a lvl 55 DE necro. just wanted to let all you fellow necros out there now best spot i have found so far for lvling from 55 to 60 is in natimbi, killing the ghosts by the large statues. good xp, not any real good loot, a few word drops but there is suppoused to be some 100k neck peice with dmg affliction 3 on it. also cannot fear kite there, but root kiting is fairly simple. i usually get mob down to 50 or 60% health, then let pet bash away while aggroed to me. just thought this would be helpfull for anyone who is getting tired of camping the same old boring places like PoN blood ravens.
wyntyr
08-18-2004, 11:14 PM
These guys in natimbi are pretty good xp and must be quite good AAXP too. The place is perma-camped on Fennin Ro by 65's. Either that or they are farming the neck items.
http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=14226
The irony of it is I have been killing stonemites and the turtles while waiting for the camp to open up and gotten 2 of the FT1 necklaces. Never seen one from the ghosts though.
vamprina
08-19-2004, 12:01 AM
sorry must be the turtles then, but you can safley camp the restless souls if pulled right, great xp.
Singletear
08-23-2004, 06:20 PM
One note: It appears the Sony has nerfed the Hand of ?? mage toy to not proc until lvl 10. So this helps pet damage but it is expensive. Almost any 5p weapon will provide the same result.
8-12 lvl in FoB is pretty slow and yellows do so much damage to pet that it needs huge recovery time. If you plan to spend enought to summon 4 pets (and the mage toys) you can get through a level in about 30 min. Pretty expensive.
I recommend FoB south end until lvl 10, then Kurns Tower. MOBs are very easy to single pull, EXP bonus os 100% and this place will rock you to 16 very quickly.
Hangman
08-27-2004, 08:00 AM
Dont forget that there are some other great fast places to level. Nurga during 40s is great exp and faction for chardok for ring. Good drops here too.
Fronter Mountains Giants at the fort are great mid 30s. Lots of cash loots.
And the spectors in Oasis and gobblins in LOIO are good after you get dmf.
Everreddy
08-27-2004, 06:32 PM
LOIO has a negative xp zone modifier on it now, I don't hunt anything there except for faction or quests.
The Mines of Nurga were recently revamped, and I heard that it is much more difficult now (haven't checked it out myself). Drops are still there and the faction is still good for Chardok.
FM giants have always been decent xp , but the loot table has changed a lot from what it used to be. I killed more than a 100 of them and never did get a forest loop, but several gems, cash, and weapons which sold at vendor fairly well for the level.
Gunthak and Dulak are still good zones but get mind numbing boring after 8 levels in there - Nadox = more of the same, just a bit higher level.
I am 54 now and am splitting my time between PoD, PoJ, with the occasional LDoN thrown in. I just purchased GoD so I will give those zones a try now too.
As Jeb said you equip yourself for where you are fighting, and I haven't had a significant gear upgrade in almost 20 levels, and am broke after buying my spells thru level 60 - so I will have to grind for cash for now and forsake any xp till I get a nest egg together again.
Have fun on the journey, thats what makes this game so good.
Therian
08-28-2004, 10:47 AM
PoN has several camps that a necro can solo from 53 to 58. my favourite was always the 4 spawns around the waterfall close to exit. stay on the GY side and pull the first mob on the left at the waterfall, then kill it by kiting back and forth between GY and waterfall. No adds, no sweat. Then after it is dead, pull the one on the right...rince and repeat (same tactic for the two mobs on the other side of the waterfall). Always take the mob on the left before you take one on the right, that way you will have guaranteed singles.
As for mob types, 4 types can spawn there (accually 5, but the ghostlike thingy is very rare). these are ravens, trees, spiders and young bats. All of them are quite easy, but remember that trees do have higher resists than the others so always pull at max range so you can re-apply snare. Affliction Haste is you best friend here, together some some sort of movement buff (i used jboots, sow potions works too). with affliction haste you can accually kite them even when they are unsnared, but it is a bit scary for those that haven't done it alot before.
When it comes to spells, splurt and ignite blood are a must, since they are never resisted (atleast never have been for me there). After that i'd go for dooming darkness since it's only 6 secs shorter duration and about 3 times as mana-effective. (faster casting time, and that is a must if you want to re-apply your snare). I also used envenomed bolt, but to be honest, plague works just as well. you wont be killing them faster than 2 minutes/kill anyway so long lasting dots are more effective.
Something that also helps is having affliction efficiency, since it will allow you to dot more for the same amount of mana, thus you can take the 4 spawns faster and get a chance to med up and heal up if you screw up.
Ghizmo Mang
09-13-2004, 01:19 AM
PoN at 55 should be cake, I've done PoN ravens at 48 and i do just fine with a prett minimal downtime and thats with using sub 49 spells
bugfinder
10-17-2004, 01:00 PM
one thing that maybe worth adding to the guides is your race.
As an ikky, Ive found sometimes it seems the penalty can seem quite high. Also helps people work out why it may seem different to them.
Im thinking at 54 there must be some old world zone I can agro/fear kite in so they have less hp, but I cant think of one atm.
Tolsadum
11-16-2004, 03:31 PM
Excellent guide. :D But here is what i did so far :
Lvl 1-4 Tutorial
Lvl 4-24 Paludal
Lvl 24-31 Echo cavern
I'm currently lvl 31 and still getting good and fast xp in Echo ;)
Newbie411
11-16-2004, 11:15 PM
Originally posted by Fillapus@Feb 29 2004, 08:33 PM
Hey Thanks Skulmar!
That was a huge help. I found the stuff and leveled from 13 to 17 in about 3 hours at PC!!! That's fast for me at least :P .
I was just wondering though, how can I be sure my pet is equipping the stuff (like the belt) that i give hime. Can i check the pet's hitpoints?
As usual thanks for the expert advise and happy hunting!
~Fillapus
Well,You can tell it is equiping the items you giv it by just battaling with it...you will notice a greater durability and usefullness of your pet with the weapons/armor,that is the only way i know when pets truly equiping armor.
Solvo
11-23-2004, 02:48 PM
I was looking on Illia's everquest Bestiary (http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?zone=172) To find the Frogs. What are these really called. There is nothing called a frog in the bestiary
Sorry I ment for this to be under the Plane of storms Frogs, section of this guide
Solvo
NoxCruor
11-23-2004, 04:14 PM
Froggie Option 1 (http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=10819)
and
Froggie Option 2 (http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=10270)
and
Froggie Option 3 (http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=10336)
and
Froggie Option 4 (http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=10552)
just for starters :P Hope this helps.
Excellent guide, really. Btw, this if my first post :) Been lurking for a while, decided to start up an account and actually contribute to where I could as far as information and helping out other necromancers. Well, might as well start this off right by asking a question or two.
1. I get hunting Raven's in PoN around lvl 55 (what my nec currently is, coming out of retirement). How good is the exp per hour hunting these guys? And from what I've read, we stay here until about 57.
2. How diffacult would this be with a 55 nec, max int, 3k mana pool and about 2k hp buffed? Also, Manaskin...since the patch (and I realize that this is somewhat of a newbie question, please be gentle), do these still take dots to cast?
Thanks!
Nox
Faumienn Hellangle
12-01-2004, 05:34 PM
I did the Overthere at 28-42 i leveled so fast it mad my head spin, took me about 18-22 hours wasnt really count'in
CigamHelspawn
12-02-2004, 09:36 AM
Has anyone done the undead area in Nadox?
I have considered checking it out but looking for experiences of others first.
BTW - In Karana server Demi Lich selling for 12k5 or so.
If one has a drog is there any point really to Arch Lich?
I assume the frogs mentioned for PoS hunting are the ones near the forest giant fort or do you mean the ones in the center area near the click exit to BoT?
Mage pet toys are cast as follows:
Muzzle of Mardu - 11% haste item lvl 61 mage
Girdle of Magikot (there is a lower level belt but try for girdle if you can) 500 hp and some wicked stats lvl 64 mage
Blade of Walnan is a nice proccing sword, fist of ixiblat is similar but hth skill and only one useable by 62+ shammies and bsts Im told... I prefer blade of the kedge... if nothing else they look cooler. lvl 61 for walnan, 62 for fists and 64 (or is it 63?) for kedge. Since oow 66 and 67 have better items... weapons are better, esp daggers for rogue mobs, and a better belt giving 650 hp and stats if memort serves. Getting a couple sets for a 20-40pp donation total is useful.
Armor for pets - I have been told armor is no effect on pets other than mage pets, but can't hurt right?
Also if no one has told you there is an awesome aug in Takish LDON for 760 pts called Diamond Prism of Compnionship. Fot 59+ pets, Im told, kt ups their lvl, hps, damage max by two, and other useful effects. Get it as soon as you can, you will love the effect. It is useable by Mages, Necs and Bsts.
I have 1600 hp and 700 AC or so at lvl 56 ( 40% from 57). No AAs yet but my first 3 will be into innate regen as I already have JBoots. Check my magelo below, I am always looking for suggestions on equi[ment upgrades. I am working up my regen... it is currently 13 over base and seems to take the edge off Demi Lich,
I think the uberest item for Necros is Holgresh Elder Beads. I want one but they sell for like 350-450k on Karana. Unlimited clicky Eye of Zomm... alwats a BoD ot VM target! They no longer drop in game but can be won in shadow haven casino with a Gold Ticket. Usually about 100k avg and 3-4 hrs per gold ticket, but that is average... some have put in 400k for no golden tickets but that is very rare. Turning in ticket gives one of about 40-50 items such as the beads, AoN, the instacast circlet of shadows, the mask of deception (DE illusion) useable from inventory by anyone and such.
Those are what came to mind as I read this excellent guide and thread. Hopw some of my comments are useful to somwone.
Cig
Lvl 56 Necro / Karana Server
Magelo : http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=1063499
Erudster
01-19-2005, 07:33 PM
about the rouge pet.. i'm guessing it backstabs... do you need to equip it with a dagger ?? ... is there a good mage summoned dagger worth getting..??
Thnx for the help.
Felicite
01-19-2005, 08:23 PM
I backstabs all by itself without giving it a weapon. In fact I am pretty sure you can give it a pair of summoned 1hb weapons and it will *still* backstab.
Mordred
01-30-2005, 01:02 AM
Originally posted by CigamHelspawn@Dec 2 2004, 09:36 AM
I think the uberest item for Necros is Holgresh Elder Beads. I want one but they sell for like 350-450k on Karana. Unlimited clicky Eye of Zomm... alwats a BoD ot VM target! They no longer drop in game but can be won in shadow haven casino with a Gold Ticket. Usually about 100k avg and 3-4 hrs per gold ticket, but that is average... some have put in 400k for no golden tickets but that is very rare. Turning in ticket gives one of about 40-50 items such as the beads, AoN, the instacast circlet of shadows, the mask of deception (DE illusion) useable from inventory by anyone and such.
Cig
Lvl 56 Necro / Karana Server
Magelo : http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=1063499
A casino that gives out items that no longer drop and only cost pp?
Whats this all about lol? I just came back to game and never seen or heard of such a thing.
Schaeffer
01-31-2005, 04:48 AM
Yeah, for a while they had a casino up in Shadowhaven. You bought a token, gave it to the NPC, and you got a chance at a cool item. Most of the time you'd get stat food back, wasn't really worth it. Most think it was SoE's way of fighting inflation, lol
Snowbiz
02-10-2005, 07:29 PM
Hi there, With the advent of EQ 2 it is more and more difficult to get a group; so solo classes are becoming a lot more popular.
My Necro is level 58, just a tad outside the limits of the guide above, which is pretty good by the way. PoV is okay exp, and I need the scrolls so I go there plenty but I have died twice there.
What I want is a camp like the Cynthia Gypsie in RM (that mob is factionless and gives great exp from like 21 - 23).
I was actually amazed at the LoY area recently, at lev 57, I got excellent exp in Nadox soloing near and in the castle. There are mobs galore there, but now, at 58, the exp is minimal.
So I am looking for a place to solo at 58 and hey, fear kiting is a YAWN... I want something a bit more original, a bit more fun.
After all, if all we are trying to do is level up, each level, when do we actually enjoy the game? When all mobs are green and we get no exp from playing?
Well just my random thoughts, and addition.
See ya on Quellious.
Snowbiz
Sikin
02-10-2005, 10:48 PM
Blade of Walnan is a nice proccing sword, fist of ixiblat is similar but hth skill and only one useable by 62+ shammies and bsts Im told... I prefer blade of the kedge... if nothing else they look cooler. lvl 61 for walnan, 62 for fists and 64 (or is it 63?) for kedge. Since oow 66 and 67 have better items... weapons are better, esp daggers for rogue mobs, and a better belt giving 650 hp and stats if memort serves. Getting a couple sets for a 20-40pp donation total is useful.
Armor for pets - I have been told armor is no effect on pets other than mage pets, but can't hurt right?
The fists proc at lvl 10 (pet lvl) while the others are upper 40s, maybe even 50ish (forget atm). OOW pet weapons are for the PoP and OOW pets (lvl 60+ for proc) So for lower lvls, sure the pet hits for more dmg with a sword, but 160 dmg proc cuts a mob down faster. Also, if using the rogue pet, you do not need a dagger, any weapon will work just fine. Mine BSes for max using a fist or a sword.
The Belt of Magi'kot is a lvl 62 spell, and is half the stats of the girdle, so yea the girdle is nice if you can get it.
Necro pets can use the armor just as well as mage pets can. This really only adds AC to the pet, but it helps.
Sikin
56 defiler and master of a 65 mage (pet toys vending machine)
Remuts
02-18-2005, 05:45 PM
in PC, should i kill the recondites or the lizard looking things(cant remember name)?
Schaeffer
02-18-2005, 07:15 PM
Originally posted by Snowbiz@Feb 10 2005, 03:29 PM
After all, if all we are trying to do is level up, each level, when do we actually enjoy the game? When all mobs are green and we get no exp from playing?
Enjoying the game... yes the XP grind is often mindnumbingly boring, however, what I enjoy about the game is acomplishments, whether solo or with friends/guildmates. Content that is challenge and the sense of accomplishment that comes with beating mobs and completing quests is part of what I enjoy.
I also enjoy grouping/chatting with my guildmates. I tend to group alot. Not that I have to, but I enjoy my in game friends so much that I'm ok with leting them leech my XP. Yes I level alot slower than most that way, but the time passes quicker when you're clowning around with your friends. (Clowning around by yourself isn't as fun, and some people may look at you funny)
If you feel that you're not getting enjoyment out of the game, maybe it's time to find a guild and make some friends. BSing in /guildchat and /tells is sometimes enough to cut through the boredom. If leveling isn't enough, take a break and get some AA's that are fun, or work on a quest. If none of that helps, maybe it's time to take a break from EQ and try an new game?
Hope you find what you're looking for...
vanladar
03-23-2005, 09:21 PM
Faumienn where in the OT did you hunt? I went there at 28 (like 1 mob from 29) and everything was either red or green to me. :(
Baneling
06-15-2005, 07:30 PM
In regards to dying in the Bazaar Arena to keep one's pet toys, (1) does that still work, and (2) do I have to be killed or can I just life-to-mana drain myself to death?
Thanks!
Xislaben
06-15-2005, 08:02 PM
Originally posted by Baneling@Jun 15 2005, 06:30 PM
In regards to dying in the Bazaar Arena to keep one's pet toys, (1) does that still work, and (2) do I have to be killed or can I just life-to-mana drain myself to death?
Thanks!
Think the arena's no longer there with the new baz, unless it's hidden somewhere sneaky and I've missed it.
Baneling
06-15-2005, 08:08 PM
Ugh. So, is there no not a way to keep the pet toys like described in the original post?
Thanks!
Ghastinus
06-15-2005, 08:17 PM
There's now a PoK stone to the Arena, located adjacent to the west of the AkAnon and Freeport stones.
Nadori
10-27-2005, 06:25 PM
I never had Pet toys so correct me if i'm wrong
But i believe you can use Shroud form to save it...it's a lot easier thank dying each time and a lot more convenient since it's by small bank :D
Edit: I really should pay attention to the dates on post's...that was way back in june
and since i cant erase it.......sorry
Felicite
10-27-2005, 06:48 PM
When Ms Pie comes to visit, I insist she leave her buffed toys at home.
Baneling
10-27-2005, 06:56 PM
What do you mean by "Shroud?"
Thanks!
Suicide
10-27-2005, 06:59 PM
The new Depths of Darkhollow expansion allows you to "shroud" by turning into a monster. I believe it saves your character in his current state when you shroud, for when you unshroud.
Nadori
10-27-2005, 07:04 PM
Yes...i had the same pet for a while now....i think i'm getting attached to him :D
Suicide
10-27-2005, 07:06 PM
Hey I didnt actually read back to what the "shroud" question was about. Thats awesome about saving your pet ! Woo. I cant wait for this stupid patch to finish. Ya'll nec's got me so fired up now. This site's pretty cool.
GnekroeGnomicon
10-27-2005, 07:17 PM
Hey I didnt actually read back to what the "shroud" question was about. Thats awesome about saving your pet ! Woo. I cant wait for this stupid patch to finish. Ya'll nec's got me so fired up now. This site's pretty cool. Glad you are gettin' all fired up :) looks like you fit in here just fine (ie. Welcome :) )
Schaeffer
10-28-2005, 12:36 AM
I just realized we took a 3 page dump on a Pinned Leveling guide, so I moved the Off Topic stuff here. (http://www.necrotalk.com/index.php?showtopic=4948&st=0&#entry50510)
DarkDoomDeath
02-02-2006, 06:39 PM
Ok everyone. Back to subject at hand... ;) . I've tried a few differnt places to lvl at 57. PoS frogs are by far the best and very easy if you'll read a bit further. Here's what I do that makes lvling here quick and I mean quick!! (oh btw never knew about the shroud thingy, gonna have to try that real soon..hehe :D )
At lvl 56 it con easily be done since I don't use any of the 3 lvl 57 spells. I.E Vexing Mordina. 495mana spell cost way to much for the damage it does. First off you need a Horse or DoDH expansion for robo horse. Definetly needed here since you'll be running around and meding. Casting spells and meding. Works great.
Spell Lineup. Deflux (tap) Dooming (snare) Instill (root) Splurt (dot) CoC (dot) Plague (dot) Ignite Blood (dot). Also Demi Lich is probably your best option. If you don't have try Lich but Demi Lich is going to be what makes this place freakin outstanding for XP.
Have Pet Twinked out with Magi Toys and buffed with at Least Virtue, Haste from a Chanter and Dex from more procs. Easily available in PoK. Sometimes free if you know how to handle yourself.
For youself get any mana regen spell that sticks with the Lich Line. I.E POT9 (Dru) Brilliance or higher (Ench) Spiritual Dominion (Beast). On another note Virtue Doesn't Stack with POT9 so don't get V. Also cast Manaskin selfbuff for +1 mana regen and just incase you goof up like I did.
Now For the Hunting. Once you get to the area with Frogs. Lich Up. Get near and cast Dooming. If resisted have on SoE at least or jboots if you gotem. Run As far as possible and recast. Once it sticks cast Root. Then Follow up with Splurt, CoC, Plague and Ignite Blood if root hasn't broken yet. As Root will break fairly quickly on these.
PS. Forgot to mention that after you snare and root. Right Click on Horsey so you'll begin meding, MOST IMPORTANT PART. Dot it up. Send pet after root breaks and make sure to snare and reapply dots as they wear off. Dead frog in about 5min....Good Luck.
This info is dated with the new Hot Zones they added as of today but I highly recommend reviewing them for camp spots. While Scarlet Desert was a Hot Zone the higher Sun Revs produced EXP at a speed that made most of the PoP camps feel like they were tied to a tree.
I hunted there from 56th to 59th. I did not have Demi-Lich any, or pet toys for most, of my camps. I did use a Demi-Lich Skullcap. During each ~23 minute spawn cycle I could pull 12 to 14 MOBs. Each spawn cycle produced about 1 1/2 blue. I imagine with pet toys I could add the Tro Jen spawns that are also nearby increasing my MOB count to 16 or 18.
I averaged a level here every 5 1/2 to 6 hours. The camp is trivial with the only chance of death is falling asleep. The MOBs only hit for 115 or so and with Mortenum running it is easy to just tank in the face to channel a snare or a fear.
Unfortunately this zone is no longer a hot zone but I would really take a hard look at the new ones if I had to level through the upper 50s again.
*EDIT* Having returned from a long lay-off I have rerolled Whar on Maelin.
Malis
03-06-2006, 09:53 PM
If you have the Persistant Minion AA and your pet has mage toys equipped, will he have them every time you bring him back from suspension? Hmmm.
BTW, I just love this AA, I summon so fewer pets now that I suspend mine before I log. And pet affinity rocks too! :P
Aryse Andenter
03-07-2006, 02:35 PM
Originally posted by whar@Feb 21 2006, 11:01 PM
This info is dated with the new Hot Zones they added as of today but I highly recommend reviewing them for camp spots. While Scarlet Desert was a Hot Zone the higher Sun Revs produced EXP at a speed that made most of the PoP camps feel like they were tied to a tree.
I loved Scarlet Desert long before it ever became a hot spot, and that's where I leveled in my 50s. These mobs have a lot less hp than PoP mobs for the same con so you can kill faster, and if you have any computer issues this zone is a lot less laggy too. The xp must have just flown by when it was a hot zone.
maelin
04-14-2006, 10:25 AM
using this guide as a twinked as fuck necro, with dilly-dallying included, it's only taken me 2 small days to get from 1-24.
now i'm in the huge delay warrented by researching the 24 pet, but can't for the life of me find Words of Detatchment.
maelin
04-14-2006, 10:44 AM
also, i'd like to add that i used to play a while back and i remember with my old necro as i was leveling (this was preluclin bullshit super zones) i had fun at 25-28 fear kiting the guards in east commons (watch out for slate) and then from 29-49 i did over there/dreadlands/burning woods/skyfire mountains, and stuck with drakes in skyfire for a couple levels or so past 49 just because i was real into blind guardian and the concept of killing "dragons" made me feel like a bad ass.
but yeah, given the considerable ease the newer mechanics of the game (i'm speaking in terms of, as i haven't confirmed it, but merely observed, the exp caps and hinderances aren't really existant anymore) have been giving me on my reclimb as well as barrenness (player wise) of people in these zones, it might be a good idea to try them out, i know i'm going to.
just 2cents from a guy who started with the release of kunark.
oh, and p.s. the PC part of this guide for 24 was amazingly easy, taking an hour for me. the shiknars couldn't do shit when i had my pet toyed up and only engulfing darkness sitting on the mobs. i just sat around soaking in allure of death mana (taking no hp hit via z's heart) while my pet annihilated them. seriously, no downtime at all and like 30 seconds per kill. i recommend nontwink toons going in with at least clarity and shadow compact and just letting their pet rake in your exp.
Zenobite
04-18-2006, 07:30 PM
I just realized we took a 3 page dump on a Pinned Leveling guide, so I moved the Off Topic stuff here.
Lol thanks was startin to wonder if comp had switched threads .... tickled me no end to know I am sane :lol:
Zenobite.
Gustox
06-16-2006, 05:33 PM
I myself have been kiting in PoNightmare for quite a while now... did from about 52-55 so far... At 56 with Demi Lich things become about 2x faster considering theres not much downtime anymore. I have found this:
-Ravens are most definately the easiest thing to kill
-Spiders have a little bit of Poison Resistance, but barely noticeable over other mobs
-Treants are not a very fun kite. They like to resist snare a lot I find, and they've got a bit more hp than spiders and ravens.
-The Ethereal ghost thingys which I assume are for Dire Charm for higher level necromancers... Just leave them alone, they don't even gross 1% experience at 54 usually, unless you're already 1/2 way through the % itself
Hopefully this helps someone out :)
wenwedrawblood
09-30-2006, 07:15 PM
from about 20-30 u can solo the mobs south of the city in OT. get ds pots and regen and u tank them and exp comes pretty fast.
Gildnao
04-02-2007, 10:23 PM
whats the method used for PoN at level 51? i just dinged 51 from killing in Old Seb with a druid friend of mine but hes leaving town for a while so i need to find a place i can kill solo for good xp, money or drops are too big a deal for me, im set at this time and can find groups if i need loot. i just need to know the method for killing ... anything in PoN at this level. The ravens, sounds like i should try to aggro kite them and i have no idea how to kill the gargoyles or even when to try them ... any suggestions would be greatly appreciated =D
Schaeffer
04-03-2007, 12:52 AM
Originally posted by Gildnao@Apr 2 2007, 05:23 PM
whats the method used for PoN at level 51? i just dinged 51 from killing in Old Seb with a druid friend of mine but hes leaving town for a while so i need to find a place i can kill solo for good xp, money or drops are too big a deal for me, im set at this time and can find groups if i need loot. i just need to know the method for killing ... anything in PoN at this level. The ravens, sounds like i should try to aggro kite them and i have no idea how to kill the gargoyles or even when to try them ... any suggestions would be greatly appreciated =D
http://www.necrotalk.com/index.php?showtopic=7555
Check out the Leves of Power Sub-Topic, it's tailor made for level 51+
Lilnecro
04-03-2007, 01:37 AM
peope don't realize it, but one of the best zones to kill in to level up is Blightfire Moors, because the mobs go from about level 9 to level 43, i got my monk from level 12 to whatever level he is now there in about 1 day total play time with no PLing or being uberly twinked
Opake_DraGon
08-10-2008, 01:38 PM
can someone please fix the links (or repost them) from the guide because I keep getting sent to the main forum page?
GnekroeGnomicon
08-10-2008, 04:23 PM
Sadly most of the posts are probably lost in the ether without some massive searching and likely they are way, way, way out of date (note the post being 4.5 years old, links are broken as that was the old board). My suggestion is to look through the level range topics in this forum and you will see more current suggestions for soloing.
Drazzminius
08-10-2008, 09:42 PM
I did a "quick" search looking for the posts, and like Gnek said; they are either gone or WAY out of date.
In today's game, with all of the newer bells and whistles, you can solo 1-50 without leaving the TSS expansion (start in crescent reach and finish up around 50 in Blackfeather Roost). There are probably a lot of easier ways to do it, but that'll depend on your playstyle (which you won't really determine till around 40-50, anyway).
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