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Vermilya
04-03-2007, 03:02 AM
OK what is up with this?

Wizard focus 65% fire : Arcane Energeiac Silk Sleeves
Mage focus 65% fire : Phased Energeiac Silk Sleeves
Chantie focus 65% chromatic : Refined Energeiac Silk Sleeves
Necro - NO FOCUS : Corrupted Energeiac Silk Sleeves

Looking at this armour set, I think we seriously got the shaft here.

Lilnecro
04-03-2007, 03:56 AM
dont whine, they will give us a cold focus

Schaeffer
04-03-2007, 04:53 AM
That only works on divination

Meph
04-03-2007, 12:13 PM
Verm said thing is just before the end of beta nec sleeves had fire wich was removed few days before release.

Xislaben
04-03-2007, 02:41 PM
It may make more sense to look at all the known silk itemization for the class stuff to see more of a balance for the first 5 armor molds (no BP/Legs).

enc wrist - nothing
mag wrist - nothing
nec wrist - nothing
wiz wrist - nothing

enc gloves - nothing
mag gloves - nothing
nec gloves - 35% duration (also on tss pants, 65% pr on tss gloves...)
wiz gloves - 65% cr

enc feet - 30% beneficial haste
mag feet - nothing
nec feet - nothing
wiz feet - nothing

enc hat - 65% mr
mag hat - 65% mr
nec hat - 65% mr
wiz hat - 65% mr

enc sleeves - 60% chromatic
mag sleeves - 65% fr
nec sleeves - nothing
wiz sleeves - 65% fr

enc - 3 foci 'Refined Energeiac Silk'
mag - 2 foci 'Phased Energeiac Silk'
nec - 2 foci 'Corrupted Energeiac Silk'
wiz - 3 foci 'Arcane Energeiac Silk'

Considering these unlock in the order of events you beat in solteris, looks like wiz are making out well while we kinda get screwed. PR and Duration foci are on class tss armor, we see no FR here and don't get MR until the 4th event, and the hats start costing 250 phosphenes which means you have to win 2 clusters.

Other archetypes are kinda odd too:

brd - 1 foci arms 'Singing Energeiac Plate'
shd - 2 foci 'Tainted Energeiac Plate'
pal - 3 foci 'Sanguine Energeiac Plate'
clr - 2 foci 'Pristine Energeiac Plate'
war - 1 foci 'Rugged Energeiac Plate' (not counting BP, which had to be data mined)

bst - 3 foci 'Feral Energeiac Leather'
mnk - 1 foci 'Hardened Energeiac Leather'
dru - 4 foci 'Tacit Energeiac Leather' 65% fr, 30% bene haste, 65% mr, 65% cr

ber - 1 foci 'Brutal Energeiac Chain'
shm - 4 foci 'Mystical Energeiac Chain' 30% bene haste, 65% cr, 60% dr, 65% pr
rog - 1 foci 'Shrouded Energeiac Chain'
rng - 4 foci 'Gleaming Energeiac Chain' 30% bene haste, 65% heal, cleave 7, 65% fr

sauruman
04-05-2007, 12:45 AM
Jeb was bugging them about tbs armors. Some of the worst armors made to date. WTF is Merloc doing if anything?

Xislaben
04-05-2007, 05:03 AM
I may be wrong about the cluster thingy I said, seems progressive events have different types of clusters, so that may mean more phosphenes etc.

Meph
04-05-2007, 05:41 AM
The problem i see is that focuses that were rare in TSS keep staying rare in TBS, the only exception is magic (hat). Detri haste, fire, detri range are rare TSS focuses and they seem to stay rare in TBS too. Detrimental duration on gloves should be replaced with something else, not like it's hard to get in TSS (leggs, FC neck) or at least moved to another slot with fire added.

Oh yea i saw no other fire focus on any item at all in beta (they probably weren't finished tho). So if you get a chance grab Lethar 2 range or Grenwald cloak.


TBS armor - curret
- detri haste (chest)
- poison (leggs)
- detri duration (gloves)
- magic (hat)

TBS armor - before last adjustment in beta:

- fire (sleeves)
- magic (hat)
- disease (gloves)
- poison (leggs)
- detri haste (chest)

So what he did was, he removed fire and change disease foci to detrimental duration.

Jebasiz
04-05-2007, 01:23 PM
Originally posted by sauruman@Apr 4 2007, 07:45 PM
Jeb was bugging them about tbs armors. Some of the worst armors made to date. WTF is Merloc doing if anything?
I sent him a write up, specifically about fire and magic being on the armor. Along with det mana pres. It's like talking to a wall, or so it seems.

I don't know if this is extremely accurate (or to what extent he followed though with it) but he mentioned that only 40% of Solteris loot had foci. Damn near 100% of the energaic casual armor has foci... It seems pretty freaking lame.

Jebasiz
04-09-2007, 09:59 PM
WELL WELL WELL, after MUCH feedback and some correspondence from Merloc..I got this:

From: Merloc-DEV
To: jebasiz
Date: 04/09/2007 11:27:27
Subject: Re:some posts on TBS armor...

If I add Fire Focus to Solteris Necromancer Arms, would that make you happy?

in my inbox today. Of course I said "yes". Then emphasized that it's the community's feedback that I send him..not my own.

Perhaps an upgrade is inc!

Schaeffer
04-09-2007, 10:02 PM
And that's why we wub joo Jebbie!

Xislaben
04-09-2007, 10:16 PM
$

Too bad it's sleeves though, 5 events, but it's still a win!

Jebasiz
04-09-2007, 11:26 PM
From: Merloc-DEV
To: jebasiz
Date: 04/09/2007 15:35:35
Subject: Re:Re:Re:some posts on TBS armor...

Okay, if it makes you (Necromancers) happy, I'll change it to go out with the next patch.

Thanks for the feedback.

damballa
04-10-2007, 02:46 PM
I just don't get it. Sony comparatively gimps our class over 2 (arguably 3) expansions and then acts like they are doing us a favor by giving us a fire focus we should have always had available?
At one point I read how proud Sony was that in EQ you could build your character in so many ways that there would almost never be identical characters. By putting key foci on only one or 2 items knowing that most necros view themselves as a dps class seems a little counterproductive to that. I expect you will see very little variety in sleeves in the top 100 soon. If this continues in 2-3 more expansions the top necros will all be geared similar.

Is this there plan?
Is this the same with all classes or does it just hurt us the worst because we require so many different foci?

-Dam