Leach

[Dravlien]

The move leach does low damage, yes is does heal u too but i never hardly get hurt because i never melee

[Other1]

Necro hp taps (such as leach) are invaluable not because of melee damage but because of your lichs.

The higher in level you get your lich will transfer more hp to mana at a faster rate, thus your hp taps become very handy. Also, the HoT taps are more mana efficient than the straight dd lifetaps.

[Tybr]

Hmm...Leach is pointless...?

First: It mitigates the effect of your lich spells.
Second: You should be getting hit.
Third: Ignore me at your own peril.

[Amused]

Originally posted by Tybr@Dec 2 2003, 09:00 AM
Second: You should be getting hit.

Yeah... nice typo =P... unless... you mean... we SHOULD be getting hit. What an amusing thought (no pun intended). Don't worry about me, I'm tired, it 5 AM and I haven't taken my medication yet =P

~Amused Bydeadnewbs
27th Season Necromancer
Bertoxxulous Server

[Slitherclaw]

Early on I just let the fire beetles, large rats and other vermin hit me while I leached one to build up my defense. After that it becomes a bit difficult because things start hitting harder.

Slitherclaw

Xegony

50 Iksar Necromancer

[Slickmasterizzy]

don't tell yourself "ill never get hit" and fail to not max your defence... when you dot too early (yes it happens to everyone) and the mob is smacking on you its nice to not die in one or two hits... with leach it's easier to raise your defence skill because your gaining hp as your losing it (having the mob slowed by a shaman or enchanter friend first is always a plus) mind you... when your 55+ i doubt you will want to try this... but for the lower levels... 1-50 its a good idea.

[Slickmasterizzy]

level 8 we get vampiric embrace which adds a lifetap proc to our attacks... at level 8 this proc is laughable due to our low skills...low dex... but it gains about 1point of hp lifetap a level... so at level 50 im getting about 56 or so hp per proc... im not really a twink... i just grab a hos from a shammy and while fear kiting...or in a group with a good tank... i just start smacking away... it makes up for lich so i can save mana for my bigger spells instead of needing to heal myself

[Dravlien]

Ok thx everyone sorry i took so long to reply

Dravlien
13 Dark Elf Necromancer

[Mixylplix]

Never get hit? Man, how aer you able to NEVER out Agro someone? I mean it is a real challenge to HOLD BACK THE DOGS OF WAR that a Necro can unleash. I can out Agro an SK if not rel careful.

Even at level 50 I find that at times I end up tanking as some "wuss" caster manged to suck agro and can't take a hit. Give me a Vampiric Curse type tap and a repeated casting of the current lifetap and I find I can survive much abuse and "tank" the mob until the Melee's and Pets show up and finish it off.

Heck LICH is more dangerous to me that DB mobs. Talk about a frieght elevator to dead is you are not paying attention.....

As for Leach. What is does like 8 a tick or something right? Not going to loose sleep on that but it is a perfect balance against the Life for Mana for the same level.

When done right I can Vampire Curse a mob and heal a friend and never get more than 10% down while we fight. Healing may not be the speciality of a necro but if you are living at 100% all teh time and still lifetapping you are wasting life points that others can you.

[Vhampyre01]

Early on the ratio kinda sucks, and I remember lifetapping back my hp more than using the leach spell; but as you get higher in levels the efficiency of leech vs. tap becomes more noticable. Plus I always liked to lead off with a pact-heal on whoever has primary aggro and maybe spot heal another person if necessary, by then I am getting on down in hp to the point where my leech spell is REALLY doing its job. ...but lately, my role as a healer has been non-existent and its been mostly about doing dmg and crowd control.

In the early lvls though, everything is more subtle. The mana regen kinda sucks and so does the leach; but it gets better...much much much better. So much so that I cannot even stomach playing another caster class now, because the med-time drives me insane.

[Vavra]

I love this spell line, the other night I was the puller and healer for my group in DL I was using Vampiric curse to pull with and when I got back to group I cast shadow compact on the mt, then off I went to get another mob while they finished that one off, I was constantly between 85-100% health with with call of bones up as well. the mt was always 60-80% health if it got lower I healed a few rounds then went off pulling another mob.. it was lots of fun...

[Schaeffer]

This is the bloodline of the class. And yes it does work well with the heal over time series, but in higher levels, you need this just to counter the insane amount of hitpoints your Arch Lich sucks up to keep you pumped full of mana to do insane amounts of DPS.

[Mortakai]

From 26 to 30 I would sit in sol a with temperance use banshee aura and buff myself with everything but leatherskin including grim aura and vampiric embrace. I would pull with vampiric curse (or leach) and tank 3 or 4 goblins. At 27 the proc from vampiric embrace was doing roughly 50, add that to hitting for about 15 and 10 from banshee aura I was a pretty nasty mfing tank. Now going on adventures I would always melee and try to take some hits as to not gimp my defense, plus if you're using vampiric embrace that free 50 point lifetap is always nice

[Xelgadis]

Originally posted by Mixylplix@Dec 3 2003, 05:47 PM
Heck LICH is more dangerous to me that DB mobs. Talk about a frieght elevator to dead is you are not paying attention.....
Lich is dangerous? :blink: If I'm out killing (grouped or solo), and I'm not using Demi Lich, something is wrong... very wrong (or I'm expecting a long wait before the next mob for whatever reason; AFK(s), repops, etc.). The self-DoT of the Lich line of spells is easily managed with our Leech line of spells. 48HP/tick from Demi Lich is trivial when you consider that Vexing Mordinia is a 122HP leech, and has a faster cast time than Bond of Death, making it more useful while aggro kiting in the planes.

Bond of Death was a very useful spell to me, when I was at that level range using Lich. At that range, I was still fear kiting regularly, so the longer cast time was managable as I didn't have to worry about the mob catching up to me during the middle of my cast.

Only thing that annoys me is a cleric w/ an itchy CH finger who heals me right after I just Vexed a mob (even more annoying when they heal me after I've told them not to heal, unless I ask for one LOL).

[Schaeffer]

Originally posted by Xelgadis@Dec 8 2003, 12:40 AM
Only thing that annoys me is a cleric w/ an itchy CH finger who heals me right after I just Vexed a mob (even more annoying when they heal me after I've told them not to heal, unless I ask for one LOL).
No Kidding, and then they ask for a twitch, Worry about the tank, leave us alone unless we getting pounded on, we can handle it, it's what we do...

[Neante]

With this spell line.... The necro becomes a health battery... You can give others in your group health, while taking in health, while sacrificing health for mana... This line is what makes us a GOD. It is a very mana efficient way to restore one's health while enabling us to be a useful grouping class. I know alot of peeps think that a necro is useless in a group... I beg the differ, A good necro can deal enormous damage... keep everyones health topped off between battles... and still regenerate mana at superhuman speeds!

use it! use it! use it!