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    I am level 90, with EM5 pet focus, with mage gear my Pet only does about 700 DPS. I have been parsing lately and am trying to get the pet DPS up, 700 is almost not worth it, to deal with the pet. This is with my box Bard, not sure if Bard stuff affects pets, but.

    2150 ish AA, and am getting ready to cap out some casting subtley, and silent casting. After that i want to get my resists up, and CS and CA to about 20 ish level.

    Question is, if i start putting alot of AA into the pet offensive, what can i expect DPS wise? is it worth while?

    Link to my EQplayers profile, its reasonably current: http://eqplayers.station.sony.com/ch...d=545461225363

    I guess this is a dual question, Pet and AA. Starting to get to the point where i am not sure what to train in DPS wise. So working on survialbility now i guess.

    Thanks in advance, Sc.

  • #2
    Maybe someone who has parsed the differences between with and without all the pet DPS can chime in, what I can tell you, from what it seems to me (I just started parsing as well, so I have no clue what the pet DPS used to be, before I had a number of AAs), the pet DPS AAs do not really make that big a difference. I started getting the pet offensive AAs sporadically as I was getting a number of other AAs finished. If you use the swarm pet spells often, it might make a bigger difference. That said, I am still working on the pet AAs, as well as finishing out Destructive Fury to get even a little more DPS. Don't expect a lot of DPS from the pet offensive AAs, they get really expensive, for just a tiny bit of DPS added. Just my perceived opinion.

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    • #3
      I don't know about others, but I never use the dps pet. You only get a real dps boost if you take time and effort to put it behind a mob, and it is fairly weak when has to tank. I always use the tank pet since if I get an add or the tank dies it can last long enough to finish the mob. I do have all the pet AA and have noticed alot of improvement inthe pet with them, but I always get the defensive ones first. The dps boost from 87 to 90 pet, for me at least, is too small to lose the greater use of the tank pet.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Aiyee View Post
        I don't know about others, but I never use the dps pet. You only get a real dps boost if you take time and effort to put it behind a mob, and it is fairly weak when has to tank. I always use the tank pet since if I get an add or the tank dies it can last long enough to finish the mob. I do have all the pet AA and have noticed alot of improvement inthe pet with them, but I always get the defensive ones first. The dps boost from 87 to 90 pet, for me at least, is too small to lose the greater use of the tank pet.
        Maybe I'm not fighting mobs at the high-end, and so I've not experienced this- but, with EM5, my 80 rogue pet in full spectral armour with a few pieces of that mage jewelry, has never not had time to either FD or allow me to trade aggro. In fact, he rarely even gets in a bad position when he gets stuck tanking a bit. *shrug*

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        • #5
          Bards songs do effect pets, but only if you have the Pet Affinity AA.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Aiyee View Post
            I don't know about others, but I never use the dps pet. You only get a real dps boost if you take time and effort to put it behind a mob, and it is fairly weak when has to tank. I always use the tank pet since if I get an add or the tank dies it can last long enough to finish the mob. I do have all the pet AA and have noticed alot of improvement inthe pet with them, but I always get the defensive ones first. The dps boost from 87 to 90 pet, for me at least, is too small to lose the greater use of the tank pet.

            Like you, I typically use the warrior pet... I have recently tried the rogue pet and was amazed at the amount of damage it can dish out though.. Pet placement only takes a quick click of the AA, and the rogue pet can add around 400 DPS more than the warrior pet. I still like the warrior pet, since I do like to pet tank stuff sometimes... but the rogue pet does add more DPS if you never have it tanking stuff. It's not a huge difference, but it is noticeable.

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            • #7
              I've done plenty of parsing of the pet aa, and the difference between no aa and max pet aa tends to be 10-15% pet dps increase. Considering how low pet dps is as base, the increase is...yes, that low.

              However, it is a multiplicative investment; the percentage increase is bigger with pet gear, buffs, shaman procs, etc. On that note, the difference in pet DPS from naked to full mage gear is far, far, far more dramatic & powerful of an increase than a no-aa pet v.s max-aa pet.

              So while I would strongly encourage every necro to first max out their personal DPS investment options - they are still a dps investment, however slight.
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              • #8
                As you can see, I havent really paid much attention to pet aa's. Usually on raids I dont even bother, sometimes I do if the event calls for no spell casting, otherwise I dont waste my time.

                Grouping however is different. If you have a shaman, having a pet ( with or without aa's) is add'd dps. Using the placement aa is very easy to do ( can do it between casts ) and as long as the tank doesnt constantly turn the mob, its worth it.

                I use swarm pets alot , mostly because they stun quite a bit, and that always helps no matter what situation the group is in. I usually concentrate on swarm pets more when theres an add or two in camp, comes in real handy.

                If youre looking for guidance, follow Scrat's advice, once you got the important ones done, its worth investing in your pet. Im sure there's a proper order in which you should purchase them, though I think that order is contingent on your type of game play and what you use your pet mostly for.

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                • #9
                  I know another necro, he does the same thing. Dont use a pet, but uses swarm pets alot, and other tools.

                  I may go that route for the time being. Just max them out, and not worry with the AAs to spend on pet stuff.

                  Although a pet in a bag to Tank T1 named would be nice. When i stumble on one without my group with me.

                  Still alot of AAs i need, surviability, and resists wise, along with some others. !0 to 15% DPS boost on the pet DPS dont seem worth it right now.

                  Thanks, Sc.

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                  • #10
                    If 700 dps isn't worth a little bit of hassle to you, you might have chosen the wrong class... just saying...

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                    • #11
                      Is that 700 DPS overall, or just on the pet?

                      Hell my pet only does 700 dps now, so he will jump to 1500 dps?

                      Its not thats it not worth it, just at this time i may be more inclined to work on some other things. I need to get some defensives in order, and my resists arnt good, not where i want em.

                      Plus all the other utility stuff, silent casting, subtley blah blah.

                      Although i love to be the DPS hog in my group LOL. So i may need to think about that LOL. Plus our Rogue is catching me fast.

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                      • #12
                        i use rog pet alot, and with EM8 all the offensive AAs and mage weps im seeing closer to 900 dps, plus i have noticed lately that the rog pet is BS'n from the front also

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